Pearland, TX
Premiums did get the M’s….mine has them
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Quoted from Anony:Did stern install a metal protector in front of the snake at any point? I just got my cliffy set and realized the snake already had a protector in front of it which is confirming my suspicion that the previous owner removed a bunch of mods before selling it to me, but I guess was too lazy to remove this one [quoted image]
Factory installed…
Mississauga, ON
Quoted from WildRover:Does anyone need an orange powder coated MET LE metal apron?
Pics?
Quoted from Medic:Does anyone have a premium with fluorescent green or orange plastic protectors? Since the premium/LE have colored leds I heard it doesn’t look as good but wanted to see if others like theirs.
i like to mix it up 
Green plastics with orange titans .
5878C4A0-59EC-41AF-AF23-D7A03DF319EA (resized).jpeg6F11F46B-135B-45BF-B959-21EE7333AC2B (resized).jpegA6F52CB5-515B-46C4-9D2F-17C0151E3CFB (resized).jpegQuoted from Anony:My premium has round speaker holes, no Ms. Sounds like they did it differently depending on what production run it was.
Agreed. Pretty sure it was a short run of non LED pro’s…the LED pro was released soon after Premiums started shipping as people started asking why the pro’s didn’t have LED’s. It was also at that time Stern switched to the metal back box and that is probably what was used moving forward for both the pro and premium and the M’s were dropped.
Here is a pic of mine for reference.
62756009-853E-4580-B4AA-9EF125965515 (resized).jpegQuoted from Pickle:Premiums did get the M’s….mine has them
Hmmm….mine does not. Weird.
Quoted from Gunnut40:Hmmm….mine does not. Weird.
Not weird, mine doesn't have them either. They stopped adding them at some point in one of the many different runs.
someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the initial premium editions were all of the "monster" variety. stern then produced the roadshow case cabinet and carried over the last of the premiums that were also produced.
the original backbox for the pro's (with incandescent lights), premiums and the master of puppets LE (both of which had LED boards) were wooden with the square speaker holes.
the switch to the roadshow case pro's (and last remaining premiums) ushered in stern's metal backbox, which also featured the angled (round holed) speaker panel to help eliminate the glare from the DMD on the playfield glass.
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Hi Guys,
My Met has started behaving erratically; sending additional balls when it should not, killing flippers till the ball drains...
Through opto is registering fine and soldering has been reflown. I don't think the issue is there.
On my ST Pro I also had some weird opto issues which were solved by changing the MPU.
Could it also be the culprit here?
Quoted from Nihonmasa:Hi Guys,
My Met has started behaving erratically; sending additional balls when it should not, killing flippers till the ball drains...
Through opto is registering fine and soldering has been reflown. I don't think the issue is there.
On my ST Pro I also had some weird opto issues which were solved by changing the MPU.
Could it also be the culprit here?
This exact same thing happened to me last year. It turns out one of the trough wires came undone. I soldered it back,and everything was back to normal.
I think there's four wires,and one of them came lose.
Quoted from Nihonmasa:Hi Guys,
My Met has started behaving erratically; sending additional balls when it should not, killing flippers till the ball drains...
Through opto is registering fine and soldering has been reflown. I don't think the issue is there.
On my ST Pro I also had some weird opto issues which were solved by changing the MPU.
Could it also be the culprit here?
Magnetic balls? Loose opto plug? If you can pull the plug with almost no effort it will come loose during game play.
Put it in ball clear mode and watch the screen while you cycle through the balls. All optos involved will be indicated on the screen. Definitely a trough issue. Also ck switch in shooter lane.
Quoted from Anony:My premium has round speaker holes, no Ms. Sounds like they did it differently depending on what production run it was.
Mine has square speaker holes and the M's installed.
Quoted from LOTR_breath:Put it in ball clear mode and watch the screen while you cycle through the balls. All optos involved will be indicated on the screen. Definitely a trough issue. Also ck switch in shooter lane.
I have two connections, one one wither side of thr trough that need fully seated from time to time.
Quoted from John-Floyd:I have a MET pro with the plastic apron bottom arch. Is it possible to upgrade to a nicer steel apron like I have on all my other games? I’d like to buy a purple powder coated one if possible as I’m going to powder coat my machine in the next few months.
https://www.pinballlife.com/stern-bottom-apronarch-metal.html
Quoted from Roostking:I have two connections, one one wither side of thr trough that need fully seated from time to time.
A lot of the time, it's the wiring on upper ball trough opto connector that is loose. It's an IDC crimp and there's a lot of vibration in that area.
Part 12
I'd definitely put that in my Pro! Mine has a few mods and I'm not picky about being 'original'. I'll PM you.
Quoted from WildRover:You got it. Its in perfect condition, never used....the guy I bought the Pro from was prototyping colors and he never got the rest done. Its a matching candy orange with a slight sparkle to it:[quoted image][quoted image]
Quoted from pinballjah:New glass cover, little shorter than the others I have but can see full apron cards now.
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I like it! 
617264C2-65FD-42D9-ABD7-516A15327A0A (resized).pngI just got my 3d snake mod installed and wasn't able to fit the plastic ball deflector that goes behind the snake/beside the hammer. I've already had one ball pop up and get stuck on the hammer handle.
Anyone else have this issue? Any advice to deal with it? I think I could install the deflector on one post only, but the second one just barely doesn't fit.
Whelp, dream pin came up three days after getting this so time to go! Posting it in case anyone knows anyone looking. Thanks!
Quoted from Pickle:Man…I know there is a reason I never look at pins on EBay…a MOPLE is listed for $24K and a refinery Pro for $14.5K….
