Quoted from RobF:Not to worry! To ease your paranoia, I give a very generious 35 seconds to respond to the invoice before bumping people off the list
Thanks for the ticketmaster flashback. Refresh. Refresh. Refresh
Quoted from RobF:Not to worry! To ease your paranoia, I give a very generious 35 seconds to respond to the invoice before bumping people off the list
Thanks for the ticketmaster flashback. Refresh. Refresh. Refresh
Quoted from hoby1:Mine came in the mail today ……. Too bad I’m Traveling and won’t be able to check this out till Sunday
THX Rob!!!
I think you should cut your vacation short before it melts away in the package....that or forward it on to digitaldocc. He sounds more serious about adding it to his game haha.
Received today, installed today… Thanks again Rob! This is a must have mod for Metallica pro owners.
Quoted from JesseJames23:Received today, installed today… Thanks again Rob! This is a must have mod for Metallica pro owners.
Nice! I'd love to hear how the install went and if there is any feedback on the install instructions. Also any reviews of the mod itself would be great to see as more of these are getting out.
Quoted from RobF:Nice! I'd love to hear how the install went and if there is any feedback on the install instructions. Also any reviews of the mod itself would be great to see as more of these are getting out.
The only thing I noticed in the instructions that differed from my game was the screw count on the factory cross mount. Instructions stated 2. Mine had 3. Other than that it was very straight forward.
Quoted from JesseJames23:The only thing I noticed in the instructions that differed from my game was the screw count on the factory cross mount. Instructions stated 2. Mine had 3. Other than that it was very straight forward.
Instructions say 3 screws holding the cross mount to the PF and 2 screws holding the cross to the mount.
Are you saying this was different for your game?
Quoted from RobF:Instructions say 3 screws holding the cross mount to the PF and 2 screws holding the cross to the mount.
Are you saying this was different for your game?
Yes my cross had 3 screws holding the cross to the mount. Here’s a pic of my cross mount.
3A42CB79-B29B-41EF-B43D-722987529F81 (resized).jpegQuoted from JesseJames23:Yes my cross had 3 screws holding the cross to the mount. Here’s a pic of my cross mount. [quoted image]
Mine too. No big deal
All installed and working perfectly. A few pointers
1) Take your time with the install and it will go perfectly
2) Be extra carful when cutting zip ties and repositioning the factory harness as this will need to be done to make it fit correctly
3) Read and follow the instructions to the letter.
4) Did I mention ….. take your time!!!
It took me about and hour being extra careful and double checking everything
EXCELLENT MOD that’s very well done. Works perfect
Ah man I just saw this thread. I signed up for email notification on the website and will keep an eye on this thread!
If my connector parts show up as expected, I'll have more crosses to send out early next week. It is too bad Great Plains Electronics shutdown. I had to split my orders across multiple sources. It adds cost and pain...ugh. The long lead time chips are supposed to show up late December. That's when I'll start builds for the phase 2 (that's what I called it right??) pre-order 15-40 folks.
It's a bad ass mod dude! I hope u know there's probably 10k +/- met pros put there! Gonna keep ya busy! Sadly $160 usd is $219 in canadian money! Faak sakes!
I installed the mod today and it kicks ass! Works as it should, rising up at the start of MoP multi ball and goes back down when you end the multi ball. My biggest concern is the cross getting hit too hard by fast balls when all the targets are down and possibly breaking? The original metal bracket was removed and is now mounted to the plastic or whatever it is material that the new bracket is made of. Hopefully won’t be an issue but that cross could take a beating. Otherwise, excellent work and must have for pro owners.
Quoted from Lethal_Inc:I installed the mod today and it kicks ass! Works as it should, rising up at the start of MoP multi ball and goes back down when you end the multi ball. My biggest concern is the cross getting hit too hard by fast balls when all the targets are down and possibly breaking? The original metal bracket was removed and is now mounted to the plastic or whatever it is material that the new bracket is made of. Hopefully won’t be an issue but that cross could take a beating. Otherwise, excellent work and must have for pro owners.
Awesome. Gald you like it. I have played on mine for about 2 years and it hasn't broken. It also recently made it through 3 days at the NWPAS.
The one thing to be careful is your scores going south. Once installed, you end up completely focused on grave MB just to watch the cross go up and down
Good to hear. That’s no doubt about wanting to get that to go up and down to show it off. Jack fuckin pot tho!!
