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Free t-shirt! Is that standard for LE machines?
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Quoted from Nuclear_Waste:Free t-shirt! Is that standard for LE machines?
Not sure. I recall them doing something like that with Tron and a few people never getting their shirts, but don't remember it for other games.
Quoted from Skulz:Thanks for the pics.
Is the head and side cab scratched or is that part of the artwork?
It's the puppet strings from the hands.
Quoted from LesManley:There are NO fangs on the LE snake.
I heard that somewhere .
Quoted from Av8:The LE code is not ready. Would be a mistake to use in launch party. Smart PR move on a sterns part. Give Lyman time. So many shots and features he hasn't even activated.
I played the test Premium today. Plays like Pro but the Grave Marker looks sick going up and down with led flashers. i can confirm the mirrored back glass is the best Stern back glass ever.
Look forward to the pics.
Really, from playing multiple games on it, the LE plays just like a Pro at this point, so I don't know how they could say the code isn't ready. If the Pro code is ready to be played by the masses, the LE is IMHO. The only difference are the spinners and physical ball lock. The spinners add points, but not a ton and the hammer had 0 issues when we played it tonight over multiple games.
I heard that somewhere .
This isn't gameplay and certainly isn't something that is going to change, so this should be okay to show. Here's the snake defanged. It looks like it was a change that was made later down the line since the metal plate in the bottom of the snake mouth has holes on the sides where it looks like the fangs would have fit when the mouth was closed.
Quoted from McCune:How is the lighting ? Does it change colors for different modes ?
The color changing LEDs do not do much yet. There aren't modes really to change on, so no. They didn't change for ...and Justice for All or any of the multiballs. The only time I saw them used so far was to light a specific shot like the right orbit for instance. Then if you shot the right orbit, it would start the captive ball hurry up count down.
Quoted from Pinball-Wiz:Is anyone else surprised at how underdeveloped the code is on the LE at this point? Is the code update on monday going to be huge? I couldn't see that it would be, as they could have just released another code today to add some things.
I'm paying around $8K for mine and was unfortunate enough to buy an X-men LE at launch, and sold that after 6 months of crappy code.
No sound on the hammer? Could you imagine the bell on AC/DC not having the sound or the TNT bank not yelling "fight" when you hit it?
I guess I'll put my faith in Lyman at this point and hope for the best?
I'm still amazed to see people surprised at getting bare bones code when receiving a newly released game from Stern. Its been like that for every game that I can remember. If you arent ready to wait a lil while for a proper code i'd suggest not buying until its more polished.
Kelowna, BC
Is it just me, or does it look like the fangs were REMOVED from an already complete mold? I feel like I can see where they were snipped off, but maybe I'm imagining things?
Quoted from Triumvirat73:Is it just me, or does it look like the fangs were REMOVED from an already complete mold? I feel like I can see where they were snipped off, but maybe I'm imagining things?
Sure is. You can even see some of the white paint.
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:It's Wolverine all over again
Waison.
Lyman.
That's all I gotta say about that 
We could turn the alligator back into a snake with a flexible tongue like in Grand Lizard but smaller of course.
Congrats on your game look forward to updates and features.
Thanks for sharing even if Al Bundy out shares you to date 
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:It's Wolverine all over again
Seriously???? 
Quoted from smassa:Seriously????
No,I'm not being serious, but the snake does look a little funny without fangs 
Quoted from Rarehero:Waison.
Lyman.
That's all I gotta say about that
Totally agree 
Quoted from LesManley:The hammer worked perfectly. It is anti-climatic though since there isn't a sound effect yet for it. It is screaming for one and I am sure they will add it. To light coffin multiball now, it is shots to the metal box (captive ball in Pro).
Metal box? Eh? I thought the LE would have the same captive ball, but w/ the Hammer over it. What's this metal box?
Does the orbit post reject balls from the left orbit shot like it does on the Pro? I'm guessing the mechanism is the same so it probably does.
Quoted from flashburn:Does the orbit post reject balls from the left orbit shot like it does on the Pro? I'm guessing the mechanism is the same so it probably does.
Interesting, does your post pop up for all left loop shots? It shouldn't. Only plunge shots and right orbit shots should fire the orbit post up.
Is it possible that by announcing your intentions to take video and photos of a technically unreleased machine, which you probably shouldn't have to begin with, and promising to post them on the most widely read forum (especially by stern employees), this MAY have drawn attention to yourself, thus causing them to squash your plans?
Always keep your mouth closed and play dumb! LE? What LE? That thing never arrived, but check out my new YouTube uploads!
