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Massive Pinball Auction in Tulsa OK 02/18/18 (160 pins!)

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#451 6 years ago
Quoted from igo4rams:

I don't see posted what the Four horseman sold for. Anyone know? Thanks

$275 The 4 Horsemen

#452 6 years ago
Quoted from igo4rams:

I don't see posted what the Four horseman sold for. Anyone know? Thanks

The list on page one says it sold for $275. Another great buy.

#453 6 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

The list on page one says it sold for $275. Another great buy.

I thought Pro Football for $600 was a decent deal too - it was in nice shape. I meant to bid on that one but got caught talking inside when he was doing the sidewalk pins.

#454 6 years ago
Quoted from minnesota13:

The chicago coin Stagecoach was a machine I was interested in as it was one of the two first pins I first owned.

I feel you. It took me 40 years to find the first pin I owned but better late than never!

#455 6 years ago
Quoted from minnesota13:

The Arlington @ $750 was bought by a remote bidder who I hope did his "due diligence." It looked like it was just missing the coin slide, however it was missing the extremely rare coin conveyor and mech that moves the coins from the slide to the coin tube. It was not loose in the bottom of the machine either. Maybe the buyer has the conveyor and drive mech and was looking for the machine -- but I don't think so.

Yup. I assumed there were going to be missing parts on the Arlington, and appreciate your cursory inspection. The coin conveyer assembly was designed identical to the one used in my '38 Bally Seabiscuit, and with that knowledge, I've already begun fabricating a new one as a replacement. Although I've seen mention of the auction price being $750, the actual final purchase price was $700 ($759 including tax). Again, with my proclivity being prewar one-ball horse race machines, I was thrilled to see this one come up, and was prepared to do battle accordingly . Now If I can just get it back to Wisconsin safely!

#456 6 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Wow! No love for that game? I'd love to find a nice one, and so would 1974DeltaQueen.

Sweet Hearts an "F"? Not even a C-? Make that three of us that are looking for a Sweet Hearts

Never played it but I like to "try them all once if I'm lucky enough to find it".

Pretty good ratings though Nico Volta

#457 6 years ago

My Sweet Hearts is staying in my collection; it gets a 7.9 rating on ipdb.

It is a little different playing being a game from 1963, but I enjoy it more that my later card theme High Hand.

#458 6 years ago
Quoted from hoov:

Sweet Hearts an "F"? Not even a C-? Make that three of us that are looking for a Sweet Hearts

I'm not sure what grade the Sweet Hearts that I have would be rated, but DQ
said he was looking for one a little nicer. To me it's not bad. It's now in a tight spot,
but on it's feet. Years back, when I got it in, it was shopped and played. A couple
of the white letters in the backglass has been touched up, but have an unused
silkscreen repro. I took the pics 2 or 3 months back for Bryan..

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#459 6 years ago
Quoted from ckcsm:

My Sweet Hearts is staying in my collection; it gets a 7.9 rating on ipdb.

It is a little different playing being a game from 1963, but I enjoy it more that my later card theme High Hand.

Yo Chuck! Glad you’re enjoying it, but don’t believe the ratings...

Is Big Ben better than Argosy?

Road Race better than Queen of Diamonds?

Rollercoaster better than Far Out?

King Kool better than Surf Champ?

El Toro better than Flicker?

IPDB thinks so.

Sweet Hearts is currently the third-highest ranked game of them all. THIRD! That’s... pretty high...

#460 6 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Yo Chuck! Glad you’re enjoying it, but don’t believe the ratings...
Is Big Ben better than Argosy?
Road Race better than Queen of Diamonds?
Rollercoaster better than Far Out?
King Kool better than Surf Champ?
El Toro better than Flicker?
IPDB thinks so.
Sweet Hearts is currently the third-highest ranked game of them all. THIRD! That’s... pretty high...

I have to say that I agree with not putting any stock in the ipdb ratings. They're all over the place!

#461 6 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Yo Chuck! Glad you’re enjoying it, but don’t believe the ratings...
Is Big Ben better than Argosy?
Road Race better than Queen of Diamonds?
Rollercoaster better than Far Out?
King Kool better than Surf Champ?
El Toro better than Flicker?
IPDB thinks so.
Sweet Hearts is currently the third-highest ranked game of them all. THIRD! That’s... pretty high...

Third highest rating for an EM, I agree that's crazy, agree the ratings are all over the place, but I still like mine.

Nic, you didn't get to check my Sweet Hearts out on your last visit, (really nice playfield) hope you can if you pass through this way again, (Allentown show is coming up).

