I am going to be joining the club soon also looks like. I was looking at BM66, MMR, AFMR, and GOTG. BM66 and GOTG just aren’t doing it for me , they arent bad games but not what i want yet. The remakes im kind of afraid to buy because of possible quality issues and their price tags are too high as well. I was kinda bummed because i was wanting a new game and MET popped into my head and i was like damn this game is a real winner and they are getting ready to stop making them probably. I figure i better get one while i can!

P.S. oh yeah and Gryszzz told me it rocks and that i will love it so thats good enough for me! In Gryszzz we trust!

The Pro is killer. I like everything about the Premium except for the hammer. Its just too big and i gotta believe that it blocks your view of a couple of shots. It also seems to have some problems from what ive read. Id go Premium if the hammer wasnt part of the package. I know alot of people will disagree with me but i just dont like it at all.

I have been watching alot of video on the premium and i really like the light show and the spinners....the hammer not so much. I wanna talk about the hammer for a minute though. I have heard that the hammer is almost always tore up and not working on Metallica. Is that true and if it is why isnt it reliable?

How many plays is on your game so far?

Well that sounds encouraging. I cant wait to hear from other Premium /LE owners. Hopefully they have the same story.

Ok guys done deal and my Monsters Premium will be on its way tomorrow! Do i have to wait until i get the game set up before i can add it to my pinside collection page or can i just do it now? To say that i am PUMPED would be a huge understatement right now! I kinda feel like i just got a new girlfriend or something.

Thanks for all of the tips I appreciate it. Im really excited big time. I went to a friends house today and played his pro model and loved it, its really a great shooting game. Im sure that i would have probably been just as happy with the pro model but this might be my last NIB game and i decided to go all out on it. The light show and the spinners is the two extra that really made me go Premium. Hopefully i will like the hammer alot and that will be a nice added bonus for me. I can tell that this game is going to be a keeper already. I ordered my sparky protector and now i got to order my cliffy set. Im hoping the sparky protector gets here by Thursday because I could tell from my friends pro that sparky causes major air balls. His has the protector and i still got some air balls off of him.

Oh ok, so it comes with a protector from the factory then? Maybe he had the factory protector and thats why i was seeing air balls.

The game i played today the ball jumped up in the air pretty good a few times. It even jumped on the right return ramp a couple of times. I dont even understand how it was doing that with the protector on there honestly. The game was a complete blast to play though i will say that. I cant wait to sink my teeth into it and learn more about it!

Well i hope you are right RoostKing because my new Premium will be on its way tomorrow!

You have no idea how bad the wait is killing me.

You know i will! A color dmd or lcd is a must also for this game. Is it the LCD that looks the best? If so how much and where can i get one at?

Anyone know why they changed from wood to metal?

Oh my God i knew I shouldn’t have got the Premium model!!

Just kidding, i cant wait actually!!

So can someone explain the left orbit reject problem to me? I noticed the machine that i played the other day did that a couple of times but i just figured it was suppose to do that. Is this a big problem or is it something that rarely happens? Also does it happen to all games and why does it happen?

Its going to arrive tomorrow between 10am and 2pm. All i know is that effin delivery truck better not :lalala:break down or some stupid shit like that!

Eddie Vedder is one Bad Azz MF Gryszzz. People don’t realize what a great talent he is. Here is my most favorite performance by him, this is epic and i never get tired of watching this video!

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Thats some good music there now. Rock and Roll is not nearly as good as it used to be.

That’s awesome and so is your collection of games! The purple powder coat looks fantastic as well.

The party is about to begin folks!!

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Im in and couldn't be happier! Holy shit is this game great!

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Man what a night tonight was! I played the hell out of my new game and im so glad that i ended up going with this game. No way I could have picked a better game. I know this is the honeymoon stage but this game is so good that its always going to feel like the honeymoon stage. Damn, what a killer game! I did have a pop bumper that kept screwing up and i had to work on that a good while until i figured out how i needed to adjust it but its all good now im 99% sure.

Oh yeah, and the Hammer that almost kept me from buying the Premium because I didn’t like it turned out to be Bad Ass! I love it!

I havent got a sub yet but i can imagine how cool the hammer would sound when it smashes the ball through the playfield.

I put a shaker on it but not a sub yet. The shaker is definitely nice with MET.

Oh yeah i never even thought about that but i bet that is cool! I love the drum sounding spinners. This game is just flat out good!

So what is considered to be a good score on this game? My very first game was my best game at 98 million. I haven’t done so well since because i cant stop watching the animations on the dmd lol.

