Yeah, awesome amount of awards coming up. I worded my point badly. I'm earning the award, but I thought a couple of times that it didn't advance the actual score. Will test further.

Okay. Now I get you. Remember that the points awarded may be added before the award amount is shown on the display. Glass off should confirm.

I noticed back with 1.22 that the fuel meter would advance before the animation and all when the mystery awarded me a fuel award. So its very probable that the score is being advanced before the animation say you get a 2m award for ex.

A couple times now i have shot the scoop when both mystery and CIU were lit. The mystery awarded me the last letter to spell metallica, and started lady justice ramp mode. Then the CIU mode started too. Im still learning the CIU mode rules, but it seemed very confusing. Maybe this isnt a bug but it seemed like i was in an unintended combo of stacked modes.

CIU cant be started from within the multiball modes right? I think the scoop light for CIU goes off until you are back in single ball mode.

Interested to see if same happens for single ball modes like double scoring, lady justice, seek/destroy. My guess is that SIU could be stacked?

It seems like scoring features like Fuel, 2x, and Lady Justice can be stacked with CIU. Not sure if you can start Lady Justice or S&D while within CIU though...you mght have to start those first and then start CIU. I've definitely started 2x while in it....pretty sure I started Fuel while in it.

You can bring justice and I think SnD into it but you can't start it in CIU. Fuel might be able to start in CIU that I can't confirm. 2x for sure can

Yup, it's super satisfying to get that jackpot built, hit 2x, then collect! Scores are WAAAAY huge on Met now due to CIU.

I figured out a trick, I mean strategy, when plunging the super skill shot with left flipper button pressed in and going for the one lane that has the cross, snake, and sparky flashing on it. That lane doesn't light until ball leaves shooter lane switch, so if you hold left flipper button and do a very light plunge, that lane will reveal itself. If it's on right half of the pf then I re-plunge ball all the way around pf. If lit lane is on left side of pf, then I replunge ball softly so it comes down right side of pf to right flipper which is an easier shot for me. The timer on this is short, so this all needs to be done quickly. Also, if it's on left side of pf, then I may decide to just go for 2x or 4x skill shot in top lanes.

I've some particularly weird hammer issues after loading the update:

In order:

1: First the hammer would phantom hit almost constantly (every 5-10 seconds once the lock was lit). This was accompanied by a "Neeerrrow" noise, which I assumed was a notifier that the lock/magnet was active. I looked in the readme and changed #80 to "Yes", and this stopped the phantom hits.

2: The ball would now lock on the magnet with roughly the same (maybe slightly better) frequency as it did in 1.22 (50-60% of the time), and then drop into the coffin via the hammer as expected.

3: After a few more games, I noticed positive locks on the magnet, but no hammer activity or ball lock. The ball would stop clean on the magnet, hover there for a second or two, and then drop off into play with no noise, no late hammer hit, nothing.

4: I did not change settings after this, and after a few more games now the ball will not stop on the magnet at all, and that "Neerrrow" noise (best I can do at describing it) is playing constantly (again I assume notifiying me to lock the ball).

I have the original magnet board installed in the game currently.

WTF?

The original board is defective, so rather than ponder it just call Stern for the replacement. If that doesn't fix it then worry about it.

I'm not sure if is a bug or I might just need to check my connections in the ball trough. Every grate ounce in a while when I do the super skill shot, just after the ball hits a target or what ever it kicks me out another ball. Two ball multi ball? There is no indications that this is supposed to happen. Any one have a similar issue?

I have seen the same thing on my MET Pro. It has got to be some sort of glitch in the game...
Mine was doing it on version 1.22 and I have seen it already happen again in 1.5.
If you find anything out, please let me know.

You just answered your own question. NO ONE should have the original board in their game at this point. Call Stern, get the new one...these problems will go away.

I have Adult content set to "off" and sparky let out an uncensored "F#8K" at the start of Battery- in CIU.

Either I didn't notice this before or it's new, but if I drain on/after a "danger" warning from a hard nudge there's a decent delay (with no sound) in waiting for the next ball to be served (almost like a tilt). Is this normal?

Has anyone put together a rule sheet for METLE?

So this is not a software glitch. It's caused by a switch hit registering that shouldn't. Perhaps the ball trough is not stable and balls are moving around slightly. Or your trough jam board connector is slightly loose.

Not yet,we are waiting on Movingpicture to do it!

Nothing changed here. You never could start Coffin MB when another MB was already running. You can start any of the 3 MBs when Coffin is running. Edit: maybe you could on the Pro before, but never on the premium/LE.

Those are combo shots.

You don't have to hit the 4 shots 15 times. You get credited with shots when you hit one of the 5 main shots that have the corresponding inserts already lit (completed). For example, if you select the right orbit and complete the hurry up for it, then hit the orbit 3 more times you will have completed the 15 shots for graveyard, chair and snake. That's 9 shots instead of 45 doing them individually. Add 15 hammer shots and CUI is lit. Grinding each shot is not the way to get CUI lit.