FYI - Ron Webb is taking orders for silk screened back glasses.

#462 6 years ago

Saw the thread title and thought I'd see this...

#463 6 years ago

I would like to throw in my 2 cents. I went looking for a baseball game only because I enjoyed one in my youth. I was successful in buying the CC Big League. Paid about what I figured to pay after watching first part of auction. Got it home and feel pleased with my buy. Appears to work as it should with issued mostly contributed to probably sitting for some time. Not pristine by any means but a good machine. Really clean for 50 years old. Overall enjoyed auction. Only problem I saw was that it was so small and crowded it was hard to see what was being sold if not in front row.

#464 6 years ago

$950 for a Gottlieb Panthera????

#465 6 years ago

There is a lot of mixed feelings towards Sweet Hearts. I don’t own one yet, but played it at shows. I consider it a good player and a “would buy” if I found one in nice original condition. It has that challenging players aspect of completing all the card sequences that keeps me waiting to play one more game. Only gripe I have is that the gobble hole is only worth 100 points even after lightning all 3 specials.....but all rollover special kind of makes it all worth it

#466 6 years ago
Quoted from Hula:

Yup. I assumed there were going to be missing parts on the Arlington, and appreciate your cursory inspection.

It's fantastic that you have an example of the coin conveyor assembly. I was interested in this machine because of nice cabinet and perhaps only needing a coin slide, but when I looked down where the coin conveyor should be I knew I had no chance of finding or fabricating a replacement without an example. I didn't see anything loose down in the cabinet base -- but the guts looked complete.

I hope you are pleased when it arrives.

#467 6 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

The list on page one says it sold for $275. Another great buy.

My son bought The 4 Horsemen. I was surprised it went that cheap. Nice condition all the way around, except that the unique bumper caps are missing. If anyone has a set, please let me know.
Nothing made sense at this auction. I came home empty handed.

#468 6 years ago
Quoted from Phillips88:

the gobble hole is only worth 100 points even after lightning all 3 specials

You mean 100 points and THREE replays!

#469 6 years ago
Quoted from vdojaq:

$950 for a Gottlieb Panthera????

If they were smart... they could have bought the Craig's list fixer for $375.00 and had it
shipped to them.

#470 6 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

I have to say that I agree with not putting any stock in the ipdb ratings. They're all over the place!

Especially if those Tools that rate all those 2” games 1-2 stars are factored in . “SlickChick” is one of those jagovs.

#471 6 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

I'm not sure what grade the Sweet Hearts that I have would be rated, but DQ
said he was looking for one a little nicer. To me it's not bad. It's now in a tight spot,
but on it's feet. Years back, when I got it in, it was shopped and played. A couple
of the white letters in the backglass has been touched up, but have an unused
silkscreen repro. I took the pics 2 or 3 months back for Bryan..

Yeah it looks better than I remember . Too bad it’s such a F’n hike to Newark for me . I Emailed you just now.

#472 6 years ago

$1700 for a Stingray? Whew.... Must have been a bag of weed in the cabinet. Don't get me wrong, the play field looked darn nice for original, (although the PF's on that game usually maintain their condition well)..... but $1700 @ an auction? Wow.

#473 6 years ago
Quoted from WeatherbyMAG:

$1700 for a Stingray? Whew.... Must have been a bag of weed in the cabinet. Don't get me wrong, the play field looked darn nice for original, (although the PF's on that game usually maintain their condition well)..... but $1700 @ an auction? Wow.

This is probably difficult for coastal/NE US folks to understand, but we aren't exactly saturated with pinball machines in Oklahoma. There is rarely more than a couple of 1980+ pins on Craigslist at any time - and those are snapped up quick if they are even decently priced. The demand simply exceeds supply.

There were a lot of non-hobbyists that showed up looking to add a pin to their gameroom. The only reference for these folks is ebay - so they look up Bone Busters and see a $4k price...boom - $2700 seems like a bargain!

After the solid states were gone (about 60 pins in), the crowd size dwindled to 1/2 or less of the beginning size. At this point the prices normalized with a few going high, a few going low, but mostly average.

#474 6 years ago
Quoted from Damonator:

...the prices normalized with a few going high, a few going low, but mostly average.

Average for a mostly working, clean, playable games. Which most of these were not. I'd guess half of them flipped, nearly all of them needed a thorough cleaning and all new rubbers. Overall the prices were about double or triple what they were worth. It was what you might expect of a 160 pin collection that the owner rarely played anymore.

