Variable Magna-Save

I have a BK (1980) and a Grand Lizard (1986). Both have Magna Save, only Grand Lizard's Magna Save allows you to "tap" the button (and just use the magnet for a split second) and thereby re-direct the ball, or just hold the ball for a second. It's an amazing toy.

What other games have a magna-save like Grand Lizard, where you can "TAP" the button for a small effect? (Not the older style that stays locked on for ~5 seconds)

Games with variable Magna-Save:

Solar Fire
Jungle Lord
Pharaoh
Grand Lizard

thanks!
MOF

#2 10 years ago

NIL

Nilroc

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Theatre of Magic has Magna Save. I really like the way you activate it by hitting targets rather than
just pushing a button. When activated by hitting target it stays on for approximately 20 seconds then shuts off until you hit target again. I love it because it takes skill to keep it activated!
Can be frustrating at times when you don't have it activated!

#3 10 years ago

DAJ

Pafasa

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OP
Quoted from mof:
I have a BK (1980) and a Grand Lizard (1986). Both have Magna Save, only Grand Lizard's Magna Save allows you to "tap" the button (and just use the magnet for a split second) and thereby re-direct the ball, or just hold the ball for a second. It's an amazing toy.
What other games have a magna-save like Grand Lizard, where you can "TAP" the button for a small effect? (Not the older style that stays locked on for ~5 seconds)
thanks!
MOF

Like the magna flip in TZ?

#4 10 years ago

ALF

spanks_4

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BK has an adjustment in the menu somewhere to change the amount of seconds the magnet stays on. You can adjust it to grab and let go if you would like.

#5 10 years ago

NIL

Nilroc

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No.
Located on the drain lanes. Stops ball dead then sends it down the flipper lane complete with
sound effects. It is really cool!

#6 10 years ago

NIL

Nilroc

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Here's an excitable guy doing a review of TOM.

#7 10 years ago

MOF

mof

So the answer is no other game has what Grand Lizard has? I find that hard to believe...

I wonder what the BK2K Magna Save is like ?
-mof

#8 10 years ago

MOF

mof

Quoted from spanks_4:
BK has an adjustment in the menu somewhere to change the amount of seconds the magnet stays on. You can adjust it to grab and let go if you would like.

I didn't know that -- I think I'll turn mine down just 1 second on the BK. Thanks!
-mof

#9 10 years ago

-V-

EchoVictor

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OP
Quoted from mof:
So the answer is no other game has what Grand Lizard has? I find that hard to believe...
-mof

Pharoah and Jungle Lord have variable length magna-saves...

Later,
EV

#10 10 years ago

KXN

klaxxon

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Games with magna-save: http://ipdb.org/search.pl?any=magna+save&sortby=name&search=Search+Database&searchtype=quick

I believe BK and BK2K are the only magna-save games where duration *isn't* controlled by the player. Though I'm not sure how it works on TOM and WCS.

#11 10 years ago

FRZ

freezie

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I love the magna save on my jungle lord , fun aspect !

#12 10 years ago

MOF

mof

Quoted from EchoVictor:
Pharoah and Jungle Lord have variable length magna-saves...
Later,
EV

I had figured. I think GL borrowed everything from elsewhere. thanks!
-mof

#13 10 years ago

CKA

ryan1234

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I love the magna save on Black Knight...
When you finally earn it and then use it to late- the Black Knight laughs at you.
But when timed right it feels so sweet.

#14 10 years ago

KXN

klaxxon

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Unsuccessful use of magna-save on Pharaoh: "YOU FAIL!"
I'm a sucker for a game that mocks poor performance - especially in an early 80's synthesized voice!

#15 10 years ago

JLS

genjackson

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My Solar Fire has magna-save

#16 10 years ago

MOF

mof

Quoted from genjackson:
My Solar Fire has magna-save

Is it variable length, or does it just stay on for X seconds?

thanks!
-mof

#17 10 years ago

GAB

gabegabegabe

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Grand Lizard is a very similar layout to Solar Fire. And yes, Solar Fire magna-save can be pulsed up to three times each (until you refill it).

check out the ipdb link above.

#18 10 years ago

VAB

PinManV

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Wish someone would do magna save again. I say that about once a month (ask my buddies).

#19 10 years ago

JLS

genjackson

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OP
Quoted from mof:
Is it variable length, or does it just stay on for X seconds?
thanks!
-mof

I think you can hold it for 3-4 seconds, but it lets off as soon as you let off the button.

#20 10 years ago

STE

sven

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Indeed I think Magna-save is cool enough to do again. Just like a normal kickback: I like the fact that there'll be one in The Hobbit: when was the last game featuring one? Seems quite long ago, and it's a very inexpensive part to put on a game.

#21 10 years ago

JLS

genjackson

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Goldeneye had a magna save I think, I might be mistaken there though.

#22 10 years ago

RUM

yoshootme

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doesnt wcs94 have one?

#23 10 years ago

KIM

pdman

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Quoted from yoshootme:
doesnt wcs94 have one?

Yes

#24 10 years ago

???

jukehero1

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The variable magnasave on Jungle Lord is pretty cool,it takes some practice to get the hang of when to us the button and at what point to let the button go to flip the ball back out into the playfield.It's really neat when you get it right though..

#25 10 years ago

DUG

DugFreez

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Quoted from yoshootme:
doesnt wcs94 have one?

I have to say I don't understand, nor have ever seen, the "magna save" on World Cup do anything (anything useful anyway). It isn't near the outlanes like most other games...it is kinda above the left flipper. I really don't know what the purpose of it was.

Speaking of TOM...I don't consider it a magna save really. I guess it technically is, but since it works automatically it isn't interactive and therefore, not nearly as satisfying as others listed.

EDIT: I don't mean to pick on JPop. I like both of these games, but just don't consider either of these a magna save.

#26 10 years ago

DAJ

Pafasa

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Quoted from DugFreez:
I have to say I don't understand, nor have ever seen, the "magna save" on World Cup do anything (anything useful anyway). It isn't near the outlanes like most other games...it is kinda above the left flipper. I really don't know what the purpose of it was.
Speaking of TOM...I don't consider it a magna save really. I guess it technically is, but since it works automatically it isn't interactive and therefore, not nearly as satisfying as others listed.
EDIT: I don't mean to pick on JPop. I like both of these games, but just don't consider either of these a magna save.

You kick the ball right off that magnet to the goal!

#27 10 years ago

DUG

DugFreez

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Quoted from Pafasa:
You kick the ball right off that magnet to the goal!

So it holds it and it is lined up for a goal kick? Is there any difference from doing that and just flipping it in without the magnet?

#28 10 years ago

JLS

genjackson

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Just a cool tidbit, at the right angle, you can throw the ball from one magnasave to the other in Solar Fire. I just found that out

#29 10 years ago

DAJ

Pafasa

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Quoted from DugFreez:
So it holds it and it is lined up for a goal kick? Is there any difference from doing that and just flipping it in without the magnet?

I believe so. Watch some videos on YouTube or papa blog to see how it works. I have seen it live but never was able to do it myself.

#30 10 years ago

DAJ

Pafasa

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Quoted from genjackson:
Just a cool tidbit, at the right angle, you can throw the ball from one magnasave to the other in Solar Fire. I just found that out

That is totally cool! You should set up a video camera and once you catch that video, post it for us to see! SpfxTed would probably make a cool gif out of it!

#31 10 years ago

JLS

genjackson

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