I had the same issue. If you have any mods hooked up to any triggers or switches it can cause that. If you have hooked's spinner mods do not attach them to the pick targets under the Pf. This will cause weird issues like 2 balls ejecting and slings randomly firing. Hope that helps.

This would most likely be related to how they were hooked up in relation to the diodes on the pick switch.

Ditto on this. I had my two small kids in the room while I was playing and one of those "Hell" quotes played. I was hoping stuff like that would have been bleeped with Adult Mode set to OFF.

They dont ever bleep the music right? Just the callouts?

Yeah come to think of it, I responded for Prem/LE when it looks like Pro has some significant changes. Even # 2 may be diff on my LE. I posted and then saw the (Pro) in your message (doh!)

The reason you can't start Coffin during a MB on an LE is because of the hammer. With more than one ball on the field, the hammer is disabled so it does not crush a 2nd ball as it is flying by when trying to lock a ball on the magnet. But for Pro maybe it is very different, so my comments above may not apply to the Pro at all. Except # 3 maybe. For that I still don't have as much time on the update as you do, so your experience counts. I think they are sort of like mini-wizard modes. And I wonder how they will impact tournament style play. CUI modes are very lucrative but dangerous as well since you cannot start a MB during a mode, which competitors always focus on.

Either way though the lighting on LE is amazing during some of the CUI modes.

I think Stern has taken a couple pages from WoZ and put them into MET and ST. The STLE lighting has the rainbow effect of millions of colors fading between each other, and now METLE has the darkened modes and lighting is so different it reminds me of the lights out modes in WoZ. So does STLE during Kobayashi as all the lights are out and you don't know if you have a kickback ready or not, and you don't know how many red matter targets are left for Black Hole to get add-a-ball. Love all of these effects in both games.

Haven't looked yet closely at adjustments but is it possible to make the game more IM like?

Thinking especially Coffin multiball - reduce number of hits quite dramatically?

Maybe with CIU - reduce to 10 as others suggested.

Wonder if the game would become more intense as focus would be on CIU ( Jericho IM ) and then end of line would be attainable in a shorter space of time ( DOD IM).

Only complaints are, I wish every swear was gone in family mode including hell and damn, I wish for a ciu ball save, and of course for a perfect hammer, or possibly if my extra coffin hits count towards the next lock instead of started counting after the ball is locked.

I can't find the CIU settings? What number adjustment is it?

Also I notice you can really reduce coffin hits so would get coffin multiball into the game much earlier. Good or bad - I don't know. Maybe get to CIU earlier?

And maybe switch on setting that lets you stack coffin plus other multiballs?

Yeah I hate having to shoot stuff to light other stuff. Every game should be like JD Supergame with constant 6 ball multiball and endless ball save.

Coffin is only 4 balls, so it should be much easier to start and stack.
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Only swear I've noticed in the music is the 'f word' on Fuel, and no, its not bleeped.

As an aside, a friend of mine in high school had a VERY strict mother regarding what he listened to. When Garage Inc was released, I intentionally bought him a copy from WalMart so all the swearing would be bleeped out. Instead of bleeping the bad words, they just cut out ALL AUDIO. The WHOLE TRACK dropped for a split second. Songs like 'Last Caress' were pretty hilarious at that point. Terrible editing decision... haha... He also watched 'Pulp Fiction' for the first time with me, edited for television. I remember Vincent Vega, when he gets back to Wallace's house with Mrs. Wallace, he goes into the bathroom and says he's just going to go home and 'cool' off *hand making a jacking motion*. We used that line for the next few years of high school... haha...

My mother was pretty strict also. It was weird how she would select the things she was picky about because we could watch R-rated movies, but music with language in it was forbidden. Anyway, she confiscated all my Metallica CDs. I'm not sure what she thinks of the Metallica pin in my basement now. She hasn't made any comment on it.

To stay on topic, I have a nit-picky "maybe bug" on the Pro. During the startup to Chair Multiball, the cross insert on the left ramp does not light up during the progression of lamps up the playfield. It works fine at all other times.

I am also getting this since the 1.5 update. Never happened before. Also... I hit the captive ball today and lost all flipper response like I'd lost a ball. Then flipper power returned. The ball trough issue is happening a bit though.

I have no mods installed.

This is your error - the multiballs aren't only for jackpots anymore - They are the tool to achieve easier CIU. It's not an either/or decision - its one to get to the other imo.

This is where the risk/reward in the early game is popping up imo - you can play the MBs as before, and achieve a decent score (and have a lot fun as all the MB's are taking on an attitude and playstyle of their own in the new code). But with CIU on the table, you can ignore or sideline the MB goals in favor of shooting shots for CIU progression which can be MUCH more lucrative, but has a risk of being under realized on poor play later on. It's actually pretty easy to get into one or two CIU modes in a game playing this way, BUT you won't do overly well in most MB's as far as super jackpots or anything. For an example, I usually come out of my first MB with at least 2-3 inserts lit for CIU if I'm playing even half well.