I'm still laughing about the $2500 The Amazing Spider-Man

#475 6 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Primary game I drove here for:
Solids N' Stripes - $1900 - Too much, but very nice
Second choice game:
Bristol Hills Gottlieb 1971 $600
Didn't need it. Just wanted to copy the mechanics so my Snow Derby plays the same way... prefer the Bristol rules. But eh, it can wait...
Games I'd have bought if they were cheap, but weren't:
A Go Go Williams 1966 - $1000
King Pin Gottlieb 1973 - $800
Old Chicago Bally 1976 - $1200 (excellent condition)
Pioneer Gottlieb 1976 - $750
Sky Line Gottlieb 1965 - $1000 (excellent condition)
Stingray Stern 1977 - $1700
Strikes and Spares Bally 1978 - $1400
Games I did buy:
Campus Queen Bally 1966 - $500
Ice Show Gottlieb 1966 - $450
Wizard! Bally 1975 - $740 (not from auction... nearby seller offsite)
Games I would have bought if I had more room and time:
Dixieland Bally 1968 - $575
Fan-Tas-Tic Williams 1972 - $650
Magic Town Williams 1967 - $500
Games I proxy bid for others and lost:
Bumper Bally 1936 - $575 (limit was $350)
Paradise Gottlieb 1940 - $2400 (limit was $500)
Games I was happy for the buyers:
Hi Dolly Gottlieb 1965 - $325
Mini Zag Bally 1968 - $375
Moulin Rouge Williams 1965 - $325
Pioneer Gottlieb 1976 - $435
Score Board Gottlieb 1956 - $150
Sitting Pretty Gottlieb 1958 - $1000
Stampede Stern 1977 - $325
Games which inspired gasps:
A Go Go Williams 1966 - $1000
Bone Busters Gottlieb 1989 - $2700
Ding Dong Williams 1968 - $850
El Rancho Keeney 1962 - $2400
El Toro Bally 1972 - $650
Flicker Bally 1975 - $1200
Hayburners Williams 1951 - $2100
Hi Deal Bally 1975 - $1100
Paddock Williams 1969 - $850
Paradise Gottlieb 1940 - $2400
Sky Kings Bally 1974 - $1100
Solids N' Stripes Williams 1971 - $1900
Spiderman Gottlieb 1980 - $2500
Spit Fire Genco 1935 - $1800
Spy Hunter Bally 1984 - $1200
Stagecoach Chicago Coin 1968 - $1500
Star Trek Bally 1978 - $1100
Stingray Stern 1977 - $1700
Surf Champ Gottlieb 1976 - $1300
Swinger Williams 1973 - $1200
Top Hat Williams 1958 - $1900
Tri Zone Williams 1979 - $1050
Trident Stern 1979 - $1000
Overall, definitely worth the trip for me... but newbie/wild bidders were more likely to get crushed than not.

Nice haul Nic! Those all fit in your Subaru???

#476 6 years ago
Quoted from nascarrey:

Nice haul Nic! Those all fit in your Subaru???

Tuscon, actually... and I can only get one EM in there at a time. Luckily, Howard and pinhead52 had some extra room in their vehicles and didn't take Sweet Farts to heart. Tee hee.

(BTW pinhead52 has a really nice one)

#477 6 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Tuscon, actually... and I can only get one EM in there at a time. Luckily, Howard and pinhead52 had some extra room in their vehicles and didn't take Sweet Farts to heart. Tee hee.
(BTW pinhead52 has a really nice one)

Ya I realized that I had the wrong make of car after I posted...congrats on the new acquisitions!

#478 6 years ago
Quoted from nascarrey:

Ya I realized that I had the wrong make of car after I posted...congrats on the new acquisitions!

At least one of them will be playable in a public location before too long...

#479 6 years ago

Heard these machines had been stored on pallets in the owners warehouse. Wondering if the owner got to enjoy playing any of them. Perhaps the good games have yet to surface, and this was the "B" stock. If so, where is the good stuff.

The Gottlieb Pro Football still sports a $1400 price tag, and sold for half of that (before fees). There could have been allot of money tied up in this accumulation.

#480 6 years ago
Quoted from WeatherbyMAG:

$1700 for a Stingray? Whew.... Must have been a bag of weed in the cabinet. Don't get me wrong, the play field looked darn nice for original, (although the PF's on that game usually maintain their condition well)..... but $1700 @ an auction? Wow.

Stingray PF had been clearcoated and was very noticeably wavy. Lots and lots of little waves- matches the theme? If you look for it ( the waves) in the auction photos you can see them.

