Metallica (Premium)
Stern, 2013I am having an issue with my Snake on Metallica. For some reason the jaw will not shut all the time. Having difficulty getting it to close even in test.
Also not sure if the lower lip is suppose to be above the playfield when open. Here is a pic of my snake when open.
Is this the normal position?
Also anyone else having issues with it closing?
Tom.
The big annoyance is the jaw not closing. I can hear it trying to close but it stays open. Happens about 50% of the time (not closing).
I took the mech off. It was hard to remove the head from the playfield as it is a tight fit. There is an adjustment for the latch/latch coil. Tightened the screw a bit and no more problem with the jaw not closing. Just though I would share in case someone had a similar problem.
Mine also seemed too high from the factory & with the help of a fellow pinsider I was able to adjust it to what seems a better level. I would get many rejected shots to the snake before the adjustment & even air balls caused from the Snakes Lower Jaw being a little too high.
Quoted from smassa:Mine also seemed too high from the factory & with the help of a fellow pinsider I was able to adjust it to what seems a better level.
What did you do to lower it? Do you notice the ball getting in there a bit easier now?
Quoted from Rarehero:What did you do to lower it? Do you notice the ball getting in there a bit easier now?
Much easier.....KME was over here when I unboxed it & a couple days later after I adjusted it & we both could tell what a huge difference it made.
Quoted from Rarehero:What did you do to lower it? Do you notice the ball getting in there a bit easier now?
Cool...so what's the trick?
Quoted from Rarehero:Cool...so what's the trick?
Its a secret only members of the "Fan Club" are allowed to share......(;
Too hard to explain now ill try n show you later when I get back from the freak show also know as Comicon.
Quoted from Rarehero:Cool...so what's the trick?
Umm yeah. Not cool to show such a sweet tweak and walk off... 
Quoted from Jackontherocks:I did notice this when playing it.
mine is OK
I'm guessing if you were to take it apart like smassa did, the secret would be revealed. Either that or you would end up with a bunch of snake pieces. 
Quoted from o-din:I'm guessing if you were to take it apart like smassa did, the secret would be revealed. Either that or you would end up with a bunch of snake pieces.
Yeah... i'm a bit concerned about the latter result. I don't mind tearing into my old machines, but I'd like to have goals in mind for NIB stuff heh
Quoted from TomGWI:I am having an issue with my Snake on Metallica. For some reason the jaw will not shut all the time. Having difficulty getting it to close even in test.
Also not sure if the lower lip is suppose to be above the playfield when open. Here is a pic of my snake when open.
Is this the normal position?
Also anyone else having issues with it closing?
Tom.
Have you tried turning your pinball machine right-side up?
Quoted from grh450:mine is OK
Just checking and appeared to be a hard shot to always hit and stay in.
Quoted from o-din:I'm guessing if you were to take it apart like smassa did, the secret would be revealed. Either that or you would end up with a bunch of snake pieces.
Quoted from PinballHelp:Have you tried turning your pinball machine right-side up?
Listen boys. I have had that mech out 3 times fixing the closing mech. I talked to Stern tech support. They told me no way to adjust the lower jaw.
Wouldn't hurt to share the info with fellow pinsiders.
I think the way is to lower the entire mechanism with some spacers washers under the playfield. Mine is "high" but works well.
Quoted from PinballHelp:Have you tried turning your pinball machine right-side up?
You win one internet. Haha
Quoted from Mando:I think the way is to lower the entire mechanism with some spacers washers under the playfield. Mine is "high" but works well.
Winner Winner chicken dinner!!!!
Quoted from Mando:I think the way is to lower the entire mechanism with some spacers washers under the playfield. Mine is "high" but works well.
Quoted from smassa:Winner Winner chicken dinner!!!!
That was a hard one to figure out. lol
Quoted from smassa:Too hard to explain now ill try n show you later when I get back from the freak show also know as Comicon.