Quoted from Kenz:Can you add me to your list please.. Many thanks
Go here and add yourself to be notified when stock is available.
https://www.robtune.com/product/metallica-pro-rising-cross/
-Rob
Two more crosses ready to go;
@grizlyrig
snakesnsparklers
Two additional updates;
1) After a few days of payment request I don't hear back from someone, I will cancel their order and move down the list.
2) I forgot to add the ziptie to the last few packages. Oops.
Robs rising cross mod is the real deal. Totally worth the wait.
Couple of tips on the install.
If your MET was wired managed like mine block out some time to tweak the wire runs. Don't rush.
If you zip tie have the zip connect on the side or it will rub/catch on the rise/fall. After I learned that lesson I put a dab of hot glue and it worked like a charm.
Other than that you will find yourself going fo those grave drop targets over and over. Sparky is no longer the new kid on the block.
Quoted from digitaldocc:Robs rising cross mod is the real deal. Totally worth the wait.
Couple of tips on the install.
If your MET was wired managed like mine block out some time to tweak the wire runs. Don't rush.
If you zip tie have the zip connect on the side or it will rub/catch on the rise/fall. After I learned that lesson I put a dab of hot glue and it worked like a charm.
Other than that you will find yourself going fo those grave drop targets over and over. Sparky is no longer the new kid on the block.
Looks so good! Thanks for the vid!
Quoted from RobF:Two more crosses ready to go;
I think I am in the high 40s so I wont be looking for it this year. So PM me also when I am up so I dont miss it.
Thanks for doing this looks great
Quoted from KJL:I think I am in the high 40s so I wont be looking for it this year. So PM me also when I am up so I dont miss it.
Thanks for doing this looks great
After 40 it will just be stock as available on the product page. If you are signed up for notification, you will part of the email blast.
Quoted from digitaldocc:Robs rising cross mod is the real deal. Totally worth the wait.
Couple of tips on the install.
If your MET was wired managed like mine block out some time to tweak the wire runs. Don't rush.
If you zip tie have the zip connect on the side or it will rub/catch on the rise/fall. After I learned that lesson I put a dab of hot glue and it worked like a charm.
Other than that you will find yourself going fo those grave drop targets over and over. Sparky is no longer the new kid on the block.
Thanks for the kind words and posting the video! That's a really good point about the zip tie orientation on the guide post. I added that later so the original in my game does not have one. I didn't think about the buckle part of the zip tie catching on the bottom of the playfield. I'll add a note to the instructions.
Four more crosses ready to ship and payment requests sent to;
@rts
@pinball4ever
@mg7322
RCA1
This concludes my original first batch builds. The good news is that I was able to squeak out two more than I estimated. Also good news is that my backordered chip parts are now expected mid Nov instead of end of Dec (or the current date of July'23!).
Quoted from RobF:Four more crosses ready to ship and payment requests sent to;
RTS
pinball4ever
MG7322
RCA1
This concludes my original first batch builds. The good news is that I was able to squeak out two more than I estimated. Also good news is that my backordered chip parts are now expected mid Nov.
I was ONE away from making the list this time. Dang it lol.
Quoted from aaron6920:I was ONE away from making the list this time. Dang it lol.
I can't believe I made the cut, for once.
I would have been fine waiting a couple weeks, but glad to be above the cut.
Recieved mine yesterday and installed it today.
The factory used oversize screws to secure the cross to the bracket, opening up the screw holes in the cross a bit. The screws in the mod kit were loose and didn't want to grab the cross. A couple pieces of toothpick in the screw holes corrected that.
Otherwise not a bad install and it's working great!
Thanks Rob!
Quoted from RCA1:Recieved mine yesterday and installed it today.
The factory used oversize screws to secure the cross to the bracket, opening up the screw holes in the cross a bit. The screws in the mod kit were loose and didn't want to grab the cross. A couple pieces of toothpick in the screw holes corrected that.
Otherwise not a bad install and it's working great!
Thanks Rob!
Mine didn’t come with the screws so I found some replacements- did the toothpick trick also and it’s snug and working great. I may add something behind the cross because when it’s down the flasher behind it will have direct line of sight and it’s bright - maybe something to hang from the plastic.
Quoted from RCA1:Recieved mine yesterday and installed it today.
The factory used oversize screws to secure the cross to the bracket, opening up the screw holes in the cross a bit. The screws in the mod kit were loose and didn't want to grab the cross. A couple pieces of toothpick in the screw holes corrected that.
Otherwise not a bad install and it's working great!
Thanks Rob!
