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M&M Creations Says Thank You!

By Sonic

9 months ago


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#1 9 months ago

Sonic & blubboman with M&M Creations here...we just wanted to say thanks for all your patronage in 2020; especially given that our sales are 100% based upon word of mouth testimonials from the pinball community.

We began by making replacement OEM MRS' for the 7 WMS pins that they originated: Revenge From Mars NBA Fastbreak Safe Cracker Cirqus Voltaire Star Wars Episode I Cactus Canyon No Good Gofers. From there, because of my love for Creature from the Black Lagoon we made custom MRS' for nearly every pin that had a bowl: Mustang (Pro) Taxi Diner Transporter the Rescue Cactus Canyon . Then came our foray into custom ramp MRS' for Taxi Indiana Jones: The Pinball Adventure The Shadow Pirates of the Caribbean culminating in a universal MRS for all plastic ramps which our customers put onto various homebrew projects, The Machine: Bride of Pinbot Pinbot Who Dunnit High Speed Mousin' Around! and others.

Lately, we've been working on rollover solutions for Rob Zombie's Spookshow International & Rick and Morty (Standard) and we took on a couple side projects to reproduce the PRISM tool for Revenge From Mars & Star Wars Episode I and a tricky endeavor to reproduce the upper playfield chute for Swords of Fury .

Frankly, we didn't think we'd be doing much beyond the OEM MRS and the Creech whirlpool.....but here we are. The most fun we've had has been resolving problems - bothersome switches that are either prone to fail or perhaps oversighted in their design.

Well, now this thread is getting too long - again, appreciate your patronage and the pinball community - we are happy to make a contribution to it - albeit in our own small way.

Matt & Dan
M&M Creations

#2 9 months ago

Congrats on a great product.

#3 9 months ago
Quoted from tomtest:

Congrats on a great product.

Thanks! Glad to hear your OEM and Diner MRS' are doing their job!

#4 9 months ago

No idea what you make, but upvote for the positivity! Keep doing, what you do..

#5 9 months ago
Quoted from Roostking:

No idea what you make, but upvote for the positivity! Keep doing, what you do..

Sorry about that! We primarily make MRS' - magnetic reed switches - these are contactless switches that appeared initially in some WMS & Sega pins in the 90's....they went unobtainium a long time ago so not only did we reproduce the originals, but we expanded on the technology and customized them for more prolific applications.

Matt

#6 9 months ago
Quoted from Sonic:

Sorry about that! We primarily make MRS' - magnetic reed switches - these are contactless switches that appeared initially in some WMS & Sega pins in the 90's....they went unobtainium a long time ago so not only did we reproduce the originals, but we expanded on the technology and customized them for more prolific applications.
Matt

Nice. I'm not a long time pinball collector, but I love seeing the community come together to solve a problem and keep these pins not only alive, but playing better than new!

#7 9 months ago

I am really interested in these switches now!

#8 9 months ago

Great products and dealing with Matt has been a pleasure, so for anyone out there that is undecided my advice is you won't be disappointed.

Thanks Matt and M&M Creations!!

#9 9 months ago
Quoted from Manny65:

Great products and dealing with Matt has been a pleasure, so for anyone out there that is undecided my advice is you won't be disappointed.
Thanks Matt and M&M Creations!!

Thanks! Glad you are enjoying your Shadow MRS!!

#10 9 months ago

The MRS That the boys at M&M Creations made for the maelstrom ramp for my POTC works flawlessly each and every time and is completely hidden! Just what I was looking for! Excellent work! Thanks guys!

#11 9 months ago
Quoted from HeavyMetalPoet:

The MRS That the boys at M&M Creations made for the maelstrom ramp for my POTC works flawlessly each and every time and is completely hidden! Just what I was looking for! Excellent work! Thanks guys!

Thanks so much Brent! Hey, if you get a sec - post a pic - other than during development - we've seen none of the POTC applications so far....

Matt

#12 9 months ago

How about a link to the products you offer and some pics too, might help in making a few more sales.

#13 9 months ago
Quoted from PinRob:

How about a link to the products you offer and some pics too, might help in making a few more sales.

Sure thing - any particular pin you are looking for? Since we have so many MRS variations - we post pics/testimonials in the various Forum pin club pages - it's more effective to do it this way since the owners of said pins immediately understand the application or need....

Matt

#14 9 months ago

WPC Judge Dredd, possible subway switch replacement

#15 9 months ago

M&M Creations has been awesome. What a great product and Matt has been awesome to work with on the RZ upper playfield switch. And they are open to working on unsolved issues. Highly recommend them.

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#16 9 months ago
Quoted from epeabs:

M&M Creations has been awesome. What a great product and Matt has been awesome to work with on the RZ upper playfield switch. And they are open to working on unsolved issues. Highly recommend them.
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Thanks Erik! Don't forget to get the matching rollover installed - make that upper playfield look purdy!

