#1 smokes the others .

Have to agree with McCune here

end of POLL...

Add an entry for keep the LE.

No question!! Everyone knows its ACDC. That is todays MM. Its a must have!

I just saw this thread. As someone who has paid for his STLE, what exactly got changed?

And, as far as this poll....

I own a WOZECLE but just got back from a dude's house where I got to play an AC/DC premium for my first time. Now THAT is a lot of fun. I would say grab the AC/DC and hold off on the WOZ until the code is more complete. WOZ is fun as it is and I think it will have some very promising long-term appeal but as far as FUN goes, AC/DC has it beat for sure.

Uh oh..

Meh. ACDC is great and all, but it's no MM (for it's age). That honor may belong to WOZ too soon to say, but it's not ACDC from my view. It's well executed, but not to the level of something like MM where the theme, humor, toys were so far off the hook that it became legendary. ACDC as a music pin can never quite reach that height (especially with mono sound).

Your opinion, but its the minority. For most of us its without a doubt the game you play the most and just love. 80/20 rule. Your the 20 and entitled to that opinion but pretending that the 80% clearly feel that way would be silly.
And WOZ..not even out of the gate to make that statement.

I've already seen local interest waning a bit. It's still too fresh to put in that rare pantheon with MM. I don't think it will stand the test of time (at the level of current enthusiasm), that's my main point. Time will tell.

As owner of all these games, I sold my acdc premium. It's really not that great of a game. Too much cheap crap happens and not enough interesting shots. Ramps flow fantastic and so do orbits, but the new Star Trek has the exact same ramp and orbit feel but with a third flipper. Metallica is a lot more fun than acdc and the pro is a real winner in that one. Woz is just not a fast flowing game. It's a different experience and until more software is written for it, its not being played here.

As of right now - AC/DC all day long....however, Metallica update should be coming soon so - you never know! I really love both games, though.

Rarehero, thumbs down on markmon's post just because he didn't love all over ACDC???? Talk about your Pinside group think behavior modification, geesh.

With the current code on Metallica ? Not even close, even with code, it will be a huge challenge to beat AC/DC

This I will agree with on Ac/dc, but it is fun as hell and the music rocks despite the wtf moments! .....

You're dead to me.
(But I still want those LED kits that I ordered from PinballBulbs!)

Personally AcDc and Metallica are must haves anyway. ST is not in the same league. I would get both my only concern is you played the pro and it was not great for you. Have you played Met?

As for which one right now, as in today, its a no brainer, you get the Ac/dc with developed code......who knows when Met will be done and ST is way down the road and Woz has a ways to go as well......

Plus, there are a ton of Ac/dc premiums for sale and popping up all the time, due its popularity they sold thousands and keep cranking them out....

It must just be me that thinks canceling a game order because of one feature is lame. It's not like they changed the play field to a totally different play field or something.

And yes I am awaiting my stle

The code on acdc is outstanding. But the layout is horrible. Lyman really carried that game. And as a huge Steve Ritchie fan, that says a lot coming from me. The layout is polished. I'm convinced its exact what Steve wanted from it. But its just not that exciting. I hate center targets as the center "toy".

I can understand this though. I had the pro and ordered the LE for this feature. The fact that its now a VuK is a bummer for me and I may have kept my pro otherwise. The fact that it nicely fed the upper flipper was a big deal.

Get your Next Gen. back .

Ramp lights from Eli are cool, but don't be dissin' the Tron LE man!

Seriously though, STLE looks alright, but man, not 8 grand alright. WOZ is a great choice I think.

Got both AC/DC Premium and Met Pro. Really think you have your choices right. AC/DC Pro is not in the same league and it's not about the lower playfield. Code is fully mature and might even get the final icing on the cake. This is a fact, the machine is there and it's my best pin ever. Since I bought Metallica Pro Refinery edition I cannot stop playing it. A fan layout that works and tons of things to do. Code is not finish yet, one or two updates left but still they are both winners in my book and aint going anywhere anytime soon. Never though of owning a Pro one day. I'm not being arrogant or snob but difference was huge, now with Metallica and Tron I do understand that sometimes Pro is the way to go.

My opinion exactly. Angry birds or Muppets or even little pony could be the best pin ever but dude the theme is important to me. AC/DC and Metallica makes me a cool dude

Ah man we did not talk much but we should more. We think the same way. Right on with the X-Men too, faster game.

Easy choice out of pins listed for me would be MET Pro.

Sorry for the ignorance. What is a VUK?
What is so good about it. I have heard of VUK on another Machine too.
Thanks

Being confident in your masculinity makes you a cool dude, regardless of your tastes in pinball or anything else for that matter...

And before you rake me over the coals for my last post, you should know I've seen every AC/DC tour since 1982, and I also was proud to see the 3D Imax Wizard of Oz a few weeks back as well. Neither made me more or less of a man.

Like Snake and Coffin hammer ?

Good for you. Regardless there is some fun in typical guy stuff.
Many of us go to my friends house with a bar and sports theme while a few of us hang at the friends house who collects board game figures. He is a good guy but sorry guys like typical cool guy stuff.
Secure men could go see a show in broadway or a bunch of guys can hit Scores.Just the way it is. Secure or not does not equal a great guys night out.

Where did Stern officially announce the VUK was gone or otherwise redesigned?

Hey don't worry man it's all good at my age and with my past i'm very confortable with my masculine side. Maybe too much hehehe. We are just joking around but I like teasing a bit about themes.

Or, hey guys , what to play my Dirty Harry ?

I'm a *huge* WMS snob but, AC/DC Premium runs circles around Metallica, Star Trek and virtually anything else currently out there right now.

Best game in *years* from Stern!