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Mata Hari Solenoids - Addressing Problem?

By Mathazar

5 years ago


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#3 5 years ago
Quoted from Mathazar:

Does the chart with the expected vs. actual firing order offer any clues?

Yes, the chart very much points to the problem.

As dothedoo mentioned, there are 4 signals from the MPU board to the SDB that select specific momentary solenoids to activate.
These signals are marked PB3, PB2, PB1 and PB0 on the schematic from the MPU board at connector J4 pins 1, 2, 3, and 4 respectively. They go to the SDB on J4 pins 3, 4, 5 and 6 respectively.
Below is the binary logic state of these signals (derived from the SDB schematic) showing what solenoids their combination activates.
Mapping out which solenoids are firing in the wrong order from your table, your problem specifically indicates that signal PB3 is stuck on a logic high "1" state at the SDB meaning there is an open circuit on this wire signal.
It's a red-white wire and it comes from MPU board connector J4 pin 1 and the destination is the SDB connector J4 pin 3. Check/reterminate the terminals on both ends - also check the soldering on the J4 pin header on the back of the solenoid driver board.

PPPP
BBBB
3210
==========================
0000 Saucer
0001 Chime 10
0010 Chime 100
0011 Chime 1000
0100 Chime 10000
0101 Knocker
0110 Outhole
0111 Pop Bumper Bottom Left
1000 Pop Bumper Top Left
1001 Pop Bumper Top Right
1010 Pop Bumper Bottom Right
1011 Slingshot Left
1100 Drop Target Reset Left
1101 Slingshot Right
1110 Drop Target Reset Right
1111 --

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#12 3 years ago
Quoted from IN-DEEP:

Hello QUENCH! Thanks for your info.My Mata Hari was driving me crazy.The chimes didn"t work and the knocker was taking their place.Just maddening.your post solved my problem.I hope you get this.

Glad to hear it helped!

#14 3 years ago
Quoted from Nikrox2:

Is this a connector issue?

Afraid not.
Let's check the driver circuitry for that 10k chime.

Disconnect J2 from the solenoid driver board, that will disconnect the chimes for now so they don't lock on.
Grab your multi-meter and set it to DC voltage (20V if it's not auto-ranging).
Hook up the black meter lead to ground.
Power up.
Measure the voltage with the red meter lead on the solenoid driver board at:
a) The banded leg of diode CR7 = (should be about 0 volts)
b) The non-banded leg of diode CR7 = (should be about 0.3 volts)
c) Pin 10 of U1 = (should be about 0.85 volts)
d) Pin 9 of U1 = (should be about 0.3 volts)

Report the voltages.
Oh, please post a picture of the 10k chime coil showing how it's wired plus the orientation of the diode on the coil.

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