My hammer is grabbing way better now on 1.2 + No phantom hits

"- Added adjustments and code to work around certain magnet boards that
have trouble detecting the presence of the ball while the ball is being
held (magnet being duty-cycled). Set game adj. #73 (ABORT HAMMER/LOCK
SW. ACTIVITY) to NO (default is YES) to restore the behavior as it was
in V1.16. "

I could imagine that maybe Lyman did work on the modes, but he doesn't want to release a version where one or a few modes are available and the rest is lacking. Or maybe some modes are already programmed but not finished yet? Just something(s) I could see happening, no idea if there's any truth in it. I wouldn't worry too much if I had a new game that Lyman is the programmer for.

Mines the same

I'm thinking this too...
Modes are probably gonna take a lot of time to develop and probably change a lot before ever being released. I'm hoping Lyman is allowed to concentrate on the modes and the 'cool' part of the software while maybe others are handling the mechanical software issues.

From what I've read is seems like the magnet should be using a bunch more sensors. I'm picture 4 eddies in a square approx 1 inch from the center of the magnet.

This fixed my issue. Code is working great now, glad I did not go back to 1.16, thanks for the advise! Just put up 126,xxx,xxx on 1.2 and not a single false hammer. Disabled the orbit loop post #68, its kick ass. Finally got something else out of the mystery hole other than 500,000K, add fuel. I was 2 shots away from having all band members in one ball, really wanted to see what would have happened, SUX!

That's because you got the $13,000 model

I don't think this would work very well in practice, but i could be wrong. Eddy sensors detect fluctuations in their magnetic field right? So putting them around a magnet to detect a ball might result in piles of sensing errors? (I know the magnet isn't always on, but when it fires, boom, eddy sensor might think there's a ball there erroneously? I guess this could be ignored by software though for the firing period + small grace period as the field collapses). I'm just spitballin'...

I'd be interested in hearing what type of balls people are using, ie - factory, PBL normal or high gloss, silverjets, etc... I wonder how much of an effect the ball type would have on sensing?

I've had games where it would do it three or four times on the same ball,with new code 1.2
Rarely did it on the last code.

1.2 doesn't feel or act much different than the 1.18 version, the hammer lock is still hit and miss, better than the 1.16 code but not perfect.

Just finished up a game. Sixteen hits to the hammer, and no balls locked. Had one phantom hammer drop at 14, but that's it. Had the EB lit without a ball locked.
To say it has gotten worse now at 1.2 is an understatement...

my hammer was nearly perfect on 1.16 and I get phantom hits all the time and rarely lock a ball on 1.2. the ball could be in the pops or on an inlane and the damn hammer is swinging down. In fact a couple times I smacked the hammer with the ball when it was in the down position. it's clearly not designed to withstand ball hits.

I like the progression of some of the stuff, but bummed out about the hammer in 1.2

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Did this, now all is good

1.2 made it worse for me, with my magnet problems.
On 1.2, if I have setting 73 to "Yes", my hammer will drop and lock over and over when the lock is lit.
I had the ball in the shooter lane and the magnet was firing, hammer dropping and lock dropping over and over. I had to set that to No just to go back to the old way of barely locking balls.
Since the new magnet control board didn't help, hopefully Stern will have some more things for me to try. Very frustrating.

I switched 73 to no. Game is back to awesome.

I am using PBlife glossy ones or whatever they're called.

Sparky MB is now 10 hits on factory settings. Wasn't it 6 or 8 before? 1.2 seems harder. I'm bringing it down to 8 hits.

Coffin mb is 5 plus 10 plus 10 hits to start. 25 hits total.

There are menu options for EOL now.

The EOL adjustments have been in there since 1.03 (possibly earlier); if you're referring to :

(these are from 1.03)
E.o.L. starting Grave Markers (50)
E.o.L. additional grave markers (10)
E.o.L. starting electric chairs (50)
E.o.L. additional electric chairs (10)
E.o.L. starting coffins (50)
E.o.L. additional coffins (10)
E.o.L. starting snakes (50)
E.o.L. additional snakes (10)
E.o.L. M.B. autofire timer (20 seconds)

Loving the new code. Seek & destroy was already a super fun mode, now it's super rewarding too. Just put up 358m with 150m seek & destroy champ. I had at least one S&D jackpot over 27m. Coffin + electric chair + seek & destroy + add-a-ball + double scoring = WOW.

