Metallica (Premium)
Stern, 2013Quoted from tomdotcom:Okay jokes over just shattered the first inline drop Fuckaroo!! Damn!!!
I want this game so bad, but I've read so many things that remind me of the shit I went through when I received AC/DC. Until Stern gets their QC together, I'll save my money.
Hey Stern. Get your shit together so I can give you my money 
Quoted from hank35:Hey Stern. Get your shit together so I can give you my money
Well, considering the fact that they sold out of the LE's in about an hour I can just about hear Gary's response...
"Hey Hank, keep your money! We don't need it!" 
That attitude would suck for us. But I don't think they feel that way. My AC/DC had several problems and they just replaced parts until it was working, finally the CPU board. Most of the stories on Pinside reflect that is what they do - fix problems.
What we 'should' do is wait a year for them to fix everything and get it all tweaked and buy a premium, but who can do that? 
Quoted from teekee:Well, considering the fact that they sold out of the LE's in about an hour I can just about hear Gary's response...
"Hey Hank, keep your money! We don't need it!"
Yeah.. yeah.. I'm sure that's what he's saying.
QC is a serious issue for real customers that aren't planning a quick flip for profit. Pump and dump only works if the product is in high demand (or the illusion of high demand). I guess your protestations are meant to gloss over flaws in an effort to pump..?
Quoted from heckheck:Yeah.. yeah.. I'm sure that's what he's saying.
QC is a serious issue for real customers that aren't planning a quick flip for profit. Pump and dump only works if the product is in high demand (or the illusion of high demand). I guess your protestations are meant to gloss over flaws in an effort to pump..?
Yes to everything you said, especially the one about the prostitutes! 
Quoted from Pinchroma:Because he was permanently banned. Now he's back peddling crap under a different name.
Yes it has been confirmed from his return address and his paypal account!
Quoted from AkumaZeto:Yes it has been confirmed from his return address and his paypal account!
Mods?
The two we have (for the 1up / 2up) had no problems other than a different screw missing on each playfield. Today we will set one up at the 1up and tomorrow one at the 2up. If we have any probs ill post.
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Quoted from eXidy:The two we have (for the 1up / 2up) had no problems other than a different screw missing on each playfield. Today we will set one up at the 1up and tomorrow one at the 2up. If we have any probs ill post.
I like the one on the left better 
Quoted from teekee:Well, considering the fact that they sold out of the LE's in about an hour I can just about hear Gary's response...
"Hey Hank, keep your money! We don't need it!"
That's the attitude that can eventually kill a business.
Quoted from TomGWI:That's the attitude that can eventually kill a business.
Absolutely! But I think these issues have always and will always be a part of pinball no matter who manufactures them. Most of the issues are small and can be dealt with. The small ones will never completely go away. The big issues are the ones they have to avoid and get better at...
Quoted from eXidy:Im hoping stern mixes it up a little. 3 levels (lower and upper), some laser lights, running lights around the inside of the cabinet, levels shifting up and down.. SOMETHING NEW GODDAMN IT!!!
Yes all that in a Horror Theme,Thanks!!!
The goodie bag should have come with an extra drop target.
Quoted from teekee:Well, considering the fact that they sold out of the LE's in about an hour I can just about hear Gary's response...
"Hey Hank, keep your money! We don't need it!"
Gary can tell me whatever he wants. I'd love to chat with him as I think Sterns eventually downfall will be not listening to the Voice of The Customer.
What do I really want from Stern on this LE? - I expected a better powder coat for sure.
I expect more code updates for sure. I hope we get the damn X-men update which I hear is garbage and that's why it did not get released. Heard new code only did lame combos and was shelved.
I think other than that we need to rely on cliffy or someone else to protect that captive ball. The game itself is awesome. I just wanted to share some things that need attention if you want to keep the machine pristine in hopes that it holds value.
Quoted from hank527:The goodie bag should have come with an extra drop target.
Gary can tell me whatever he wants. I'd love to chat with him as I think Sterns eventually downfall will be not listening to the Voice of The Customer.
What do I really want from Stern on this LE? - I expected a better powder coat for sure.
