Yikes 12.5k... depressing. Who would pay that for a routed machine? What has this hobby come to.

Holy *$%!

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Or you could get a WOZ ECLE and an X-Men for the same money.

my exact thoughts!

The bubble may be about to burst on MM.

Acdc prem and xmen nib= mm.

That mm has flipper wear on playfield. Could use a playfield.

Welp... Just added another machine to my " Can't Afford Even Heavily Routed" list ! This definitely isn't the Average Bill's hobby I might as well quit.

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Soon ads will read:

"I have a pinball machine. If you have to ask the price, then you can't afford it. Start sending me money now and I will call and tell you when to stop. Once all the money is received, I will forward you pictures of the pinball machine, then you can make arrangements to ship.

Yes i truly believe the current success the new pins on the block are having is going to reflect on the A list games halting in price and even dropping.

People are just gonna give up chasing these titles at the prices there at in favor of a NIB or even two!

Lots more exciting pins yet to come!

For the most part isn't that what happened with X-men?

I actually agree with you on this one. I've been chasing a TOTAN for a few months now. Had a couple of solid leads that just haven't panned out. In the last few days I starting wondering if I should just drop that pursuit and go for the newer machines.

Scott

I have. NIB from now on.

I played this pin recently plays great

That sure looks like the same machine that Pinball Warehouse in MN was hocking on RGP 6 months ago for 8.5K.

It has the same flipper wear spots that one did.

Thanks for the clarification.

If it had been listed for 11,500 it would have been sold by now for 10,500. The PF wear will scare off many. IMHO this is worth 10k easy in the current market, especially since it sounds like wayne will be selling MM screened playfields in the near future.

I still say it is wishful thinking if you honestly think that any top A list games are magically going to come down in price a couple thousand when WOZ and Xmen come out. It is not like the collectors that have them in their collections are liquidating them to make room for the new games (plenty of other lessor titles to clear out first). If that is the case, I will buy anything on the A list for 20% less than current market any day of the week and I am sure there will be a line of people in front of me looking to buy them also.

sorry man, it's not rock collecting for sure.

There's still, literally, hundreds of good-great titles out there for 1500$ or less.
You don't HAVE to own a mm, afm, mb etc to be happy owning pinball.
So my advice to you, is get over it.

For that price they couldn't put new foam rubber behind the yellow stand up targets ?

LTG

I still thought MM was in the 7-8k range? Now, overnight at 12k+?
Like some have said, the best deal in pinball is NIB stern. You're the first to open and play it, and they've been knocking some solid pins out overall.

It can be tough to buy a nib pin for 4 or 5k. That's a good used truck or car. In fact, I was looking at a real nice 02' LS1 Camaro for as much as a Tron cost. Tron won out, this time. But 12k+ for a MM? Think about it. That's a newer style Mustang GT. Car values go down, and pins have been up, yes. It's just a reality check.

^^ [@LTG] "you'll get nothing and like it!"

This hobby, getting nucking futs...

''That sure looks like the same machine that Pinball Warehouse in MN was hocking on RGP 6 months ago for 8.5K.

It has the same flipper wear spots that one did. ''

And if that is true, this tells all of us to just dump our collections, buy a MM, sit on it for 6 months and the price will jump up 4 grand more.

Take RawleyD's advice... Get Over IT !

No way that's the same machine Al was pedaling, Al's had WAY more flipper grind than this one...so I guess Al's router was a steal at $8.5 compared to this...

Absolutely, completely, and totally agree.

Face it everyone: MM and AFM are your crude-oil pins - skyrocketing in price for no apparent reason and not coming down anytime soon.

I'm too broke to take advise, I'll stick with common sense, fuh'g that!

This MM is definitely not the one Al had for sale.

This one until very recently was at the Lakeville Muller Theater.

LTG

Has the price on Cactus Canyon exploded as well? Last i checked, that was 9-11k avg

No matter where it was, I can tell you where it won't be - my house.

I doubt you'll see a DMD game for $1500 sooner then you think.. Maybe some old SS machines.. Just my opinion, but I think all the prices are going through the roof for no apparent reason.

Wish I would have bought a MM a few years ago for $7K, and I thought they were expensive then!

I dunno dude...I got XF, JM, and TFTC all for under $1500 (I lie, TFTC was $1600)..

ASKING PRICES typically aren't $1500, but when the cash hits the table, a $1500 pin becomes a "all I got is $1300"... "I'll take $1300!!!" pin real fast...

one year ago at pagg there was a perfect afm for 4,500. a monster bash that was just as nice for 6,000. now look at the prices on these. less than 2 years ago i picked up lw3 for 750 and people told me that was high. now i see them at 1,300. its gotten way out of control.

They seem to still be in that range from what I have seen

Not sure, don't really see them for sale that much. While in very limited quantities, the software/rules being incomplete has always been the thing keeping it down. It's still a rare collectible in our hobby so I believe it would be higher now, just like all other top end collectible pins (IE BBB).

Thanks for the clarification. Ill admit that was the first thing I thought as well. Did Pinball Warehouse even end up selling that? I would think they probably did.

these prices are ridiculous..its not that good.

You thought wrong.

I wouldn't say this if it was the actual owner trying to sell here...but since it is not: buying a routed MM over two new NIB's (WOZ, AC/DC, Tron, XMen - take your pick) is truly nuts. I like MM...great game in fact...but I wouldn't take a HUO only MM over any of two of those four machines I mentioned...much less a routed but "plays fine" machine.

Just wait till the JPop games start rolling out NIB...people will necro this thread laughing.

I hope so

12500 USD

Look to my gameroom pics, my fully restored MM where all ramps, flaps, screws, posts, etc are 24 k gold plated has been sold for less ! I installed new Cabdecal, original playfield without any wearings have been clearcoated, etc ... So I would see this MM around 6000 to 6500 USD only !

You're loco brutha!

I will buy ALL the MM's at $6500!

Serious too, if you want to sell me a MM at $6500 I will send you the cash today!

Ah yes, if only we could only go back in time. Some markets move fast on some pinheads.......
If Rick runs out of money for the supply of 6-6500 MM's, I will take the rest. CASH BUYER. Thanks.

My 2 cents.....the owner can ask whatever he/she wants. $7k cash would not touch mine, I was offered $11k and still own it. Problem isn't money, problem is my wife loves the game. Problem is finding one for sale......

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This is the thing that I was surprised about with MM / AFM exploding in price - I always thought that their prices were tempered by the NIB titles. I understand how these two might be able to command a $1k to $2k price above a NIB machine - they are consistent, long term route earners, and they are both really popular titles - but, when you can get two NIB LE machines for about the same price, it baffles me.

I do think that if we see more high quality machines from all manufacturers (JJP, Stern, even JPop) we'll eventually see the prices on a lot of the high end pop and come back down to $1k to $2k above NIB prices. I LOVE MM, but I'd take 90% of the Sterns from the last 5 years over one any day if price had no consideration and I wasn't selling.

Having said all that, good luck with the sale. It honestly doesn't seem priced that crazy to me.