Metallica owner's thread

Awesome idea.

I think S&D is fine as is for clearing CIU progress but I wish there was more control over it to let me avoid starting it. Maybe add it to the scoop as an optional CIU mode when it's ready? Then I can choose to NOT start it over and over? I dunno.

Band member modes are a wish but super unlikely.

I know for fact spinner rules are planned, but are coming ???, if ever.

The pistons and fuel lane light rules are so cool in theory but are basically pointless in the present execution - would love to see such a neat rule used to full effect.

My #1:
We need a Death Magnetic song for Coffin MB; FWTBT is used twice in the game, was clearly a placeholder in coffin MB, and has nothing to do with the artwork or theme of the mode. All Nightmare Long seems like a natural fit to me... would LOVE to see this revisited.

Great ideas and for sure all nightmare long would be a great
Fit What a great song that is

Are there adjustments to help the ball not bounce off the orbit post?

90% of the time, it bounces back instead of stopping the ball and dropping to the pops.

I put the totan metal post in mine which has helped a lot.

Thanks for the tip. I'm seeing a lot of "posts" for TOTAN, any specific part numbers I should look for?

Been a while since I bought it but I believe it was this one. I'll hope that someone can confirm though before you buy one as they aren't super cheap.

http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A-17986

Here's the one I used from Pinballlife. http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=3591

Same part number.

+1 to the metal post. It works great

Try making it steeper. Mine usually goes into the top lanes as designed. Mine is a premium however so possibly the spinner is slowing the ball down to the correct speed.

The metal post didn't work on mine very well at all. Maybe 10% better.

Mine is an early run premium. With the standard post I would easily get ~80% rejects on a direct left orbit shot. With the metal post I'm not sure I've ever seen a reject... pitch at ~6.8 degrees

That said, on my friends Metallica late run premium, he has the stock post and rarely gets rejects. Not sure on pitch, but the difference is surprising. Maybe the wireform guide in the back of the orbit was changed in later runs to be more sloped or something?

Made a huge difference on mine. Would almost alway bounce back on a left orbit shot, now rarely ever does. Bummer that it didn't help yours out.

Yea.. I was excited because of all the success others had with the metal post. I'm at 6.5degrees, too. Should it be more?

I'll have to pay more attention to mine, but it has factory post and can only recall it bouncing back down the lane a few times. It pretty much always stops dead and drops into the pops (LED Pro bought in January).

I heard a rumor that stern stopped shipping games this week because of a peeling paint defect with metallica (and possibly kiss?). Churchill cabinet was on site working to resolve the issue. Sounds like it has been fixed for future orders but for those of you that are having the issue now, might be worth a call to stern.

This could be true because my MET LED pro machine was suppose to ship the 8th, but nothing yet.

Mine was held up from shipping also. A good thing, hopefully!

Hopefully mine I just got dont do it, it was born on April 9 ill probably never know as I put mylar down before playing

I would be in favor of some victory laps after completing S&D that would give you double CIU progress or possibly make each pass through S&D a multiplier towards subsequent CIU progress (like if you've done S&D once then the lit inserts would give 2 items the next time through etc.). I think those would be better than having S&D just not reset and being a once-per-game mode, although that might not be terrible either.

I whole-heartedly agree on The Four Horsemen being needed for the mode that was clearly designed for it.

Sanitarium happens to be almost exactly the same length as Unforgiven..

I second this. All Nightmare Long or My Apocalypse would be good choices.

A cancel out of the mystery award would be great. I was thinking the same thing.

The biggest adjustment for me has been adding spinners. MET was probably designed with the LE (spinners) in mind. I have the metal post also but noticed a large improvement in bouncebacks after adding the spinners.

Added speaker panel to met. Now to continue with a whole list of stuff.

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There's so much out there you could double the cost of your game.

So true... I have the Mezel speakers and some other but my two favorite mods are relatively inexpensive. The eyeball decal for the coffin (plain one looks naked now) and a green flasher for the snake. Having the whole area behind him light up green is so much more eye catching when its prompting you to make his shot, and looks great when the playfield goes dark and he lights up green during the tally.

If I had to choose, I'd say that snake flasher is my favorite thing and it cost like 2 bucks.