Pretty sure it was always 10

Yeah man, seek and destroy gave me like 68 mil first time around. Huge payoffs there if you can stack it in with everything. On 1.16 my GC was 316mil I'm expecting big things now haha

anybody get the attract music option to work. I got it to work on the code before 1.16. It would start playing a song in its entirety after playing a game and letting it sit for a few minutes- was super cool- have not been able to get that to work with newer codes. Have not seen anything on this yet.

Can you start Seek and Destroy while in a mb? Or do you have to have S&D running before you start a mb?

No it can and does start in the middle of a multiball .

Thanks

Yes, the attract mode radio music works on the new code. You need to enable it in the settings as it is set to "off" by default when you install new code. Go into Service Menu > Adjustments > Game (Feature Adjustments) > Feature Adjustment #89 "Attract Mode Radio" > Change to "Yes".

Then, you should be able to hold down the right flipper button in attract mode, and the radio will pop up on the DMD.

It's always been 10. Shots to the target between his legs is worth 2x. So 5 well placed shots will start it.

Ah cool . Thanks for that . I was wondering why sometimes the multiball seemed to be ready a lot earlier .

The more I play it, the more I learn the rules, you can light coffin lock for a limited time by doing a few combo shots. You get to appreciate the game a lot more when you have a good game of stacking multiballs. I love how the game light show goes mostly blue or red when achieving certain goals or jackpots. I am loving the game the more I learn about it, I have maximum respect for Lyman. I am sure it will just get better.
Keeps it interesting changing songs for each multiball as well.
The coffin lock is not perfect, just adds to the challenge to try and lock the ball.

Are you sure the combos to coffin aren't the Seek & Destroy Hurry up?

Oh, you could be right, like I said I am still learning the rules

Just noticed my skill shot is awarded in the right lane when the left lane is lit too

Weird a simple thing like this is not yet fixed

Yep. That would be silly. Like WOF?

Fool me once, shame on Stern. Fool me twice, shame on me.

A cool mode would be Raise The Dead Mode!

lock two balls and then complete the grave marker 3 drops plus final shots to start raise the dead mode.

This is a two ball multiball in which shots to sparky give electric jolts to bring him back from the dead. "Clear! bzzzzzzzz" 5 jolts brings him back to life and awards an extra ball.

Add me to the list of frustrated people with 1.2 update. I am now getting multiple phantom hammer drops for no reason what so ever.
I plan on re-installing 1.16 where I did not have hammer drop issue....Man I hope they get this issue taken care of.
Hard to spend this kind of money on a game and have it have these types of issues after an update...starting to get disappointed.

after reading all this i think i will stay with 1.16, hopefully this game gets a proper update soon. keep people on this game until finished stern!

Does nobody read the readme? If you want 1.16 hammer behavior make the simple menu adjustment and enjoy the new code!

Do this if you have problem with new version

I've tried it both ways in ver 1.2, and it doesn't seem to make much difference that I can tell...

How is your machine acting?

What he said,I just changed the setting in menu
Works like it did in 1.16,kept the new code otherwise.
Lots of new stuff to see,and do

...and even if you don't read the readme, it's already been mentioned in this thread!

I love the Fuel and even more the seek and destroy...wow

way more fun now,i cannot wait to see other modes in there
All the Toys are awesome.Sparky and the Hammer/ciffin are insane.

Yeah fuel is just great now. Amazing what some extra dots and sound effects can do. Seek and destroy is very lucrative now and I find is a much bigger priority than before. I typically prioritized multiballs and happened upon seek and destroy every now and then, but I'm definitely picking and choosing shots to get into that mode at the right time now.

Silly question but is there a rule sheet anywhere (LE specifically)? I know with so many changes to the code it will be hard to keep updated but wondering if there is anything out there.

1.16 rules here..

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/metallica-rules-how-to-play-pro-v-106-rulesheet

Those rules are outdated.

Additions/Corrections:

Pound the captive ball (PRO) to build up locks for Coffin Multi-ball
Pound the newton block (LE/Prem) to build up locks for Coffin Multi-ball and hope for a hammer lock.

Hit pick targets during multiball to light snake (starts flashing). Lock ball in snake for ADD-A-BALL and 2x scoring for 20secs. Hit pick targets again to reset timer.

You are also missing some of the new snake rules and other stuff from 1.2....but it's the most up to date I've seen posted...

Haven't had time to update the rule sheet yet, but I will after PAPA.

Hopefully we will be beyond 1.2 by then

Changing that setting does nothing for me either.