Matt

#17 9 months ago

MRS for CFTBL whirlpool is a must. I used one many years ago and it was exactly what was needed. I loosened the tiltbob and could get the ball to make 15-20 rotations, besides it looking better. I didn’t buy them for RZ, as my leaf switches worked fine with some bending and there is a half-moon shaped leaf switch option available too. Now that I know you’ve fit a JJPOTC with a MRS, I’ll be ordering one as that seems like the right solution. Will get a spare one too and look for other applications to use.

#18 9 months ago
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

MRS for CFTBL whirlpool is a must. I used one many years ago and it was exactly what was needed. Now that I know you’ve fit one for JJPOTC, I’ll be ordering.

Yeah, that one is one of our most recent (take a look at the JJPOTC forum)....we didn't know about the Maelstrom ramp aesthetic issue - that is kind of an ugly design - a customer of ours approached asking for a better solution, so we modified our ramp MRS and it adheres right below where the plastic ramp transitions to the wireform - very well hidden - registers every time...

Matt
M&M Creations

#19 9 months ago
Quoted from PinRob:

WPC Judge Dredd, possible subway switch replacement

Hi PinRob - yep, Judge Dredd (the only pin I let go and want back) I'm familiar with the plastic subway underneath - I think there are 2 switches if I remember correctly - either way - we have a universal ramp MRS that replaces those - you simply stick the MRS to the subway - and plug in the connector - it's that simple! Take a look below at the pic from a Who Dunnit for conceptualization....that's an earlier model - the new ones are about 33% smaller than that (which were small to begin with)....

Matt
M&M Creations

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#20 9 months ago

Orders?

#21 9 months ago

So these switches are pretty much universal replacements for the rollover type switches that come with most games? Aside from the occasional custom fit of course, but I mean they will work as plug and play replacements if it will fit?

I have a subway switch in my ACNC that I feel is questionable. It seems to register sometimes and other times not. I have tried to adjust it every way I can but it still seems to be hit and miss. These switches work in a manner that it detects the ball rolling over it and registers? I am wondering if replacing it with one of these will make a difference.

And I have an R&M coming soon so depending on the spot where your switch is used, I may end up getting one there if I have the problem that some have reported. I also have a JD, but I don't think I have ever had a problem with my subway switches on that machine.

#22 9 months ago

PinRob Sorry about that....simply PM me for payment details (we take PayPal & Venmo) and for discussion on your application!

Thanks!

Matt
M&M Creations

#23 9 months ago
Quoted from Calfdemon:

So these switches are pretty much universal replacements for the rollover type switches that come with most games? Aside from the occasional custom fit of course, but I mean they will work as plug and play replacements if it will fit?
I have a subway switch in my ACNC that I feel is questionable. It seems to register sometimes and other times not. I have tried to adjust it every way I can but it still seems to be hit and miss. These switches work in a manner that it detects the ball rolling over it and registers? I am wondering if replacing it with one of these will make a difference.
And I have an R&M coming soon so depending on the spot where your switch is used, I may end up getting one there if I have the problem that some have reported. I also have a JD, but I don't think I have ever had a problem with my subway switches on that machine.

Calfdemon Rollovers, ramps, bowls, gates.....really anything...yep we design them for plug & play, but some may require a simple solder-splice....so far in 80's/90's DE and WMS pins...Stern, Spooky (both PinHeck and PROC systems), JJP, Homebrew stuff....for your ACNC it could make a difference - we can discuss....it detects the proximity of the ball more so than rolling over it....for your R&M - we created some rollover variations because of a design flaw that allows too much room for the pinball to get 'past' the playfield rollover in a tight orbit section....just PM me...let's see what we can do!

Matt
M&M Creations

#24 9 months ago
Quoted from Sonic:

Thanks Erik! Don't forget to get the matching rollover installed - make that upper playfield look purdy!
Matt

Already done Matt. Just couldn't find my pictures until now. Erik

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#25 9 months ago
Quoted from epeabs:

Already done Matt. Just couldn't find my pictures until now. Erik
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It's a thing of beauty!!

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#26 9 months ago

These work awesome!
Rick and Morty
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#27 8 months ago

Hey Matt,

I have another spot where a MRS might be useful. It's regarding a rollover switch on ACNC that is supposed to detect the left ramp Frankenstein monster left lock. Whenever I feed the ball manually, it works fine, but in actual game play it either jumps over the switch or rolls over it too fast or something more than 50% of the time.

I have monkied around with the switch to try and give it more travel, but to no avail. I've seen other comments regarding this problem so I know I'm not the only one.

Any interest in making an MRS solution? The switch is on the upper PF in a tight area, so I'm not sure whether a custom solution would be needed or not

--Cory

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#28 8 months ago
Quoted from benjam47:

Hey Matt,
I have another spot where a MRS might be useful. It's regarding a rollover switch on ACNC that is supposed to detect the left ramp Frankenstein monster left lock. Whenever I feed the ball manually, it works fine, but in actual game play it either jumps over the switch or rolls over it too fast or something more than 50% of the time.
I have monkied around with the switch to try and give it more travel, but to no avail. I've seen other comments regarding this problem so I know I'm not the only one.
Any interest in making an MRS solution? The switch is on the upper PF in a tight area, so I'm not sure whether a custom solution would be needed or not
--Cory
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Anything is possible.....but without an ACNC to reference (heck there may only be one in my state)....we'd need more pics - possibly talk on the phone to get some more details about where an MRS could go - it looks like the location where the switch is now is within a metal guide - which would not bode well for the MRS - so perhaps somewhere further along the ball path where it gets into the plastic ramp is doable....shoot me a call when you get your order that just shipped - and let's figure this out...

