Quoted from deeznuts:i don't know why i bother
I don't know why either.
In my opinion, it's one of Stern's best pins ever. Fun, challenging, good variety of shots, and fairly deep. Superb artwork on the PF.
Quoted from deeznuts:I have an LE and regret it. It got old fast. Plays spongy, floatly, and bouncy. Shots seems innacurate compared to my other sterns. No matter how much I try to dial it in I can't get it to "feel" right.
Shots just seem noticeably "off". Music is ok and I like the art package. Wish I didn't buy into the hype, but got a chance to score one of the last LE before they sold out according to pinside. Looked good on paper. Pinside made it sound better (usually the case with everything). Got desperate and paid retail for it and I regret it. Think i'm gonna dump it soon.
In my stern lineup, it's the last one I play (when motivated). Collects dust most of the time.
I wouldn't recommend it. I'd recommend either im, tron, or sm if you want a stern
Set it free bro.. I am sure someone else will love it
Quoted from pingod:What a shitty line up
Met rocks
YA it is I should just sell them.
Quoted from deeznuts:I have an LE and regret it. It got old fast. Plays spongy, floatly, and bouncy. Shots seems innacurate compared to my other sterns. No matter how much I try to dial it in I can't get it to "feel" right.
Shots just seem noticeably "off". Music is ok and I like the art package. Wish I didn't buy into the hype, but got a chance to score one of the last LE before they sold out according to pinside. Looked good on paper. Pinside made it sound better (usually the case with everything). Got desperate and paid retail for it and I regret it. Think i'm gonna dump it soon.
In my stern lineup, it's the last one I play (when motivated). Collects dust most of the time.
I wouldn't recommend it. I'd recommend either im, tron, or sm if you want a stern
I think your opinion is valid. Your explanations are well thought out.
But I find it interesting that you recommend tron and spiderman but feel Metallica plays "floaty". Have you increased your pitch a bit? The game shouldn't feel any more floaty than any of the other games you listed. I don't know what spongy is. Have you played any other metallicas and compared to yours?
Thanks everyone! I really appreciate the feedback and it makes me even more confident in my decision to buy one.
Quoted from deeznuts:i like how thumbs down appear when you express your thoughts on a game you own. i don't know why i bother
Think of it this way, you could have put WPT in your lineup and gotten 100 more thumbs down on your post.
Light show in the Premium is outstanding. In the begining I was wondering if I made the right choice by buying the LE, Now that the code is finished it was a no brainer.
Pro is excellent but IMO the premium/LS is the way to go.
Was gonna get a Pro, but wife said to get the best so I ordered the Premium since L.E. were no more available.
I love mine.... And to be critical the one thing I want to fix is a ramp issue. I would like to figure a way to have the ball go straight down to the lane and not bounce back up the ramp and then into the lane.. Thanks being super critical though. It's a blast
Quoted from Jeff_PHX_AZ:Was gonna get a Pro, but wife said to get the best so I ordered the Premium since L.E. were no more available.
you did get the best version, smart wife.
No regrets , it's a lot more polished w/ the updates.. I had Gio from the Pinball Refinery work his magic on mine .. Kick ass game , I agree it's one of Sterns best.
Traded/sold my TZ for a Metallica Pro (I got cash as well) and don't regret it one bit. I know many purists will have issues with that deal, but agree to disagree I guess. Hooked it up to a shaker motor and sub woofer and it's an experience I've never had with any of my games. It has attitude and the new codes just keep making the gameplay better. Go for it. Metal up your ass!
I play it at my brothers house all the time,it is one of the Best game i ever played,it's up there with the Best!
When it came out the Hammer was very clunchy but got netter with some codes and then the Replacement
Board came out and some more coding and works like a new car now
The Hammer and Sparky are the Best Toys ever !
The Light Show and GI experience on Prem/Le is so awesome.
The Gameplay is amazing,Lyman did it again what a Rush playing MetallicA so many things to shoot
at and to go for. And the flow is awesome.
Everyone that is on the Fence of getting one,do yourselfs a favor and get one Fast !
Quoted from SpecialK-33:...Hooked it up to a shaker motor and sub woofer and it's an experience I've never had with any of my games. It has attitude and the new codes just keep making the gameplay better. Go for it. Metal up your ass!
I agree shaker and a sub are a must!
Quoted from tatman9999:Have an LE and love it.
What's going on under your AC/DC?
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Top 5 pin in my opinion, the new code is superb and its staying for a very long time in my collection
Have a modded MET PRO and it is truely a great game
Didnt feel the hammer and the leds in LE/Premium were worth the extra money from a PLAYERS point of view but if money is no issue, go for HUO LE/Premium if you wish.