I expect more code updates for sure. I hope we get the damn X-men update which I hear is garbage and that's why it did not get released. Heard new code only did lame combos and was shelved.
I think other than that we need to rely on cliffy or someone else to protect that captive ball. The game itself is awesome. I just wanted to share some things that need attention if you want to keep the machine pristine in hopes that it holds value.
Hank, I was responding to Hank35 not Hank527... lol, confusing!
Everyone has to make up their mind about whether to buy these things or not. I honestly never see a day when issues are completely gone or even mostly gone. I'm sure they can get better but they will always be far from perfect. Manufacturing in general is subpar anymore.
Maybe the best think to do for some is just not buy NIB and buy them HUO... those are less work, more headache free, dialed in... who knows.
Quoted from teekee:Absolutely! But I think these issues have always and will always be a part of pinball no matter who manufactures them. Most of the issues are small and can be dealt with. The small ones will never completely go away. The big issues are the ones they have to avoid and get better at...
Very True.
I will say that my AC/DC Prem was from the last (March) run
And it was flawless 0 issues Stern seems to have that game dialed in!
Quoted from eXidy:The two we have (for the 1up / 2up) had no problems other than a different screw missing on each playfield. Today we will set one up at the 1up and tomorrow one at the 2up. If we have any probs ill post.
Exidy,
Pics of you drinking a Latte on that MOPLE or it didn't happen
Quoted from teekee:Hank, I was responding to Hank35 not Hank527... lol, confusing!
Everyone has to make up their mind about whether to buy these things or not. I honestly never see a day when issues are completely gone or even mostly gone. I'm sure they can get better but they will always be far from perfect. Manufacturing in general is subpar anymore.
Maybe the best think to do for some is just not buy NIB and buy them HUO... those are less work, more headache free, dialed in... who knows.
Waiting may always be better, but I'm an addict. Avengers LE was ridiculous on how much needed to be done to it. Metallica does not need much work just preventative maintenance.
If I'd buy a HUO I'd risk getting a subpar machine someone did not protect, did not wax and beat to hell. Or I could get something someone spent hours on making it perfect. Right now I'd choose to buy NIB.
The powder coating sucks because its 500 pinball machines and probably would have amounted to Stern spending an extra $2.00 per machine. Just saying. I do question what we actually are getting for that extra $$. Le vs Premium is a $700.00- $900.00 price difference
We get a kick ass mirrored back glass and Armor.
Quoted from Concretehardt:I will say that my AC/DC Prem was from the last (March) run
And it was flawless 0 issues Stern seems to have that game dialed in!
same here. acdc premium build date may17, 2013 was perfect out of the box. hope premium metallica will be good to me as well.
Quoted from hank527:Just saying. I do question what we actually are getting for that extra $$. Le vs Premium is a $700.00 price difference
We get a kick ass mirrored back glass and Armor.
LE's are geared towards the collectors. The Limited Edition 1 of 500 means a lot to them. If it doesn't mean much to you and the different artwork is not a factor then the Premium is the way to go... honestly your paying for the collectibility factor that Stern and WE have built into it.
Quoted from teekee:LE's are geared towards the collectors. The Limited Edition 1 of 500 means a lot to them. If it doesn't mean much to you and the different artwork is not a factor then the Premium is the way to go... honestly your paying for the collectibility factor that Stern and WE have built into it.
if they are "geared for the collectors" then you must be a collector teekee. maybe they are more "geared for the flippers" is what you really meant.
i hope you make a huge profit on "collecting" your le 
Quoted from hank527:The goodie bag should have come with an extra drop target.
What all does come in the goodie bag?
Quoted from pingod:I like the one on the left better
No way man, you're wrong! The one on the right is clearly the better one!
Has anyone put flashers in their backbox? I think game would look cool with a flasher for each of the members and a few more added. I know one or two companies offer flasher backbox kits.
You'd have to determine which flasher solenoid to drive each lamp (17-24 or 25-32) that made sense in gameplay.
Quoted from teekee:"Hey Hank, keep your money! We don't need it!"