I don't think the game is quite 'perfect' in terms of balance yet (the requirements are definitely on the challenging side) but there's a lot more decision making in the preliminary game I think a lot of people are overlooking - turning the CIU requirments down this early to me is indicating you want to play like you always have and expect 'more' to be offered once you're thru some multiballs. This update is (in my opinion) greatly altering how the game should be played from the first flip, and how the focus in and out of multiball shifts between playfield doublers, advancing to modes, adding inserts, add-a-ball, jackpots, Fuel, Justice, Hurryups, etc... Prior to this we just focused on one thing at a time in a multiball, and talked about how Seek and Destroy was a nice side attraction - well now you have like 2-3 other things to progress in multiball as well

Short version: If you play like we did on 1.22, you will not see CIU very much.

SR called it yesterday:

Concentrate on CIU and your scores should go up noticeably. Based only on the few games games I've played so far on the new software, I wouldn't be surprised to see CIU scoring toned down overall in the next update.

I hope not. Since they are one ball modes with no stacking or ball save they should score huge if played right.

Done above.

First time I have ever altered default settings.

My thoughts are that CIU is just too cool not to experience more often and getting it and then completing it is hard. Then doing all 4 to get to EOL is beyond me but CIU is best feature of game so will see what these settings are like.

got this on the second game after update

also skill shot is not skill shot : (

unless post disabled

Ummm...it most definitely is a skill shot. You disable the post by holding the left flipper button and try for the right lane up top. Starts out at 1M and goes up for each successful shot.

Has anyone had a issue when Sparky is ready for multiball and you shoot the ball up there and the magnet doesn't hold it to start multiball, but multiball still starts.

Yep. Happens on fast shots where the magnet doesn't grab. I use that time to shoot some extra shots as a free bonus. If you drain you get the ball back. Although, If you happen to hit sparky (maybe the mystery scoop too), while the multiball animation and flashers are running, it does abort the sequence and start the multiball.

My issue is that with the new code the ball doesn't always release from the magnet. Just kind of hangs there. Not a big deal as I use that time to make some shots. Vibration and another ball sent up that way knocks it free. Never ever had this hanging issue until this new code.

I have had this happen too. During multiball yesterday I had a ball on the magnet and shot another that circled the locked ball maybe two or three times. Not a glitch but it looked really cool.

But that's what I'm saying you are in error about - CIU is NOT a sideshow, it's a main course. If you play as per 1.22 and just hope you light CIU you're never going to consistently get there. That's how I played most of the first night I had 1.5 installed and I was frustrated at how hard it seemed to get into the deeper parts of the code. a day or two later I realized CIU has to be a (or even THE) priority in your MB play.

TLDR : Maybe I'm playing the game differently than you and have a different approach.

You're playing the same as I did in 1.22. You can't keep doing that and expect 1.5 to show you it's potential. (my opinion obviously )

Edit : I should mention I put a lot of time into it Friday/Saturday but stopped afterwards. Been focusing on some other stuff. When I get back into it I'll try going balls to the wall with CIU. When I did play, I was able to consistently start 2 CIU's per game no problem, sometimes 3. I should try to keep an eye on CIU focused scoring VS just playing it the 'old' way. I've got some pretty screamin' scores to beat from the 'old' way.

Bingo! I'm not saying the balance is perfect, but once I broke out of the 'multiball rinse repeat' mode of play, the game changed drastically.

Agreed. I think there will be some leveling off between the individual CIU modes (personally I think For Whom the Bell Tolls is way easier and higher scoring than any other at this point - maybe I'm wrong?) but overall I wouldn't expect CIU mode as a whole to be drastically nerfed unless the requirements for qualifying it drop accordingly.

What I really like about CIU mode is that you can get out of it almost any time. If you light the scoop, you can cash out and carry on regular play if things get hairy (assuming you can shoot the scoop, which I really can't at this point haha)

When you hit the coffin and it shows "X shots left to capture" or whatever, I wish the "X shots" part was bigger and easier to quickly glance at. It has like 3 lines of small text and I almost never look at that screen because it takes too long to scan given how quickly the ball is usually flying back after that shot. I mostly find myself shooting at or near the hammer and not really knowing when it's ready, but crossing my fingers that it will lock the ball.

Speaking of the hammer--is there a visual cue when it's ready to go that I'm missing? I'm not the only one who has that problem...visitors love when the ball gets smashed into the PF, but there's frustration in some people not knowing how to make it happen or when it's supposed to happen, which is too bad because it's one of the coolest toy ideas of all time.

These aren't strictly 1.5 related, but because there's so much more going on with the DMD now I'm finding myself getting kind of fatigued...maybe I just need to get used to the new rules, but I always had some trouble with that coffin lock screen because of the small text.

The CIU modes are awesome. I haven't seen anything this good since TV Wizard mode on FG. Nice work Lyman !!

It will say "Lock is lit" when its ready. How to get it to lock is another question