This is so TRUE! I don't even want to tally up what i've spent on mods

Fyi, the metal orbit post worked like a charm. Thanks fellas...

Yeah, I dig it on mine too.

Two questions!

1) Is there a way to fix the inline drops not going down when hit square by a fast ball? It's super annoying.

2) I had 2/3 drops down, hit the right ramp, and the drops reset. First time it's ever happened. Any idea what's up?

Looks like stern may make a new premium run

1) There are posts about changing or adjusting the springs to help them drop quicker, but on mine this problem went away after a few hundred plays. The only time I see it now is right after a waxing when the ball is screaming around, but even that is a rare occurrence.

2) Those were dropped during a multiball. They will stay down and allow you to start Grave as long as you DON'T hit a ramp first - actually I think hitting the orbits will reset them as well.

Source?

Looks like you shouldn't hold your breath:

https://www.facebook.com/sternpinball/posts/10153361011924244

The way the drops and Cross MB qualification works isn't as intuitive as one would think, the logic works something like this AFAIK...

To start Cross multiball (once) you require 4 "MB qualification" shots AND a clear shot to the back cross opto.

In single ball play, this is very straightforward - each drop target counts as one 'qualifier', advances bonus X, one CIU cross, and gets you closer to the back off the cross lane. Once the cross is exposed, one more shot is the last qualifier needed and Cross MB will start on the 5th.

In multiball play (with the exception of Coffin which allows stacking) or in CIU modes, hits to the cross targets do NOT add "MB qualification" shots. So even though you knock down targets, they don't actually progress you toward Cross MB, but the do get you a clear shot to the back of the cross lane and you should be acquiring bonus X and CIU progress.

Once you exit the MB/CIU mode, the drop target logic works something along these lines:

If you have 3 or more "MB qualification" shots made previous to whatever your mode was (ie - you made some combination of cross shots on a previous ball or before the mode) the drops will stay down until you drain, and you can shoot the back cross opto to keep progressing to cross MB. If you do NOT have enough qualification shots, the drops will reset on a snake, ramp or orbit shot (because the game knows the ball isn't trapped behind the drops). What is interesting is if you avoid shooting these other shots and focus on the cross lane where you might have a 1-3 targets down already, you can then keep progressing to cross MB without having to shoot all the dangerous drops and/or acquire an extra "qualifier" so that the cross drops wont reset.

It's a bit confusing and I'm not 100% sure I have the logic nailed down but essentially you need to realize that Cross drops don't necessarily equal cross MB progression in all cases, and if you don't have enough progression, they will reset on certain playfield shots.

I hope they don't make anything more than Pros. Keeps us Premium and LE owners investment from going down the tubes

They are just wanting customers to tell their distributor and if there is enough interest they may? It was posted to FB... kinda trolling, but there have been many wanting one and the license is still valid.

Thanks for the info on the grave drops. Pretty insane how intricate those things are! I'll do some research on the actual tightening of the drops, too.

Have any of you sold your sparkys? I may end up with an extra one, curious what the true market value is.

I can't believe Stern doesn't crank these out at quantity so people who want a second one to try painting or just want it as decor could have one. Seems like easy money.

Anyone have an issue with their snake head breaking off the back mounting screw and also breaking off the top of the mount. My snake did both and is just resting on the top of the bracket. Just curious if anyone else has this issue.

Thanks Chris

our Metallica is on route and doing well! ( i want it home )

Want to join the club. What's a fair price for NIB on the pro LED?

Three good choices to call are:

JJ @ Game Exchange Colorado
Cointaker
Trent @ Tilt

Great game!

i got so tired of looking for a NIB Premium for the last month, so I finally pulled the trigger & placed my order with Steve for a pimped out MET LED Pro Pinball Refinery Edition. Won't be long now until I "officially" join the club Can't wait!

Cool. What options did ya get?

Picking up my NIB Pro from Sern Tuesday, can't wait!! I also get a tour.

Yea, Stern doesn't always do a great job pre-guessing or adapting production levels on their Premium or LE models, yet they have no problems making Pros.

Power Ball captive ball.
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Give me a shout buddy

That looks great! I got a monster green one to put as my captive ball. I got to wait till I get my playfield back from stern to put it in. I still need to send the playfield to them first but I haven't had time to remove and ship it out. Was it hard to install the power ball?