Met Pro delivery scheduled for 1:30pm today. I have no idea how I will get through the rest of the day knowing it is sitting at home. I will post pictures once unboxed.

One question I have is what is the best way to plug in an external sub? I plan on buying a Polk 10" at some point but want to make sure I purchase all cables and associated hardware when I purchase the sub.

And it's here. Damn the game is addicting. The one more game feeling had me playing until 1:30am this morning. What an amazing game. Only had to adjust the snake and scoop switch. It made friends quickly.

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I know this has probably been answered before, but I tried to search for it and found nothing. Let me preface this with I plan to purchase the pinnovaters connection kit, but how do I use the speaker wire to hook up an external sub. The Polk sub has a hookup for left and right speaker which would be a total of 4 wires.

So which one:
1. Use one speaker cable (2 wires, red and silver) and only plug into the left OR the right input in the sub
2. Use 2 speaker cable (4 wires) two silvers on one of the existing sub connection and two reds on the other existing sub connection. Then connect 1 speaker cable to the left input and the other to the right input on the sub

I'm not sure anyone is going to understand what I'm trying to say.

I'm actually really excited for you as I just bought a pro and love it. I will be putting a few games on it this weekend as well. Enjoy and welcome to Pinside.

Congrats. I have a pro so I don't know about a premium, but I put all cliffys on including the magnet protectors, the metal post in the back, and an external sub. Once the funds recover a bit I will be installing a color DMD.

Just had my first good game, 120,599,930. It was amazing. Multiballs everywhere (that doesn't sound right). 2 crank it ups. What a great game this is. I know I just bought it a week and a half ago, but I've put in about 260 games and I still love it. I guess I'm not saying anything you all don't know as this is the Metallica club, just need to get it out. Carry on.

I sometimes do get rejected from the mystery scope when I think it's a direct shot, but I installed the protector day one so I have nothing to compare it too.

I had the same result after changing the post to metal. I think I am slightly steeper than I should be, but the game plays so well it doesn't bother me enough to level it again.

Honestly, I just bought the 10" Polk sub. Set it up using alligator clips and left the stock speakers in the game. It sounds amazing.

I didn't change much. I think the bass volume for the sub is just over halfway. I did change the music volume in the game settings, but only by one or two spots. Nothing drastic. When adjusting my sub the biggest thing to me was to hear the bass, but not wash out the music with to much bass.

I believe hitting the target acts as “more hits” to the opti. For example one hit to the target = 3 triggers of opto.

I know it doesn't give you a letter towards completing "SNAKE", but if the snake is not lit does a hit count towards lighting the insert for CIU?

I believe this is the typical price given to someone that calls the distributor for pricing.

it was rick something that made them.

Edit: Rickwh not sure if he still has any.
They are only $7 on pinbits. That's where I got mine.

Installing the metal post on my Met only slightly improved the rejection. I didn't notice a huge difference. I also have moved my machine a couple of times and double checked the level. My machine might be a little more than 6.5, but only around 7 degrees I would say.

Yeah I bought mine in a hurry back in June because they weren't going to make them anymore. Definitely do not regret my decision though.

This is also how my Pro works. Seems random. Although I have played a Premium on location that always lit the left most shot.

Nevermind I see it.

I did the same thing.

I’ve been having an intermittent problem with the trough switches. A couple times a ball would drain and would not be recognized so another doesn’t exit into the shooter lane. After a few ball searches the ball/round will end and a new ball will eject for the next ball/round. I went to switch test and ejected balls while watching the test screen. After a number of ejects I noticed at one point non of the switches registered. I then put the ball in the drain and they all registered again. I adjusted the switches and it seems to work better, but it did happen again.

So getting to the question, what could cause all the switches not register at one point or could it just be I need to tweak the switches some more?

I checked the balls and they are fine. They were installed about a month ago and are carbon. The trough looks ok, but I’ll double check. The game is only about 8-9 months old.

I’ll do this. Is the “z” connector under the playfield next to the trough?

Perfect thank you. I’ll update in about a week after I give it a good test.

So, although I checked the magnatism I apparently didn’t do a good job at it. After further inspection this morning I could see the balls weren’t moving all the way down the trough after the first ball was ejected. I took the balls out and put them on a table. I touched one ball to another and pulled it on the table. The second ball stayed attached to the ball I was pulling. This only happened for one of the balls, but it was enough to have a problem. Thank you for all the help. Great community.

I just had to replace the balls in my MET because one of them became magnetized and they would get hung up in the trough. It does happen. The balls that were in my MET were only a few months old.

What was your scores for those games?

I just had my best game at 283 mill and I felt good about it. Your score must have been 3-4 times that.