The factory cross comes with threaded inserts. Were those inserts missing on yours or was it a replacement cross by chance? Maybe the parts changed over time?
Quoted from THEFOZ:Mine didn’t come with the screws so I found some replacements- did the toothpick trick also and it’s snug and working great. I may add something behind the cross because when it’s down the flasher behind it will have direct line of sight and it’s bright - maybe something to hang from the plastic.
All kits should come with two screws to mount the cross to the rising arm. Early kits had these in plastic bags. Lately I have been taping them to the mount.
Quoted from RobF:The factory cross comes with threaded inserts. Were those inserts missing on yours or was it a replacement cross by chance? Maybe the parts changed over time?
All kits should come with two screws to mount the cross to the rising arm. Early kits had these in plastic bags. Lately I have been taping them to the mount.
Mine was a replacement cross (indestructible thing on pinside). I didn’t see any screws but possibly I misplaced them. In any event - no big whoop and it’s working great!
Quoted from RobF:The factory cross comes with threaded inserts. Were those inserts missing on yours or was it a replacement cross by chance? Maybe the parts changed over time?
I'm not the original owner, so I guess that I don't know.
There were no threaded inserts, and the screws used were bugle head wood screws.
I figured that was what Stern had laying around when the game was built.
For future reference to all, the screws that are (should be!) included are specific undercut tapered so that once installed, they sit perfectly flush with the new mount. If they are not fully flush, they will interfere with the playfield cut out.
https://www.mcmaster.com/91099A205/
The expectation is that the cross has #6-32 threaded inserts. If yours are missing or you have aftermarket cross without them, it should be relatively easy to add new ones. If I ran into this problem, I would start with something like this; https://www.amazon.com/Z-LOK-Threaded-Insert-Plastic/dp/B08QJHYHYB/ref=sr_1_6
Quoted from THEFOZ:Mine was a replacement cross (indestructible thing on pinside). I didn’t see any screws but possibly I misplaced them. In any event - no big whoop and it’s working great!
Ah that explains it. Glad you worked it out.
Quoted from RCA1:I'm not the original owner, so I guess that I don't know.
There were no threaded inserts, and the screws used were bugle head wood screws.
I figured that was what Stern had laying around when the game was built.
Was it ever on route? This sounds curiously like an operator bodge job Happy you got yours working as well.
Quoted from RobF:Was it ever on route? This sounds curiously like an operator bodge job
No. I'm the second owner. First owner added a few mods, but I don't think he changed the cross.
Probably just a pinball mystery.
Quoted from RCA1:I'm not the original owner, so I guess that I don't know.
There were no threaded inserts, and the screws used were bugle head wood screws.
I figured that was what Stern had laying around when the game was built.
Do you have the original Metallica run with old wood speaker panel or the led run that had the new style speaker panel (metal and slanted backward)
Quoted from northvibe:Do you have the original Metallica run with old wood speaker panel or the led run that had the new style speaker panel (metal and slanted backward)
I have the newer Pro (Led), with the new style speaker panel.
Anyone share an install pic? My harness is in the way big time and the big magnet nut will dictate where the external board goes? Just curious.
All set, as above it will take about an hour or so to install. You do need to plan a strategy and look things over to get it to fit. You do need to move the harness a bit so the cross doesn’t hit it when it’s down. Great quality and design. A+
I received my chip parts a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I ran into unexpected technical issues with them. It turns out they are slightly different part numbers compared to what I had been using. While they are supposed to be functionally equivalent, I found they are much more picky electrically. I won't go into the boring details, but the good news is that I finally have it all sorted. Thankfully I found fixes that didn't require circuit redesign, which is appreciated since I had just received 100 pcbs. I came pretty close to having to chuck those all in the garbage. After some extra testing, I am ready to get back on track.
I will start sending out invoices and payment requests and have a handful of kits ready to ship out. Call it a Christmas miracle!
Quoted from RobF:I received my chip parts a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I ran into unexpected technical issues with them. It turns out they are slightly different part numbers compared to what I had been using. While they are supposed to be functionally equivalent, I found they are much more picky electrically. I won't go into the boring details, but the good news is that I finally have it all sorted. Thankfully I found fixes that didn't require circuit redesign, which is appreciated since I had just received 100 pcbs. I came pretty close to having to chuck those all in the garbage. After some extra testing, I am ready to get back on track.
I will start sending out invoices and payment requests and have a handful of kits ready to ship out. Call it a Christmas miracle!
Nice! Looking forward to it
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