Matt
M&M Creations

#29 8 months ago
Quoted from Sonic:

Anything is possible.....but without an ACNC to reference (heck there may only be one in my state)....we'd need more pics - possibly talk on the phone to get some more details about where an MRS could go - it looks like the location where the switch is now is within a metal guide - which would not bode well for the MRS - so perhaps somewhere further along the ball path where it gets into the plastic ramp is doable....shoot me a call when you get your order that just shipped - and let's figure this out...
Matt
M&M Creations

Sounds good. In the meantime I'll look into removing the upper playfield to get some better pictures. But the basic idea is there is another switch on the left ramp which causes the ball to be diverted into the pictured switch (when appropriate) . The ball passes the pictured switch and becomes a physical ball lock. When the Frankenstein monster mech that it is sitting on rises up, the ball is released.

That makes this switch problem especially annoying, in that not only do you not get credit for the ball lock, you now have a stuck locked ball and the ball search waits for the 3rd search before raising the monster.

#30 8 months ago

There is this switch plate in front of Hulk on Avengers. It is on a rocking mechanism with a microswitch underneath. The pivot creates a lip that catches the ball and has frustrated MANY an Avengers owner. The rocking plate is made up of a thin metal plate with the attached decal over the metal plate. Can I use one of your ramp sensors under the metal plate or would I need to replace it with a non-ferrous material?

If I need to replace it, will 1/4" thick acrylic be too thick?

Can you PM me the details to purchase one of the ramp sensors (there isn't a switch slot there) so I can try it out if you think it will work? I often thought Stern should have used an eddy sensor there. Yours seems like a good alternative!
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#31 8 months ago
Quoted from Schwaggs:

There is this switch plate in front of Hulk on Avengers. It is on a rocking mechanism with a microswitch underneath. The pivot creates a lip that catches the ball and has frustrated MANY an Avengers owner. The rocking plate is made up of a thin metal plate with the attached decal over the metal plate. Can I use one of your ramp sensors under the metal plate or would I need to replace it with a non-ferrous material?
If I need to replace it, will 1/4" thick acrylic be too thick?
Can you PM me the details to purchase one of the ramp sensors (there isn't a switch slot there) so I can try it out if you think it will work? I often thought Stern should have used an eddy sensor there. Yours seems like a good alternative!
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Go ahead and PM me - I'm about a week out with orders before I can take a look deeper- but that said, correct - non-ferrous is a must - 1/4" of acrylic is no problemo....if you could replace it with something like acrylic - then you are in business.....

Matt

M&M Creations

#32 8 months ago
Quoted from benjam47:

Hey Matt,
I have another spot where a MRS might be useful. It's regarding a rollover switch on ACNC that is supposed to detect the left ramp Frankenstein monster left lock. Whenever I feed the ball manually, it works fine, but in actual game play it either jumps over the switch or rolls over it too fast or something more than 50% of the time.
I have monkied around with the switch to try and give it more travel, but to no avail. I've seen other comments regarding this problem so I know I'm not the only one.
Any interest in making an MRS solution? The switch is on the upper PF in a tight area, so I'm not sure whether a custom solution would be needed or not
--Cory
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Here is another shot of the frank switches that could use updated.

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#33 8 months ago
Quoted from JustEverett:

Here is another shot of the frank switches that could use updated.
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Here are a couple other photos of the underside.

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#34 8 months ago

So this my request LOTR right orbit, that switch does not trigger as often as it should so thinking replace it with a magnetic one?

#35 8 months ago

That's a solution we may already have - shoot me a PM - i'll get you on the list

#36 8 months ago
Quoted from Sonic:

That's a solution we may already have - shoot me a PM - i'll get you on the list

So I was not the first person to think of this.... shocking... I kid I kid... Thanks! PM sent.

#37 8 months ago
Quoted from JustEverett:

Here are a couple other photos of the underside.
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Thanks for taking those pics! Hopefully that will help Sonic determine whether his MRS's could help here. Do you have the same problem with switch hits not getting recognized, particularly on the left lock?

#38 8 months ago
Quoted from benjam47:

Thanks for taking those pics! Hopefully that will help Sonic determine whether his MRS's could help here. Do you have the same problem with switch hits not getting recognized, particularly on the left lock?

For me lock 1 (I think of that as the left lock as it’s player left) always works. My lock two has been a pain since I got the game.

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#39 8 months ago
Quoted from JustEverett:

For me lock 1 (I think of that as the left lock as it’s player left) always works. My lock two has been a pain since I got the game.

Adjusted my frank switch again, and last night hit the second lock only to have the game not recognize it. This is one of the most frustrating issues I’ve ever had on a game, so I’m hopping M&M can come up with a MRS switch to fix this issue.

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