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Memory Capacitor Fans - WPC support question

By Schwaggs

10 years ago


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    #11 10 years ago
    Quoted from Schwaggs:

    Some great information, thanks!
    I have been using the GPE 1.5F memory caps in my machines but was getting only 7-10 days of backup on my System 11 machine so I ordered a 4F cap and it has been working fine so far. I use straight jumpers over the blocking diode and haven't had any problems with that setup.
    The traces on the WPC board are much smaller than the System 6 and 11 boards so I will try using a 56 ohm resistor and report what I get. I will not be able to report how long the 4F cap lasts since I am playing the heck out of the game at the moment. I will post back when installed within the next few days or so...

    Just for reference, the resistor on a Bally board is 270 ohms between the battery and the RAM. Nobody changes that resistor, so 270 ohms would be a fine value to use.

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    #16 10 years ago
    Quoted from cfh:

    i've been experimenting with a Demo man and a cr2032 coin style battery. installed it about 6 months ago and it's still holding. that's like half way between doing a remote AA battery mod and a memory cap i guess.

    After seeing you do this a few times on Ninja videos i am now using all coin style batteries on all my boards. I really like that setup, cheap, easy, effective. My -35 and s6 test boards have been going on at least a year now with cr2032. I have probably sent out 100 MPUs with them installed and no reports of early failure yet. I just do bally and wms SS though.

    I did put a cr2032 in a TSPP to test as well. That is only going on 2 months though. We'll see.

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    #19 9 years ago

    There is a blocking diode already on the sys 11 board. You have to add a diode on a games that used a rechargeable batter, like early bally.

    I always check to make sure the diode isnt shorted when i install a cr2032.

    I am trying a cr2032 in a gtb 80b. I noticed the battery powers a few more ICs besides the RAM. 2 months or so and no problems yet. Voltage is steady.

    #22 9 years ago

    The ram is hard soldered in and the real time clock wouldn't run.

    Quoted from jamieflowers:just out of curiosity wouldnt it be easier to install one of those Ram chips that doesnt need power? I think Boryguard sells them.

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    #32 8 years ago

    For what its worth in my real world playing around. A 6264 ram holds data at 2v. Battery or cap under 2v and you start to get factory settings.

    A 5101 RAM holds data even lower. It will hold data at 1v and over. Also the 5101 RAM scrambles pretty slow. After 30 minutes of no battery, in a bally game half of the data will still be saved right.

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