I got a long way to go then.......i will get there though eventually! I love this game even more than TWD, its got so many cool features and shots that its unreal. My only gripe is that damn left orbit reject. Ive played around with the slope and the leveling left to right and no matter what i am getting damn near 100% rejects. That sucks because i like when it drops down into the pops.

Lol i feel your pain trust me.

Where can i get the metal post and how hard is it to install?

Wonder why it didnt change it when you first put it in? Could you please provide me a link for that?

Thanks for the info, i didnt even know that key post feature was there lol. I will get that ordered and hopefully it helps some.

Metal post is ordered and will be on its way soon! I really hope it helps with the left orbit rejects, that would be awesome. This is my most favorite game in my lineup now and yes that includes TWD even. I cant get enough of this game!

That sucks man sorry to hear about that. I assume you are working with Chaz on it right? He will figure it out i bet in time. When i power my game off i hear a beep like you would hear when the game is in switch test mode, is that normal?

I hope the post helps for sure. I havent got a jack fuckin pot yet lol. I hope i do though one day! Color lcd is a must for me. I think the lcd is the one that looks the smoothest and most colorful right?

Call Chaz at Stern and i bet he can help you. I don't know the number right off hand but maybe someone can post it.

Just an update, i changed out the plastic post in the left orbit and put a metal one in its place and so far not one single left orbit reject so thank you guys very much that posted about this! One thing im kind of scratching my head on though is the metal post was sticking up above the playfield a tad higher than the plastic post did and the ball was getting stuck and wouldnt roll over it when it would go down. I didnt really measure the two posts but at a quick glance i thought they were exactly the same size. I had to adjust the post and lower it a little after i put the new post in. I dont know if i didnt put it back together exactly right or what? Any thoughts on this?

I would say that it is pretty critical that the post be perfectly flush with the playfield though or the ball could damage the playfield where the hole is that the post pops up through eventually. Anyways, i totally recommend every MET owner to do this because it absolutely 100% fixed my left orbit rejects and the game now plays like it was designed to play. I only played 4 or 5 games but so far not one single reject and i nailed the orbit hard on several shots.

Thank you, i really love this game and it has exceeded my expectations for sure. Im not really going to say its better than TWD yet because I realize that im in the honeymoon stage, but I honestly believe that i am going to end up liking MET over TWD when its all said and done.......time will tell.

I think as far as my favorite multiball goes, I’d have to pick cross multiball because i love the inline drop targets. I have got the lady justice from the Metallica ramps and ive also got to the mode that you can select one of four modes a couple of times but i had any success at it yet. I think you get that after completing all four multiballs right? What is the crank it up mode and how do i get there?

Oh ok cool, thanks alot for clarifying that I appreciate it. I really like the CIU mode so far but i just need to do better at it. Is there any one of those modes that i should pick or are they all about the same score wise?

Just played a few more games and i can definitely confirm that the metal post makes a HUGE difference. I have yet to have a left orbit reject. Im sure its still possible for it to happen but its not going to happen very often I guarantee it.

Lol i feel your pain RoostKing!

Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you.

The post stops the ball and lets it drop into the pops Gryszzz. If you havent done so yet buy the metal post and install it so the game will work the way it should. Ive had only 1 left orbit reject aince installing the metal post. Best 10 bucks MET owners can spend!

Ive put quite a few plays on my game now and i think im thru the honeymoon stage for the most part, and i gotta say that this game is just as great right now as it was the first day that i got it! Pinball just doesn't get much better than MET.

That looks great. Can you post a link for it?

Im confused on this as well. I want the one that has the brightest colors and if im not mistaken that is the LCD i think?

Is the LCD display easy to install?

Yes i want the one that looks smooth, not the one where you see all of the dots.

Nothing worse than getting your balls magnatized.

Yeah if the game is used fo ahead and replace them because you don't know how long the old balls have been in there.

Still loving my new MET, so glad that i got this game! Its an absolute keeper for life.

Congrats! You definitely won't regret it.

Think about this guys. He's getting MET and IMDN at the same time. Life just doesnt get much better than that now lol. He will be like a little 5 year old kid bouncing from game to game. How the heck would you know which one to even play??? I am predicting a week without sleep for Pinnyheadhead this week lol.

Congrats on your soon to be new game. You are going to love it!

Just got through with a late nite session of MET, i love this damn game!!!