Quoted from Rarehero:Metal box? Eh? I thought the LE would have the same captive ball, but w/ the Hammer over it. What's this metal box?
Isn't that the ball lock under the big coffin insert?
Oh man they totally snipped off the fangs and painted it green LOL. Sucks as it looks way better with fangs , but if they are going to break not much you can do.
Quoted from Mando:Oh man they totally snipped off the fangs and painted it green LOL. Sucks as it looks way better with fangs , but if they are going to break not much you can do.
I wouldn't worry about this at all... fang mods are coming.
Quoted from GUMBO:What's the opening under the start button?
Where a tournament button would go.
Quoted from Rarehero:Metal box? Eh? I thought the LE would have the same captive ball, but w/ the Hammer over it. What's this metal box?
Promo pics seems to show the ball, another change.
Quoted from LesManley:This isn't gameplay and certainly isn't something that is going to change, so this should be okay to show. Here's the snake defanged. It looks like it was a change that was made later down the line since the metal plate in the bottom of the snake mouth has holes on the sides where it looks like the fangs would have fit when the mouth was closed.
Oh dear. Poor snake.
Fangs for the memory 
Quoted from Mando:Promo pics seems to show the ball, another change.
Guess thats the surprise?
It still bugs me that LE and Premium models get the plastic leg protectors. I know it's a small issue but still.
The snake looks funny as we're use to seeing fangs but remember, he only opens his mouth when he's ready. Meaning, he isn't opened the entire game like in the pro models.
Quoted from Whysnow:Also > looks like the early pros are now the tru LEs How many fanged snakes are out there...
about 50-60 plays and they will all be fangless... who cares about the fangs. It was a great idea to remove them and let the secondary market come up with fang mods that won't break. So many promising things about this pin and some are worried about two white fangs...
Thinking about it, maybe the metal box is simply a backboard for the ball to bounce back and get centered on the magnet. Perhaps in testing they had trouble with the captive ball mech and the hammer/magnet working together.
Quoted from PinManV:To confirm, no shaker correct?
I was wondering same thing - curious minds need to know...
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:It's Wolverine all over again
Quoted from smassa:Seriously????
Quoted from Kiwipinhead:No,I'm not being serious, but the snake does look a little funny without fangs
Totally agree
Careful about using xmen references on this title around smassa
Game sounds tight, can't wait to play it!
I think the main people worried about 2 missing fangs are the failippers that sucked up LEs just to make a buck off of others. The should probably also be worried about the gag order Stern is placing on the one LE currently in the wild and the god aweful powder color choice.
Looks like the premium is the better choice for anyone. No need to overpay on a supposed LE that some donkey bought from his distributor buddy just to make a buck.
It is really just a metal box that covers the handle of the hammer where the captive ball was in the Pro. The side facing the player is flat and that is what you hit to score "captive ball hits". It is different for sure, but it registers hits very well, we never had a problem with it.
Quoted from Whysnow:I think the main people worried about 2 missing fangs are the failippers that sucked up LEs just to make a buck off of others. The should probably also be worried about the gag order Stern is placing on the one LE currently in the wild and the god aweful powder color choice.
Looks like the premium is the better choice for anyone. No need to overpay on a supposed LE that some donkey bought from his distributor buddy just to make a buck.
I agree about the powder coat. But the cab/backglass art package IS the best on the LEs. That said, chrome will look tight on the LE.
The fangs are no big deal. Just think about how much complaining everyone would have done if they designed the snake without fangs from the beginning...
A friend of mine and I ran $30 through a pro over two nights and did not mind the one broken fang a bit!
Quoted from flashburn:Does the orbit post reject balls from the left orbit shot like it does on the Pro? I'm guessing the mechanism is the same so it probably does.
Yes it does. Rule wise, it plays identical to the Pro with the addition of spinner scoring and the "Seek and Destory" which, like I said before I got, but I wasn't sure how I did it and it wasn't super amazing yet.
Quoted from Whysnow:I think the main people worried about 2 missing fangs are the failippers that sucked up LEs just to make a buck off of others. The should probably also be worried about the gag order Stern is placing on the one LE currently in the wild and the god aweful powder color choice.
Looks like the premium is the better choice for anyone. No need to overpay on a supposed LE that some donkey bought from his distributor buddy just to make a buck.
what are failippers anyway? Your just a hater that wanted an LE and missed out... You tried to trade your $10,000 FT for one so I know you really wanted one.
The Premium version is a great choice but the bottom line is the collectors will always want the LE version no matter how much you try to trash it.
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