Yea simple green is bad news on aluminum
In my experience it can discolor / etch it

I was always under the impression that people were just spraying novus 2 all the time on their playfields.

When I started in this 10+ years ago it was generally thought that waxing the clearcoated playfields was pointless as there were not cracks for the wax to grip, and it would just come off and spread throughout the game.

I guess times have changed. Novus all the time seems excessive, but so does waxing every hundred or so plays.

I guess the great thing about owning your own games is you get to do whatever the heck you want

Some people wash/wax their cars every week too. I've never waxed a vehicle in my life, and I don't wax my newer games either. I just keep them clean, and they play great.

Metallica LE with the latest firmware installed shaker motor set on Max. It shakes but not as much as say a Tron set to moderate. Is this normal ?

That's the funniest thing that I've ever heard!!

Guess I should never wax any of my cars that have a clear coat on them either, since there are no "cracks for the wax to grip"!

I brought up a shaker on my pro a few weeks ago. Those settings just decided how often it shakes. Not how hard. With moderate/max it shakes for all captive ball hits, multiball jackpots and during sparky when he's being electrocuted.

On how hard it shakes mine is violent. Everything is bolted and as secured as I can get it. It rattles te hell out of the game and is on obnoxious. I'm working on modifying the weights of the motor to call it down. Avengers XMen and avatar at my local place its a nice subtle movement and no vibrating the hell out of everything.

Jim

Could be onto something. When I had CV I removed the decal on the lid of the RM and polished it.
The ball would go all over that plate before stopping on the center. I put the grippy decal back on and it grabbed and held the ball in the center almost instantly.
Hope it works, I'm still kick'n around the idea of getting a Premium.

Thank you for the clarification on the differences on the settings
I guess I am lucky because on my LE its subtle compared to my other shaker.

Where do you buy your polished balls from?

So far this is what I've noticed.

-Spider inserts are white when "selected" and turn red when you complete them w the coffin hurry up

-Fuel lane turns purple when ready for 2x scoring and pink-purple when 2x is active.

-GI has various color fx. Red "burst" when a ramp combo is started. All blue when Grave Marker Super Jackpot is collected....a few others.

So far a few minor issues with my Metallica MOP LE:

1- Head chrome trim has dents where it was resting on the side rails. Emailed Stern, they are sending a replacement today.

2- The "blue led GI" under the return lanes keeps cutting in and out as the flippers energize. Possibly a loose socket, haven't investigated yet.

3- Left orbit was slightly too narrow, I had a ball get trapped. Bending the wire form and ball guide slightly with my fingers resolved the problem.

4- Ball launch is inconsistent. Sometimes it is a clean plunge, other times, it gets caught up near the "ramp" portion, resulting in a missed skill shot.

All-in-all, very minor issues in my opinion. I didn't have any other issues (bubbling side art, non-working lights/assemblies etc).

I'm going to go out on a limb here and go on the record stating "Sterns build quality met my expectations"! I am very pleased with my machine, hopefully everyone's is on-par with mine.

I have this problem too, especially with the autoplunger.

Wax On,Wax Off Danielson!

Yup,me 2 with the automatic plunger!

Me too

Ditto. Glad to hear it's not just me, but at the same time I'm sad to hear it is happening to several others. I hope there's an easy resolution to this issue down the road.

I prefer moose over caribou, but to each his own I guess.

Auto plunge works fine on my pro.

Played one fresh out of the box last night. Saw plenty of plunge shots rattle and not make it up to the rollover lanes.

Also, lights in the rollover lane guides were flickering and dim and bright. Doubt it is a game feature.

Hard shots from the right flipper to the inline drops usually fail to drop the targets. Softer hits from a left flipper backhand seem much more successful

The up post that stops the ball on a left orbit shot would consistently send the ball back down the left orbit path. I didn't like how this felt. (preference I guess)

After less than 50 games, I noticed very clearly how beat up the solid block in front of the captive ball was becoming.

I felt like the hammer obstructs too much of the view to the electric chair shot.

Quite a few airballs from the electric chair area that landed in the left orbit.

Lots of little stuff but no game stoppers. We had a blast and will continue to. Very fun game!

Loved the game. Had lots of fun

Yesterday I cut a square piece sided felt with adhesive and placed it on the face of the metal block.
It protects the block and slows the ball down for the the hammer magnet.