I have TWD and MET both and they are both epic games that I'll never sell, not by choice anyways. TWD is hard AF and frustrating but its a great great game that keeps you coming back for more. MET is much easier as far as keeping the ball in play and its far less frustrating. Its still a game that will challenge you but i have to say that its more relaxing and less frustrating. With that being said, it would be my guess that a really skilled player would choose TWD just because it presents such a challenge.

Ive never got to the end of the line and from what i hear its very difficult so i probably never will. There are still the crank it up modes that are easy to get to and loads of fun in MET. Just by hearing you talk, i would say that you would probably enjoy MET more than TWD. Dont forget about Iron Maiden also, that game is epic as well.

I just recently got a MET Premium and i absolutely love it. I couldn't decide between the Premium and the Pro but i went with the Premium and glad i did because i like the soinners, light show, and the hammer, which i didn't really think i would like but its a cool toy. If money is a little bit of an object though, go Pro and don't look back because MET is a very strong Pro. MET has great artwork, great rules, and absolutely a killer playfield design. Its an amazing game man for real, so much fun.

This will fix 99.9999% of all left orbit rejects.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/metallica-owners-thread/page/46#post-2277072

http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=catalog&mode=search&search_in=all&search_str=A-17986

I just set mine up where the little bubble level thing from the factory says to. Thats abiut 6.5-6.7 degrees i believe

Yep you are correct and i dont see how or why it fixes it either but it 100% does and it makes the game alot more fun! Its an easy fix but take pictures before you take it apart just in case you forget how it goes back together. I also had to adjust the new metal rod a little after i installed it because it was sitting up above the playfield a tad. Not sure why because i think its the same size as the old one but i really didnt check them when i had them both in my hand before installing the metal one. Maybe i didn't put it back together exactly the same way or something, im not really sure lol. All i know is it works and im glad that i listened to the guys in this thread and did it.

Im almost thinking about doing the same thing. I do love shakers but i dont think i will miss it much if i turn it off. I dont like how much it shakes when the hammer smashes the ball into the coffin. I have shakers in all my games except AS and truthfully it doesn't bother me at all not having one.

I also know that it supposedly doesn't tone down the vibration when you change the settings but i will say this, my GB was shaking way too much when it went into storage facility multiball and i set it to minimal use and it doesn't shake as violently now. It definitely changed how long it shakes ir something. I may try turning it down on MET and see what happens. If it doesnt help i think I'll just disable it. Its not worth shaking my game apart.

I have a really hard time believing that since my game went from about 90% left orbit rejects with the plastic post to 0% rejects with the metal post from pinball life. Since i installed the metal post ive had maybe 2 rejects in 100 plus games. Thats not 0% but its so damn close to 0 that im just gonna call it 0%

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fixing-led-bulbs-flashers-that-fall-out-of-spotlights

Vireland gets all the credit because hes the one who posted the fix. I just remembered he did it and passed it on to you. I have a spotlight that keeps losing its bulb also and i will be doing the same fix in a day or two. Vireland is the man!

Stuff like this is the reason i hate snakes!

Yep this game is awesome for sure! I just recently got one but im out of the honeymoon phase, but i still feel like im on my honeymoon with it. Pinball doesn't get any better than MET really.

MET is a fun game isnt it? I haven't been getting serious with it but i need to bear down and give it my all. Ive mostly been working on mine lately. Got it all done though except i need to realign the auto plunger and then she'll be in tip top shape!

Looks amazing. Easy install?

Good choice!

Congrats on your new game!! You probably couldn't have picked a better game than MET, it is awesome in every way.....enjoy!

Nothing quite like that new pinball machine smell is there?

Im no expert pinball repair guy and im also not at home to look at my game but im thinking maybe that switch at the top of the right orbit is what triggers that post probably. Check and see if that switch is working or not. If its not then there is your problem and it probably just needs adjusting. Im sure its something simple so dont let it worry you too much. Put the game in test mode and see if that switch is working when you roll a ball over it.

Mine started doing the same thing and the opto sensor was off that is in front of Sparky. I ended up having to bend the metal tab a little that holds the opto sensor. The bad thing about it is, that its hard to see and get to because of the left ramp and other things being in the way. I ended up taking the left ramp off of the game and the plastics around Sparky so i could see what i needed to do better. It actually wasnt that big of a job but after about three failed attempts of trying to get it adjusted I said F it and took the ramp off so i could have some room to work and so that i could see what to do.