So I will offer up my Premium at $17.5K…let the bidding begin LOL!
eBay fees are like 20 percent with cc fees too so that’s why $$$$
Quoted from Medic:Does anyone know where I can get this rubber stopper from the back box? I’m missing one thanks
Just got one for my walking dead..
I like comparing my scores to other qualifying scores from big tournaments. Set your Metallica Pro to no extra balls and tighten up the tilt and play 3 or 4 games and compare your best game today to the scores to from the NYC pinball championship tourney qualifying last weekend.
20mil gets you 72nd place.
30mil gets you 57th place.
38mil gets you 47th place and ahead of Neil Graf and podcaster Travis Murie.
55mil gets you 33rd place and ahead of streamer Neil McRae and NYC player Greg Poverlli.
60mil gets you 27th place and ahead of podcaster Tom Graf.
100mil gets you 16th place and ahead of American Pinballs Steve Bowden (#10 IFPA rank).
124mil gets you 12th place and ahead of Bill 'Boom' Mason - final winner of the tourney!
134mil gets you 10th place and ahead of Pinsider Crazy Levi and Sterns Raymond Davidson (#2 IFPA rank).
185mil gets you 6th place and ahead of Canadas Robert Gagno (#127 IFPA rank)
250mil gets you 3rd place and ahead of NYC player Nick Zendejas (#180 IFPA rank)
358mil gets you 2nd place and ahead of NYC player Sean Grant (#1128 IFPA rank)
562mil gets you 1st place and ahead of New England podcaster Joe Lemire (#57 IFPA rank)
Print these out and see where you and your friends qualify at your next party:
https://www.neverdrains.com/nycpc2022/playerIndex.php?disp=game&sel=Main&game=129
Quoted from Anony:I just got my 3d snake mod installed and wasn't able to fit the plastic ball deflector that goes behind the snake/beside the hammer. I've already had one ball pop up and get stuck on the hammer handle.
Anyone else have this issue? Any advice to deal with it? I think I could install the deflector on one post only, but the second one just barely doesn't fit.
Just want to bump this question one time before I start looking into designing a 3d printable hammer cover to stop the balls from hanging up there.
I wanted to raise the music volume and not the call outs. I saw a music volume setting but no voice setting. A poster on here said there were two settings voice and music? Are there two settings to control voice/music or just the music volume? Thanks
I believe it's called music attenuation. Adjust the overall volume, then reduce the music attenuation to make it louder that the call outs.
Quoted from Medic:I wanted to raise the music volume and not the call outs. I saw a music volume setting but no voice setting. A poster on here said there were two settings voice and music? Are there two settings to control voice/music or just the music volume? Thanks
Attenuation. Negative numbers increase the volume of the music without adjusting the master volume
Quoted from LOTR_breath:I believe it's called music attenuation. Adjust the overall volume, then reduce the music attenuation to make it louder that the call outs.
Thank you OutlawTorn304 as well. I didn’t even know this option existed!
Now this guy can rock to louder music!
9956148D-2E0F-4D13-AFDF-FD690B22E771 (resized).jpegQuoted from finnflash:That's so hot, Lars face is melting
Thats funny.
Getting a Met in the next few days, and I noticed some have UV light rails different than the pinstadium ones mounted on the playfield not on on the sides. I’m guessing it’s probably not a mod that’s not available anymore and/or is it better to just get pinstadiums for it?
Quoted from Hangry:Getting a Met in the next few days, and I noticed some have UV light rails different than the pinstadium ones mounted on the playfield not on on the sides. I’m guessing it’s probably not a mod that’s not available anymore and/or is it better to just get pinstadiums for it?
Totally different concept. Those UV rails were invented/made close to when the pin was made. If I recall correctly Pinstadiums showed up a couple of years later.
Quoted from DK:Totally different concept. Those UV rails were invented/made close to when the pin was made. If I recall correctly Pinstadiums showed up a couple of years later.
Ok cool thank you. Will look into some pinstadiums then. I have the art blades they used for the UV, so would be sweet to be able to use that effect.
Quoted from Medic:Thank you OutlawTorn304 as well. I didn’t even know this option existed!
Now this guy can rock to louder music![quoted image]
I didn’t know about this till you posted it, people want like 80-100 bucks for that figure now
I did buy the Eddie replica guitar I’ll figure out a use for though.
BC3AFD0A-C11E-4D1B-B94C-70517D25BBFF (resized).jpegQuoted from Hangry:I didn’t know about this till you posted it, people want like 80-100 bucks for that figure now
I did buy the Eddie replica guitar I’ll figure out a use for though.
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You can get the upside down capsule from Amazon for $20 for a two pack. It’s random so you may not get him. Please post a picture if you decide to use that guitar in the game
Quoted from Hangry:Getting a Met in the next few days, and I noticed some have UV light rails different than the pinstadium ones mounted on the playfield not on on the sides. I’m guessing it’s probably not a mod that’s not available anymore and/or is it better to just get pinstadiums for it?
Do you mean these from pinball refinery?
Quoted from gonzo73:Metallica died the day Jason left.
Fact.
Agree…Metallica sold out long ago and hasn’t put a a GREAT album since the Black album. And that album was when Metallica went commercial….they got money and an arrogant…..still a great band to see live but their new music is just….lazy and and uninspired sounding to me.
Quoted from Anony:Do you mean these from pinball refinery?
https://mipinballrefinery.com/store-to-order-upgrades#!/Creeping-Death-Lighting-effects-for-the-Cabinet-Artwork/p/30141856/category=5707242
That would be them! Thank you!
Quoted from gonzo73:Metallica died the day Jason left.
Fact.
U mean Cliff?! (Jason was amazing too. But, so is Rob!) Maybe the problem is someone else! 
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