My PRO gets a lot of play&love but ACDC Premium still wins (but not by much with the current firmwareupdates from MET)
IF you get a PRO, be sure to led it out, makes it look so much better
You can see my MET at
Great Game i love it and glad i got on board,my firts NIB and i was scared to spend that kind
of money but when i saw that Playfiled, MOP cabinet art and the Toys i had to have it.
I am a metallica fan and love pinball but 8500 $ Canadian ,for a toy.
Then i got scared again always thinking about that load of cash i had to pay so i asked people
around me and everyone told me the same thing,d'ont worry it's going to be a Great game
Lyman is on the code,they where right.
That game keeps me playing over and over even more with the latest updates,i love it
all the modes and so many things to shoot at i love that interactive Snake and the Ramps
feels so smoot and not too easy ramps combo shots.
I would buy again in a heartbeat,best game i ever played (help that i am a metallica fan )
Lyman and Stern did a Super job on this,thanks .
Quoted from yancy:I installed mine without too much trouble, but ended up taking it out. The right edge hangs slightly over the shooter lane cutout, just enough to occasionally hang balls and make the autofire sloppy. I replaced it with mylar. Dunno if the mylar will hold, but I care more about having a perfectly functioning game than a perfectly preserved one.
Removed my mystery scoop protector too, once the shot became important for CIU. It's not an easy shot to begin with, and I was getting some dead-on rejections. Shot feels a lot more natural & fair with just a rounded wood lip.
No offense to Cliffy. He makes fine products which I use on multiple games. They just don't always match my nitpicky expectations. It's probably impossible to add a piece of metal to a game and have it play exactly the same.
I've had some rejected scoop shots like that...no idea if it's the protector or not, but I just man up and PLAY BETTER... or slap the hell out of it when it gets too frustrating!
Quoted from Lethal_Inc:Have these issues been corrected with the newer production runs?
Mine is from like late last year IIRC and it doesn't have either isssue.
Quoted from Frax:I've had some rejected scoop shots like that...no idea if it's the protector or not, but I just man up and PLAY BETTER... or slap the hell out of it when it gets too frustrating!
I agree it's hard to know if the protector is causing rejections, but when I removed it my success rate went up. So I'm either PLAYING BETTER or just playing the game as designed. No complaints about the mystery scoop now.
Quoted from yancy:I used to think TSPP was an amazing game. It's impressive how far Stern has come.
Yup
You put TSPP beside a New Stern and see a huge difference just looking at it.
I really enjoy Stern's new Technologie the lightning on the Prem/Le is amazing
what a huge difference and the changing color lights is adding a lot in the gameplay.
Anyway's just My 2 cents
Quoted from thunderking50:what a huge difference and the changing color lights is adding a lot in the gameplay.
I'd say 'experience' and not 'gameplay'. Gameplay is shots and rules, overall experience is audio and lighting and such. All very important of course. I'm just quibbling over word choice.
Quoted from RobT:Put AC/DC in there and take the clunky TSPP off your list.
So, you acknowledge Tron is not top 5 stern? I'd take TSPP over ACDC any day.
Quoted from Pimp77:So, you acknowledge Tron is not top 5 stern? I'd take TSPP over ACDC any day.
Does this need it's own thread?
Your top five modern era Sterns. Go!
I love my METLE. I don't get to play as much as I'd like though I will tonight after I upload 1.6. I have the same complaint as the others with the Cliffy shooter lane protector. The left side (under the wood rail) seems to shift a lot and occasionally hangs balls up. I also have a hard time making consistent snake shots. I think there was a thread - was it maybe Rarehero??? who made the shot a bit easier by inserting a few washers? I've looked for that thread but cant find it...
Quoted from S37VEN:I love my METLE......I have the same complaint as the others with the Cliffy shooter lane protector. The left side (under the wood rail) seems to shift a lot and occasionally hangs balls up. ....
I have this on 3 machines. Think I was even one of the first to install it. Its a bt PITA to properly install it (sometimes have to readjust the shooter) but is works flawless. The part under the woodrail, dont have it stick over to much, align it nicely with the shooterlane and tighten the woodrail, works OK for me. Over 3 machnioes I think 1000 plays no issue (yet at least)
Quoted from RobT:No, but ACDC is better, so I would add it before Tron.
In other words I have a bigger issue with ACDC not being on your list than Tron. All the pins you mention are excellent, except TSPP.
TSPP is prolly my fav game ever made.
Different folks different strokes.
I like ACDC & Tron too so maybe I just like everything.
Quoted from PW79:TSPP is prolly my fav game ever made.
And you aren't the only one that feels that way. I owned it, and it made a good first impression, but I grew tired of it very quickly.
Like you said, different strokes...
Quoted from PW79:TSPP is prolly my fav game ever made.
Different folks different strokes.
I like ACDC & Tron too so maybe I just like everything.
You just have excellent taste!
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