Metallica is definitely a “one more game”....game.

Congrats on the pick up. As you learn the rules you will get to CIU a bit more often.

I very rarely go for the extra ball as I can't hit that shot regularly. Even when CIU is lit and I nail the shot it sometimes bounces out. I have been fortunate enough to hit the Jackpot a couple of times with a high score of 284 million. I've owned the machine for about 9 months and I've just started scratching the surface on games regularly in the 100-200 mill range. The most I've ever completed was 2 CIU and that wasn't my high score. I still have a long ways to go.

Edit: I forgot to mention that I moved the outlane post down as well. I am so glad I did too, especially for other people that come over and play. They have gotten so much further in the game now that I adjusted that post.

Definitely easier from a roll.

I don't have a ColorDMD in my Met yet, but I do have one in my GoT. The LCD in my GoT looks great and the setback does not bother me in the least. I purposely looked at it last night next to the flush mount of the original Met DMD and the setback actually gives the DMD a bit of depth. I will be ordering an LCD for my Met at some point and for me it's not even a close decision.

I'm not sure how the points are awarded either, but I believe you increase the "level" of mystery awards by lighting the inlane lights. So every time you light all 5 lights at the inlanes and pop bumpers you move up another "level". Each level is suppose to increase awards given in mystery.

Although I do like the mod, it is way to much money for me. My pro plays fantastic without it.

I’m a bit jealous of the feeling you have right now. I love the game. Had it over a year and don’t see it going anywhere.

The easiest thing to do at that point if you want that mech is to buy a premium.

Check the coil behind sparky to see if there is a restriction of some sort. Could be a weak coil or dirty sleeve.

I’m not a big mod person, but I do like that.

It does work for most people it seems, but it only reduced my bounce backs slightly. I also tried to bend the bracket to "deaden" the hit on the plunger, but as I was putting slight pressure on it I heard a pop and the bracket moved over to far. I doen't know what the pop was from, but I moved it back and didn't try it again.

I'll have to try this as well. Thank you.

love this post. It’s all good brother.

I got tired of playing poorly and not progressing in the game, so I moved both posts to the bottom hole. Was a huge difference for me.

Possibly a trough issue? I’d start there in switch test both with the balls in and out if the trough.

You won’t regret it.

I'm just curious how he got 4 balls during graveyard multiball. I know you can add one ball by hitting picks then the snake, but that would make it a 3 ball mulitball. I guess it might be possible to start coffin multiball then stack graveyard multiball on top of the coffin multiball.

That looks like the original factory protector. I believe he’s looking for the extended protector that works better than the original.

I know this game well, but I will be watching because you do a fantastic job with your streams.

This is how mine works with the new post. Many others work better though. I’ve tried a few different things and nothing works.

Thank you, I will try any suggestion.

How many LEDs are you possibly trying to put in the game?

He coffin light in the captive ball does flash when you hit the in lane on mine. Every time the call rolls over the in lane the white flasher goes off regardless of its a hurry up or not.

New. That could be the difference.

It’s not to much if it’s what you like. That’s all that matters. I don’t know the answer to your question, but I don’t think you will overload anything with those LEDs.

I'd also like to know more about this.

Anyone have a quick refresher on how to update the code. It’s been a while for me.

I found it. Service bulletin #164 if anyone is interested.

Thank you. I found it in the service bulletin. Updating now. I feel like it’s going to be a whole new game.

If that’s he case, thank you very much.

I think the at least one of the 3 little lights has to be lit to collect a blown piston.

Bottom 2 are definitely bent. Bummer man. Might be able to get the chip off and bend them back.

My wife played the first game with new code. She got 2 CIU modes and got her highest score yet with a 142 mil. I love that she can play the game with a better chance to get a high score now. I know most of these changes could have been achieved by changing the settings, but I hate straying from the factory settings. Excellent update.

I also liked resetting my scores so my wife and kids have a shot at putting their names in the machine. I use iScored to record all of my and everyone else's personal high scores. If you any of you haven't tried it out yet, I recommend looking into it.

Where did you pick up the wires for the switch? I know I could use any wire of that size, I just like how yours are all together.

They don’t have to be completed (hit every shot for that mode) you just have to exit the mode by hit snake, coffin, sparky, and cross one time each. At that point the CIU light will blink. Hit the scoop and collect the jackpot. Then work towards starting a new CIU.

I changed the coffin to 10 hits first EB and 35 for second. It does make a difference

Sub doesn't have to be turned up that much to make a big difference. I have mine setup rather low and it works great. It makes a big enough difference I want all my games on a sub.

First line of Fezmid response.

