What do you mean think it will be better? You should already know how MB compares to MM as they already exist, right?

Moved to B/W sub forum for the time being.

I'll wait for Rick at PPS to say that they will "definitely" be made.

Thread title is misleading. Curly didn't say "definitely" anywhere in his post. He said "looks like".

I'm so tired of the remake talk already.

You define "definitely" differently than I do.

I see nothing more than the same speculation that has been rampant here since Expo.

There is a loooooong ways to go. Just wait till the first one is out and all the different interested groups start the comparisons. That is going to make the current general discussions look like a fun mid day cup of tea.

No doubt… here we have another worthless post that we are all becoming so accustomed to.

Lock the damn thing now.

Wow we are in uncharted territory here! Crazy times if all these titles get remade I need to get a 2nd job and add onto my game room

This hobby is gunna push my projected retirement age to 75

Tell us something we did not know......................Of course they will be remade, why would they not??

Yes, gonna be awesome. Everyone will have the same row of remakes and stern will be out of business. Then PPS will run out of collectable games to re-run at inflated prices and we will have boutique companies left doing a game every 2 years (if enough people pre-pay)

Stern isn't going anywhere they have the market cornered on affordable games... Their Pro models are fun and much more affordable! Not everyone can dump 8 to 9k on a NIB game.

LOL! Any thread that might impact purchase prices of someones extremely high priced machines must be LOCKED!!!

Lets wait for the bean counters to have their say. If the beans aren't being counted, no machines will be made.

I read the entire thread. Absolutely nothing corroborates your thread title.

even if curly said they were 2 years out. so your holding off on STLE? wouldnt you want something tangible in the meantime?

No shit, give it a rest Tony, we all know you are the defender of high priced eye poking BS for your own self interest................

Shhhh, lock it down before the dummies figure it out!

They can remake all the 8k pins they want....I still ain't buyin'

5-6k might peak my interest on a couple of these......might.

The more the merrier ^_^

And if we assumed that this news was fact, and its not... Then why would a machine out in a couple of years have to do with buying a Star Trek today? You could buy the Star Trek, sell it later and buy a mb. Totally ridiculous thinking.

No doubt... we all know that buying 20 year old refakes for 8 grand a pop is a much better deal, LOL!

Send money now! They are almost sold out!

This thread can be locked now...

no need to lock the thread, teekee just needs to go .. Isent there a woz thread you need to s#i# on.

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Sorry, I was here first...

Is there an interpreter in the house?

Its pathetic that these guys are remaking 20 year old machines. Ever forward never backward.

You have a collection full of 20 year old games. Is that pathetic?

It is for some, yes.
But think that a lot of people will buy the remakes, and the prices on the "new" used machines will have to go down.
So if you'r always looking for something new in pinball (like me), these remakes are good news.

Seems like a lot of hype and B.S. with that post from Little Shop of Games that absolutely gives us no further *factual* information and has no purpose but to stir the shit pot.

Please, lets move on from all this crap.

I'm thinking the price point for future PPS pins will/should be 6500/7000...if they can't make em for that and earn a decent profit then the idea of "future PPS pins" might be in trouble.......I think there will be plenty of MMR's available as we get closer to launch!

Hey Teekee, you need to get over to that LTBR for sale thread in hurry, its down to 8500 obo and that 11k Nib LTBR you have might be a little pricey OR as you always say, the 8500 is "way tooooooo cheap"......for who?

Sorry dude, late to the party again. My NIB LTBR is sold...been sold.

$8500 is a great deal. Its just one of many great deals we've seen the past weeks. More to come!

Talk is premature now. Any future remakes will be hugely dependent on how well the MM game is received. If it's meh, that'll probably be the end of them.

By destroying the rarity and collectibility factor, these remake will have to sell on gameplay alone, and while AFM and MB are really fun, can they compete next to LCD and RGBLED games? I really would like a colorized Cactus Canyon, but do I want it more than JJPs 3rd game, or Steve Ritchie's next game with LCD and even nicer lighting? Probably not!

So if the profiteering part of the hobby is wrecked by remakes, are you going to start actually playing the machines, or find another hobby to flip pieces in?

My boy, I could flip dead grasshoppers for profit if I want to... yes, I'm that good.

So I guess we'll see you at the county fairs instead of the Ohio Show... have fun!

Of course they can. Not everyone is on a relentless hunt for something new and improved, it's okay to just like pinball. There's a lot more to the hobby than Pinside, and even here it's a specific slice that's only interested in the new hyped up announcements. Nothing wrong with liking new and improved either! Just that it takes all kinds, just like some people really only want System 11s.

Of course AFM, MB will be made - if all the MM'S get made.

Problem is the existing games already out there.. by 'compete' I mean would enough people spend 8K on a new AFM instead of 5K for a new Stern Pro game, when there will likely be cheaper, used AFMs available? They probably need to sell at least 1K units to make it a go.. and as fun as Star Trek pro is, I start to question the demand side of the equation...

Stern made their own bed. They aren't entitled to a customer base. It's their own fault for putting out products that are inferior to 20 year old designs in terms of both engineering and gameplay. The only reason these remakes are viable is because Stern has set the bar so low. It's kind of pathetic on Stern's part that these designs from the 1990s compare so favorably. At least MMRLE owners know they'll get a complete code out of the box.

I have it on good authority that the remakes will happen. My wife’s brother’s roommate has an uncle that is dating a chick who knows a guy that’s cousin works for Chicago Coin and he says they are gearing up to remake several 90s pinball machines.

That's all I needed to know, where do I send my check for the MB remake?

I wonder if something like High Speed would be on the remake list... there is the rumor that the CPR playfields are limited to 125 or something from PPS holding the rights.

While far from fact, if true it would indicate that there is an idea of it happening. I don't see it but if they came out with it to compete at the Stern pro price point of 4-5k.... never know now. Anythings possible.

haha hilarious. This whole PPS remaking games keeps me amused on a daily basis, and yes I have two of the three mentioned.

Remake TAF, then we're talking. Quit making crappy overpriced WPC95s, or at least add some depth to the code for each.

Curly posts on PS; so does Rick.

Perhaps one of them will chime in with clarification/additional information.

Projections aside, ultimately comes down to the quality of MMR/how well it's received.

Sold!! That would be awesome!

This where Stern will either Rule The Universe or fall flat. LEs against these remakes at these prices will be tough. But put out really great 5k pros and they may win the battle or at least live to fight another day.

Why do you own two of them if they're crappy?

This is a guess but I take it he means the remakes would be crappy.

This is a guess, but I take it to mean "please don't make the games I own less valuable".