I hear you Tony, and for the most part, I agree with you...if in fact I was the only person hesitant to buy Metallica or any future Stern pin for that matter.
But, what if there were two of us...or possibly 100. That's quite a chunk of change Stern's not getting.
Got mine,#47 No issue and it works great,plays great!!
I am getting better at it,takes a while to know the machine the shots are awesome
not to hard or too easy,i am like a little kid in a Candy store.
Quoted from Pinchroma:he's back peddling crap under a different name.
The only person who should be allowed to change their name and peddle crap is AlexLevy... Oops, I mean 'PinChroma' 
No one cares anymore. 
Besides that, competition is GOOD for pinball, or is that only correct when supporting JJP?
This silliness is getting hard to keep up with!
Left flipper dyed when the flipper was held up for about 10 seconds on my machine
3 amp fuse blew
I replace the fuse, the flipper energized and the fuse blew again with the flipper in the up position
I will call the distrib. tomorrow
What needs to be replaced ?
Thank you
Did the Metallica LE's come with regular playfield supports instead of the short ass crap pegs they started putting on a few years ago?
Quoted from c2scanada:Left flipper dyed when the flipper was held up for about 10 seconds on my machine
3 amp fuse blew
I replace the fuse, the flipper energized and the fuse blew again with the flipper in the up position
I will call the distrib. tomorrow
What needs to be replaced ?
Thank you
Bad transistor. That sucks man.
Quoted from eXidy:Im hoping stern mixes it up a little. 3 levels (lower and upper), some laser lights, running lights around the inside of the cabinet, levels shifting up and down.. SOMETHING NEW GODDAMN IT!!!
even 2 levels would be ok, as long as the real pinball is used
not a tiny plastic shit ball :<
Quoted from eXidy:The two we have (for the 1up / 2up) had no problems other than a different screw missing on each playfield. Today we will set one up at the 1up and tomorrow one at the 2up. If we have any probs ill post.
Hey Exidy, Can you post your serial #s in the LE serial # thread? Thanks and games look great!
anyone else noticing that captive ball mech being beat to hell?
I forgot to take pics but mine is starting to widen from the beatings. I think someone is going to figure out a way to get a proper captive ball in this game
Quoted from hank527:anyone else noticing that captive ball mech being beat to hell?
I forgot to take pics but mine is starting to widen from the beatings. I think someone is going to figure out a way to get a proper captive ball in this game
Hank, I wonder if it would help if you put a piece of drop dead foam on the captive box to help deaden the impact and prevent wear? A similar idea was used on the Elvis houndog target and it works quite well.
Quoted from hank527:anyone else noticing that captive ball mech being beat to hell?
I forgot to take pics but mine is starting to widen from the beatings. I think someone is going to figure out a way to get a proper captive ball in this game
Hank,
What area is widening. Can you take a pic?
Quoted from Pinchroma:Hank,
What area is widening. Can you take a pic?
The Captive ball square aluminum mech. Its starting to wedge out from repeated hits. A thin piece of drop foam may work well. I will try that
Here is my custom trim powder coated . Picking my game up today #21 to next to my LTBR #21
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Quoted from tatman9999:Here is my custom trim powder coated . Picking my game up today #21 to next to my LTBR #21
Looks great man. Have a great weekend and play a few games for me.
Quoted from tatman9999:Here is my custom trim powder coated
Beautiful~! 
Quoted from tatman9999:Here is my custom trim powder coated . Picking my game up today #21 to next to my LTBR #21
LUCKY !
Quoted from haunted1:Looks great man. Have a great weekend and play a few games for me.
Thank I will.
My Metallica LE shipped yesterday. Hope its early next week. Headphone kit time
Lorenzo
Pinnovators.com
Quoted from lllvjr:My Metallica LE shipped yesterday. Hope its early next week. Headphone kit time
LorenzoPinnovators.com
My headphone kit is standing by for review. My wife and I will love it. I cant hear her and she cant hear me!
Ah why didnt Borg do this? Trim looks like it was meant to be. I bet James H orders a set. Is the color a perfect match?
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Canton, OH
Calgary, AB
So it stays in the box for now.