That’s awesome. I personally would frame it, but either way you choose it’s great.

I could just imagine what I would look like trying to do this.

Some pictures show the old snake fangs which are not stock. They might have been on the first run machines, but have not been for a long time.

I have Cliffys on the mystery hole, works very well. Can’t speak to if it is better than another as it’s all I’ve used.

I order the carbon balls from the ball baron. They work well. Make sure they are the carbon as the other balls will magnetize.

Magnets have carbon fiber protectors. I think they look and work great. If I was to do it again I wouldn’t change a thing.

They look great.

Nicely done.

Whoever puts it together might as well post it here for the rest up us that don't know how to do it.

This can be an area that gets a lot of air balls creating dimpling around the magnet. There is a Sparky plastic extender that works really well to reduce the amount of air balls off of Sparky's feet and therefore dimples. I would recommend getting one if the game you buy doesn't have one. As far as the actual magnet goes. The height can be adjusted, but the magnet will mushroom over time, even for a HUO game. The magnet can be changed out (I believe fairly easily, but I have not had to change one yet). One thing to look for is to make sure the clear around the magnet is in good shape. If the magnet does not get changed in time, the mushroom can start creeping into the playfield. Most HUOs shouldn't have this problem.

I believe the premiums have the SMD boards, but the pros have sockets.

Damn it. I always seem to be a day late and a dollar short. Oh well.

Placed an order for the Monsters Premium Translite back when they were out of stock (didn't realize they were out until after I ordered). Anyways, I got an email today stating it had shipped out. Checked game room guys ebay listing and it looks like there are 3 more available. Link is below.

ebay.com link: Stern Metallica Premium Pinball Backbox Translite Part Number 830 52E 01

I so very much look forward to this day. I love competition and teaching competition to my sons.

Just and FYI, I prefer the stern shaker and not the red tremor shaker.

My opinion would be
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I have had a cliffy on my scoop since the beginning (3 years ago). I would have a fair amount of rejects with hard straight on shots. I removed it this weekend and what a difference. No more rejected shots. I would recommend anyone having trouble hitting the scope shot to try it without the cliffy.

I’ve only read about it, but after nearly 3 years (3 days shy) from they day I bought it, I have reached The End of the Line!!!

Full disclosure: Outlanes closed, extra balls at factory (had 2 more after end of the line, seems like a lot), snake set to hold a ball when 2x scoring, 6.5 to 7 degree playfield. Everything else factory.

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I'm curious as to why you looked at those transistors to replace and why you thought that would work for your problem? Why would the slings still work in a weak state vs full power if those transistors were no good?

Or people would have never thought to check it. I have seen a few people ask your question and this is the first time I have heard of your solution. It's good information to have. So no DMM testing of the transistors would show the problem either?

If you just held the balls together and tried to pull them apart, you won’t feel if the balls are magnetized. You have to put them on a flat surface, put the balls together and slide one ball across the flat surface to see if the second ball moves with the first at all. It doesn’t take much magnetic pull from the balls to really screw things up.

Have you taken the balls out and dropped them in the trough one at a time while in switch test to make sure all the switches register when they are supposed to? I only have a pro, but I would think you should also try this in the coffin. Watch the balls to see if they are getting hung up anywhere while they go through the trough.

I’m not sure how the blending would be on Spider-Man movie clips, but I can tell you I did not like the blending for the Game of Thrones clips. DotsXL looked best on game of thrones. I eventually put a LED in GOT and put the LCD in Metallica. I think the scan/HiRes/blending of the LCD works best for cartoon style animation where there is less detail than an actual video clip.

Just bend the metal so the switch activates earlier. Very easy.

I've done all of this as well and the ball still comes back down often. I just live with it now.

Yes

This was exactly what happen for me as well.

I would doubt that.

I would guess it is going to be a reskin as well with LCD and different animation. I'm good with my current pro. If it is a completely redesigned game, I might be interested in buying one, but I highly doubt it is going to be.

What have been the normal timeframes between a new design for the same theme from the same manufacturer? I’m drawing a blank on when this has been done before, excluding home editions. Maybe Elvira and Scared Stiff which was 7 years apart?

Is this the mode that one of the main shots are flashing and once you hit that you have to hit the captive ball like a hurry up? I think that might be what was going on and you probably had to hit the captive ball.

You can go into settings and limit the total number of extra balls you can receive.

I also wonder if they'd put one thing from the premium on the pro like they did for AC/DC. I would think the rising cross added to the pro with the LCD could entice people to buy the new one over a used original.

You can also check to see if your balls are magnetized. That might be holding them from falling into the proper position in the trough.