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Maybe it's time to build a simpler pin.

By Aurich

8 years ago


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“Would you buy a modern take on an early 1980 solid state for $4k?”

  • I'd be interested. No pre-order. Maybe pay and get within 3 months, max. 106 votes
    29%
  • Unsure. Would have to play it, see reviews, probably not an early adopter. 100 votes
    27%
  • Doesn't really sound like the pinball I'm into more, sorry. Probably pass. 104 votes
    29%
  • Eh. 54 votes
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#21 8 years ago

I wouldn't buy it myself. Not NIB anyway, but I never buy NIB. I 'm more of a restorer of old games to like-new.

But, when done right obviously, this could be a good idea for operators. You've got some great ideas. Like twin start buttons. But that won't nearly be enough. The 'doing it right-thing' is trivial here. For starters, it needs to be -very- addicting to play, and approachable. At least as addicting, approachable, instantly appealing and cool as a smartphone app game. If you want younger generations to play it, that is.

One more modern feature that is hard to recreate for pinball is an online function. Reason: every one of the same model pinball machine plays slightly to vastly different. I do think that a game like this needs something 'online' about it, though. If it doesn't, it's already 3 steps behind other modern gaming experiences.

If you do this, rethink every part of the game for the current market and gaming environment. Conventions that are not logical when you think of them (like having just 1 start button, but there are many more of those conventions) should be redesigned. Without letting the game lose that pinball charm we all love. Easier said than done, but I'm sure it can be done.

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#28 8 years ago

Nice short story: there's a 6 Million Dollar Man at my work. They have bought it from me after I shopped it. Now I've got some new colleagues who are in their early twenties. 2 guys who had never been involved with real pinball before. They gravitate to the game and like to challenge each other on it. Last week I explained the rules a bit and they like it even more. To me that means that early Bally's rulesets aren't that easy to understand for new players after all.

Todays younger crowd didn't grow up playing pinball. That means explaining the rules has to be a key feature of the game. What goals do I have and how do I achieve them?

Funny side note: I had to point out that they could play against each other by pressing the start button twice. I even had to explain that this means that they switch after each ball. And that they each had their own score display. Mind you: these aren't dumb dudes or anything. The things we pinball players take for granted and that are so obvious in our eyes are a whole new world for new players.

#33 8 years ago

Rule- and gameplay-wise I think we can learn a lot from the System 11 pins. The pin does need to explain these rules actively though. A card on the appron is just too passive these days.

#218 8 years ago
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Nice short story: there's a 6 Million Dollar Man at my work. They have bought it from me after I shopped it. Now I've got some new colleagues who are in their early twenties. 2 guys who had never been involved with real pinball before. They gravitate to the game and like to challenge each other on it. Last week I explained the rules a bit and they like it even more. To me that means that early Bally's rulesets aren't that easy to understand for new players after all.
Todays younger crowd didn't grow up playing pinball. That means explaining the rules has to be a key feature of the game. What goals do I have and how do I achieve them?
Funny side note: I had to point out that they could play against each other by pressing the start button twice. I even had to explain that this means that they switch after each ball. And that they each had their own score display. Mind you: these aren't dumb dudes or anything. The things we pinball players take for granted and that are so obvious in our eyes are a whole new world for new players.

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