#481 6 years ago
Quoted from vdojaq:

$950 for a Gottlieb Panthera????

The Panthera was lit up, but did not start a game. But the back glass was in great condition as was the play field.

#482 6 years ago

Could the Panthera buyer PM me I would like to chat.

#483 6 years ago
Quoted from CNKay:

Could the Panthera buyer PM me I would like to chat.

New job for the auctioneer, maybe? Matchmaker? Arranging contact between all of his auction customers/buyers and someone who would like to buy a pin that someone else bought? For a fee, of course.

#484 6 years ago

Speaking of auctions...

https://www.ebth.com/items/8093566-sonic-super-straight-pinball-machine

High bid $111 with 2 days left on this nice looking Super Straight in Colorado.

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#485 6 years ago
Quoted from DennisDodel:

Nothing made sense at this auction. I came home empty handed.

Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

... Overall the prices were about double or triple what they were worth.

Didn't a very 'special' someone call me "Hoss" a while back???

#486 6 years ago
Quoted from SuperDaveOsbourn:

Didn't a very 'special' someone call me "Hoss" a while back???

That would be me. What's on your mind?

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#487 6 years ago
Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

I'm still laughing about the $2500 The Amazing Spider-Man

Hello everyone, and yes, this is my first post ......... ha, well I am the pinball rube that bought this Spider-Man, so I am glad you had a chuckle. I will shed some light on the circumstances of the acquisition. (1) This ASM was my personal favorite that I played when I was a kid (quite obsessed with both Spider-Man and pinball, very very sentimental and brings back some great memories. (2) As Damonator correctly noted, these games do not show up that often in this area, and the one in question seemed to be in great shape and played very well, so I overpaid. (3) I may have been a victim of the group bidding, and someone going for the Devil's Dare and I may have been bidding against each other, not sure .......... (4) and yes, I am certainly a newbie, and was caught up in the moment with all these incredibly cool machines. Anyway, I am happy with the purchase, and I plan to teach my kids some great play on this Spidey, and enjoy it for some time ... I hope. Look forward to reading everyone's posts and learning more. Best to all.

#488 6 years ago
Quoted from G-Ball:

This ASM was my personal favorite that I played when I was a kid (quite obsessed with both Spider-Man and pinball, very very sentimental and brings back some great memories. (2) As Damonator correctly noted, these games do not show up that often in this area, and the one in question seemed to be in great shape and played very well, so I overpaid.

Good for you G-Ball Sentimental value is sometimes worth every penny. Welcome to Pinside. When it breaks (and they all do at some point) you'll find lots of people happy to help trouble shoot it with you.

#489 6 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Speaking of auctions...
https://www.ebth.com/items/8093566-sonic-super-straight-pinball-machine
High bid $111 with 2 days left on this nice looking Super Straight in Colorado.

I was offered one non working for $300.00. $111.00 a steal if you are near by.

#490 6 years ago
Quoted from G-Ball:

I am happy with the purchase, and I plan to teach my kids some great play on this Spidey, and enjoy it for some time

That's all that matters!

Congrats on your pick up!

#491 6 years ago
Quoted from G-Ball:

Hello everyone, and yes, this is my first post ......... ha, well I am the pinball rube that bought this Spider-Man, so I am glad you had a chuckle. I will shed some light on the circumstances of the acquisition. (1) This ASM was my personal favorite that I played when I was a kid (quite obsessed with both Spider-Man and pinball, very very sentimental and brings back some great memories. (2) As Damonator correctly noted, these games do not show up that often in this area, and the one in question seemed to be in great shape and played very well, so I overpaid. (3) I may have been a victim of the group bidding, and someone going for the Devil's Dare and I may have been bidding against each other, not sure .......... (4) and yes, I am certainly a newbie, and was caught up in the moment with all these incredibly cool machines. Anyway, I am happy with the purchase, and I plan to teach my kids some great play on this Spidey, and enjoy it for some time ... I hope. Look forward to reading everyone's posts and learning more. Best to all.

Welcome to the club!

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#492 6 years ago
Quoted from Biffbar:

Heard these machines had been stored on pallets in the owners warehouse. Wondering if the owner got to enjoy playing any of them. Perhaps the good games have yet to surface, and this was the "B" stock. If so, where is the good stuff.
The Gottlieb Pro Football still sports a $1400 price tag, and sold for half of that (before fees). There could have been allot of money tied up in this accumulation.

I came across a pic of the owner's storage approach, back when the collection was still in the warehouse.

Looks to be a great solution if you can't have them all set up to play.

