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#wheresthecode

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#2060 7 years ago
Quoted from flashinstinct:

I am not making any excuses. Nor am I calling them lazy. There is an insert that does nothing on the game. I'm just stating that they should fill the hole and make the game 100%. Defend it all you want, but we will always come back to the same conclusion until the insert does something. I'm not saying the game is not great just stating that it's unfinished

Clearly you've never developed software. Chasing '100%' is a fools errand. You complete what you aimed to complete with a quality you deem acceptable and then its done. The Canon Modes were dropped - not 'undone' - dropped. Just because there is an insert doesn't mean they MUST go and implement something for the game to be done.

What isn't 'done' about the game is not going back and making a different playfield. The idea behind those inserts was dropped from the game and they didn't do another playfield when they changed their design for the game.

You're arguing over semantics (having your personal goal met of 'everything does something') vs accepting the realities of development.. ironically, for changes that made the game infinitely better.

Stomping your feet over this is like crying about being given a golden nugget, and then complaining its not polished.

#2064 7 years ago
Quoted from Cornelius:

Comments like these just completely stifle any sort of conversation to be had. Is that what the game is, here? Insist repeatedly that there's nothing wrong with the code as it is until everyone who disagrees just gives up?

Not at all. It's called accepting more than one measure. flashinstinct is bothered by one dimension, and refuses to acknowledge the realities surrounding him. The game's rules were made AFTER the playfield was locked in -- This is straight from Lyman. Instead of making a game constrained by the playfield inserts, Lyman made the game into a golden nugget using software. Instead of accepting that gift, flashinstinct is instead stuck in the past and going 'but what about these things'. It's like arguing "Lyman, that was a great idea and all, but can you instead go back and instead work on these modes... because they have an insert you know.. and that's more important"

It's completely ignoring the decision to go beyond the playfield inserts to MAKE A BETTER GAME and instead insist the playfield inserts are more important than making the best game he could.

It's cutting off the nose to spite the face

I mean, the decision that the canon inserts (and horn inserts... don't forget those!) were not part of the game and Lyman was at ease with that more than 2.5 years ago. Do you understand the idea of coming to terms with the reality that its over?

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