Quoted from smassa:mandelbloom said:
I think the way is to lower the entire mechanism with some spacers washers under the playfield. Mine is "high" but works well.
Winner Winner chicken dinner!!!!
That WAS hard to explain for sure. 
Keep in mind there may be a reason its that high? Smassa you have any balls get stuck when its lowered. My Snake seems pretty receptive even with two rows of scales above the playfield.
Quoted from rockrand:I have tested with my hand holding down the jaw a little and
Balls can get stuck between the protector and lower jaw
You have it lowered too much then.....If you look at the pic I posted there isnt enough room for the ball to get stuck there.
I noticed there is a screw on the lower jaw, might that be a way to adjust the height? Adding spacers might be okay too I guess.
Quoted from flashburn:I noticed there is a screw on the lower jaw, might that be a way to adjust the height? Adding spacers might be okay too I guess.
That Screw did nothing to lower the jaw. I tried messing with the adjustment screw & it didnt work. Thats when I got a email from someone about how they fixed theirs by using washers to slightly lower the jaw. I went from about 60-70% rejected shots to only around 10-15%. And all the rejected shots are from the tight nature of the scoop not the lower Jaw being too high.
Quoted from smassa:Thats when I got a email from someone about how they fixed theirs by using washers to slightly lower the jaw.
I hope you're not expecting to collect royalties for this information. 
Quoted from Mando:I think the way is to lower the entire mechanism with some spacers washers under the playfield. Mine is "high" but works well.
Quoted from smassa:Winner Winner chicken dinner!!!!
See that wasn't so hard. Thanks.
Quoted from smassa:Its a secret only members of the "Fan Club" are allowed to share......(;
Too hard to explain now ill try n show you later when I get back from the freak show also know as Comicon.
You have a hard time explaining how to put some washers under the mech?
Quoted from TomGWI:See that wasn't so hard. Thanks.
You have a hard time explaining how to put some washers under the mech?
Its not explaining it but its more that you only want to put them under certain screws....Not the entire snake mech. I was trying to wait till I got home to be able to show pic's of which ones to put them under. But if you dont want to wait have at it. Its easily reversed.
Quoted from smassa:Its not explaining it but its more that you only want to put them under certain screws....Not the entire snake mech. I was trying to wait till I got home to be able to show pic's of which ones to put them under. But if you dont want to wait have at it. Its easily reversed.
Gotcha. I will wait. Have fun at ComicCon.
Quoted from o-din:I hope you're not expecting to collect royalties for this information.
Just wanted to wait to show which ones to put washers on. Dont want anyone blaming me if they screw up their scoop by doing it wrong.
what type of screws hold this mech to the playfield?
If its the hex cap wood screws, is there any risk about stripping out the holes with not enough threads engaged? Or are the amount of spacers so small that longer screws would be overkill?
Quoted from Purpledrilmonkey:what type of screws hold this mech to the playfield?
If its the hex cap wood screws, is there any risk about stripping out the holes with not enough threads engaged? Or are the amount of spacers so small that longer screws would be overkill?
Wood screws hold it in place an yes i went to a slightly longer screw for a couple of the holes that seemed to need it to hold the scoop securely in place.
Quoted from smassa:Just wanted to wait to show which ones to put washers on. Dont want anyone blaming me if they screw up their scoop by doing it wrong.
Yeah I was looking at it and wondering since the way the bracket is shaped, it has a lot of screws holding it on, it looked like you might only need to put washers on the front two?
Quoted from flashburn:Yeah I was looking at it and wondering since the way the bracket is shaped, it has a lot of screws holding it on, it looked like you might only need to put washers on the front two?
No there are 4 screws that need to have washers
Quoted from smassa:No there are 4 screws that need to have washers
Gotcha, hook us up with a pic when you get a chance.
Quoted from flashburn:Gotcha, hook us up with a pic when you get a chance.
Will do....will try n post tonite.
Quoted from smassa:Will do....will try n post tonite.
What ever happened with this?
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