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#493 6 years ago
Quoted from Model237:

I came across a pic of the owner's storage approach, back when the collection was still in the warehouse.
Looks to be a great solution if you can't have them all set up to play.

Man, I would've paid an admission fee just to walk around in there. He was definitely mindful and cared for the games.

#494 6 years ago
Quoted from Model237:

I came across a pic of the owner's storage approach, back when the collection was still in the warehouse.
Looks to be a great solution if you can't have them all set up to play.

It makes you wonder what his ultimate game plan was. To set these up and play them or just collecting them to have them? I wonder if he ever had them all set up and was able to enjoy them at some point?

#495 6 years ago

tulsa.craigslist.org link

Auction items on CL 4 different pins your choice $750.00 each looks like $400.00-$500.00 pins.

#496 6 years ago
Quoted from G-Ball:

As Damonator correctly noted, these games do not show up that often in this area, and the one in question seemed to be in great shape and played very well, so I overpaid. (3) I may have been a victim of the group bidding, and someone going for the Devil's Dare and I may have been bidding against each other, not sure

We collectively "gasp" at the price you paid for your Spiderman. But you did not do so bad.

Group auctions can mess with people's minds but the only difference is the nagging question of what is the other guy bidding on. So it helps to have an idea in mind of what you are willing to pay before the auction starts and when your limit is reached you let the other guy have the winning bid and a lot of times the winner wants a different group item and you get another chance for what you want at what most likely will be a lower price. But not always; Sometimes the winning bidder will take everything in the group and you are SOL.

You don't say where you live. I'll assume you live in Tulsa and your transportation costs would be zero. While Gottlieb produced around 7625 of ASMs, I don't remember seeing very many for sale on Craigslist when searching around the county on Craigslist. So, take the $2500.00 you paid and subtract $400.00 it would cost for you to ship it in. That takes you down to $2100.00.

It was/is a nice looking pin. You got a nice backglass and a nice clean playfield. You got to see it for yourself and see just what you were buying as opposed to the uncertainty of having one shipped in and you find out the seller's definition of "good condition" is not quite as well defined as yours. So, seeing first hand what you are buying has some value that only buyer can evaluate. I'll allow $100.00 for certainty. Now you are down to $2000.00.

I did not try to play it. I don't know why. You bought a nice looking pin that was playing. That is worth something. Perhaps you could have bought one for less money somewhere else but it would not be working. Maybe you would get it home and it would be "just a fuse" or quite likely it would be something more troublesome and expensive to troubleshoot and fix. Fixer uppers can get costly and leave you with the burning question of "where did all the money go"?

You picked up a working pin that you have played and you know how it plays. You got one that is in nice condition with nice play field and nice back glass (a repro back glass would cost you $300.00). No transport charges.

You did OK. Could you have done better on price? Maybe. But not by much for a clean working ASM. And there are not all that many for sale so you could be waiting for awhile to find another one. And the transport costs would wipe out your cost savings. Yeah. You did OK.

#497 6 years ago
Quoted from Grayman_EM:

tulsa.craigslist.org link
Auction items on CL 4 different pins your choice $750.00 each looks like $400.00-$500.00 pins.

If you look on page 7 it looks like these sold for $600 each add what ever he had to pay for the action fees and or taxes (I'm guessing $50 each machine).

It sounds to me like he is just trying to get out from under these games? Maybe only making about $100 each.

#498 6 years ago

Another one being flipped:

tulsa.craigslist.org link

and another:

tulsa.craigslist.org link

#499 6 years ago
Quoted from Grayman_EM:

tulsa.craigslist.org link
Auction items on CL 4 different pins your choice $750.00 each looks like $400.00-$500.00 pins.

Man, you are always quick to value (and often undervalue) games. It depends on the condition, as you well know. Other than some people saying they were "nice", if the BG's and PF's are extremely nice, they could be worth a little more than book value.

Let alone the guy may be flexible a little bit on the price of each game. We now know that the original owner took his time to store games in a very neat and organized fashion, so I would assume most of them were pretty nice. You don't store a bunch of junkers in a warehouse with a system like that.

If I was closer, I would definitely take a look at the Stardust and the Fan-tas-tic. Both great games.

#500 6 years ago
Quoted from Grayman_EM:

tulsa.craigslist.org link
Auction items on CL 4 different pins your choice $750.00 each looks like $400.00-$500.00 pins.

Those four games were presented in a common lot and the high bid was $600. The guy took all 4 for that price.

After sales tax it looks like a lot of work to make $100 per game. Maybe he has buyer's remorse.

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