I was getting sparky hits just by flipping the flippers and yes it does ruin the gameplay for sure. Maybe someone else can Tell you a better way to fix this problem but thats how i fixed mine. If you look in front of Sparky you will see where the opto sensor shines from one side to the other. There will be a round red circle of light that is supposed to shine into the hole on the opposite side of the opto and mine was way off and barely shining into that hole. I suspect that this may be your problem also. Its also possible that the switch that sits between Sparkys legs may be too close together and registering way to easy. If thats the case you will need to gap that switch open a little more. Check that switch first and then the opto. If the opto is off center though i would say that is your problem. Good luck!

Well i need to edit this comment a little lol. My MET started the false Sparky hits again so i tore into the game one more time. I earlier stated that you need to take the left ramp off to bend the bracket a little so you can get the opto aligned better. You can see the opto light move when you lightly move the rail so you will know which way that you need to bend the rail a little. You probably can just take the plastics off around sparky and take a pair of needle nose pliers and grab ahold of the rail that holds the opto and bend it a little without removing any ramps so that is nice.

Also the first thing that you can do is to unplug the opto connectors under the playfield and plug them back in to make sure that they are making a good connection. The little opto plugs are typically kind of loose and can come unplugged or become loose easily.

Im not a expert pinball repair guy so i kinda learn as i go and get a little better the more i work on these games. At any rate i was just trying to help Creepy Tom with the opto problem and now i kinda feel bad because tonight i found an easier way so im hoping that he reads this before working on his game. This game has been a huge PIA so far compared to my other new Sterns.

The hammer on the premium is not a negative whatsoever and the rising grave market is cool as hell, as are the spinners and the light show that comes on the Premium/LE models. Its all good, no negatives at all.

Oh man i love the rising cross! Everytime i see is come up through the playfield im like YEEEAH BABY!!! It never gets old to me ever!!

Wow your game looks awesome, love the art blades or whatever you call them on the sides inside the cabinet. The whole game looks great!

The Mystery scoop is super easy, even DaveH could do it i bet.

Same here, i changed to a metal post and it eliminated the problem totally.

I dont have too many drains from Sparky doesn't seem like. Its the coffin shot that gets me most of the time.

I love it when he says " Fry that Mother F*cker!" I wish i could make it say that every time.

Yep for sure lol. MET is an awesome game!

Not many i bet and surely not me!

I feel your pain brother!

This will fix your problem i guarantee it.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/metallica-owners-thread/page/46#post-2277072

MET has it all honestly. Its a great shooting game with tons of flow and i love the inline drop targets. I wish more games had them. It also has great animations and toys and art and the crank it up modes are awesome. Just a great great game any way you look at it.

I would be finding out where that screw is. Did it fall into your ball trough maybe?

https://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=4899

Just wondering where do most of you guys have your outlane posts set at? Mine is in the middle hole from the factory and that left side drain is a mother effer! Should i move them down or "play better" as Steve Ritchie would say?

Im considering doing that, i just hate to change the factory settings because if i do and get a really good score i wont feel like it is legit. Not that anyone cares but its just a personal thing with me i guess. I did move them in on GB and i dont feel bad at all about it because that game is just terribly brutal and it needed some help to become more fun. Noobs always want to play GB but once they see how big of a drain monster the game is they just turn their nose up at it. Moving the posts didnt make a huge difference but it was enough that it makes the game a little better. Its still a bitch though.

Maybe i should talk to that guy and see if he can make me not feel so guilty about moving them.

No thats not normal and i dont think the balls are getting magnatized that quickly either. Call Chaz at Stern and see what he says.

I dont think they've had the super shiny ones for a good while but ive never had a problem with them before when ive bought them in the past. I change them once a year.

I have bought super shiny's from pinball life. A couple years ago maybe i dont know? Ive bought them from Scott as well. Not disputing your claim, just telling you ive never had any problems out if them.

Well at least you wont have to worry about hitting it and the ball draining now.

Last ones i got were the ones they are selling now and they seem fine also. Im not bothered at all that they arent super shiny. Am i the only one that this doesn't bother? Lol

It’s probably just the bulb not making good contact. Wiggle the bulb and see if it goes out. Here is a fix for bulbs that fall out of the spotlights and bulbs maybe that arent making good dontact. You could try pulling the bulb out and pulling the little metal connectors out a little and then putting the bulb back in also.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fixing-led-bulbs-flashers-that-fall-out-of-spotlights

It really is awesome. My only question is, why do i always have to choke when i get to the crank it up modes??? So frustrating....

Glad i scored a MET before they stopped making them!

Everything has a price.......

That is a incredible score, wow!

I thought ball barons were the best? Ive always used Pinball Life balls and have never had a problem yet with them, guess i will just stick with those.

Yep that is what you want right there. Makes a big difference.