Says the guy who likes a dirty pin. Drop the bias and just realize AC/DC has a cheap drain or two, oh well and so be it. It can still be a great pin with a solid theme and great play other than a couple of shots. It's not being singled out as the only pin with cheap drains.

Every time the ball comes down the right orbit with speed it hits the right slingshot and never makes it to the right flipper smooth for a wrap around shot..

I'm sure you did this already, but is it nice and level side to side?

The option is the deadening foam strip but I think it would slow the ball down too much.

Are the Pinball Life premium polished balls different from Marco's Silverjet premium polished balls?

Marco states that their high polish balls can get magnetized if the game they're in has magnets. Is it just that one brand of premium ball or is it all highly polished balls?

The standard balls from Marco, Bay Area or Pinball Life are all superior to the junkers that Stern has been sending out with new games though.

Rock Fantasy LE same problem with Autoplunger

What's with sterns auto plungers lately? Reports of this on ACDC, avengers, and now MET.

Piss off ! You going to fight your buddies fight ?

No, but your hostility is mind boggling. I never understood why you take to personal attacks so often, especially if you do a lot of pinball related work. I've seen your work, and it is great, but I wouldn't ever send you anything because you are so hostile and I don't want to get in that gunfire. It seems like if anyone comments negatively about a pinball you like then you just rip them apart personally. Accept people's opinions man. You don't have to agree with them, but sheesh, chill.

cubarna? caribou? carnival? I'm so confused....

Nope. Novus 2 isn't a spray. It's an abrasive paste cleaner. Novus 1 is a spray cleaner (nonabrasive), and should be all you need to clean a new playfield for a lot of plays. Can even use it to wipe down a waxed playfield to remove light residue. And it's great on plastic ramps.

Being that I am thinking about getting a premium this is making me think this whole thing over again.

Mine did this too and I looked at a friends ball guide and realized mine was slightly out of place. I Undid the last screw that holds that ball guide in place and moved the end of the ball guide over slightly and loop shots work perfectly.

I would never consider doing any work for you ever. I only do work for my friends .

Never had an issue. Mind you I spray it on, leave it for a few minutes, then wipe it all off.

If you left it on there long term (why would you do that?) then maybe there could be an issue.

Interesting thread on an aircraft forum about it:
http://www.backcountrypilot.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5115

Everyone I know uses Simple Green to clean their machines, including a very top end restorer.

rd.

Well, then we settled that one

These orbit/lane guide adjustments should be done for EVERY game (where needed) to give smooth non-sling orbit shots and avoid stdm drains from weak ramp shots, etc. The lane/ramp/orbit guides can often be bent slightly (if metal) when there's no screw adjustability.

Concerning your #4 issue (Ball launch is inconsistent). I was having this same problem on my Pro. After a couple of weeks I noticed that the plunger tip was hitting the ball high and to the right (in the 2 o'clock area). I lifted the pf and adjusted the plunger rod to where it hits center of ball. No more problem. Good luck.

To me this game just feels like a clunky mess right now. That fucking orbit post rejects about 90% of the shots from both orbits, and from the plunger and autoplunger. The snake mouth rejects shots about 50% of the time. The magnets for the hammer and for Sparky often do not grab the ball. I'm honestly pretty disappointed right now, all of these things added up just make it a frustrating experience so far. Reminds me of Avengers honestly.

That sucks but I can see how you feel that way . Mine is getting better as it breaks in and I need to tweak a few things . Other than that I feel we will have a good game , AC/DC good ? Don't know yet . I still have not achieved Coffin multiball and I am approaching 100 games .

Hope you can feel better about it soon.

I'm sure I will, just right now I'm a bit soured on it. For now, I'm probably just going to disable the orbit post, even though that means I'll barely get any pop bumper action. I really hope Stern figures out a reasonable solution for it. They also need to increase the magnet strength (hopefully they can). I need to look at the Snake mechanism and see if there is a way to adjust the lower part of the snake mouth.

you do know that the snake requires TWO hits each time?

I was actually using simple green on my toy hauler
Trailer and experienced this "etching effect" on some of
The aluminum, but I had bought the concentrate
That you dilute with water... Maybe I mixed it to strong
Not sure.

Magnet for the Hammer is the software...it will be fix in the next codes,its not correcly timed.
Snake: first time it opens the mouth second time in the mouth.
For the autoplunger...ya,does it to me also

Magnet strength was an issue in the first couple codecs of xmen too. It's solid now.