Hey all,

Been looking for a machine based on the criteria below, and would love to find one that has deep modes *and* a center post (As in mini-post i.e. whirlwind. NOT up-post i.e. big guns) between the flippers.

Must have:

• 3 Ball Multiball
• Balanced Gameplay - T2 is a good benchmark for a game that barely doesnt fit this criteria. the skull shot is just too important for scoring strats
• can possibly be had for $1500 give or take. Ideal spot is $1000 - 1500 but can be stretched by a few hundred for solid criteria matches.
• Modes
• Center Pin Between flippers

Nice to have - roughly in order of importance: EDIT: NOT REQUIRED

• Deeper modes - ability to run multiple modes at the same time or carry into multiball.
• Various Multiballs
• Extra flipper somewhere - prefer classic upper flipper with dedicated ramp
• Awards for combo shots
• 4-ball multiball
• Loop Pass
• Wizard mode
• Kickback or other outlane ball save that can be re-lit when used
• Up/down ramps (ramps that have to be activated to be shot)
• Habitrails
• Skill shot
• DMD/Video modes - can take it or leave it, but my feature list would seem to lean toward a DMD game.

I'm hoping someone knows of some 1990s DMD or even late SS games that fit but i guess we'll see. Need the center post for practice - would rather loosen up the modes depth requirement. I'm sure this is out there though - it's a shame that IPDB doesn't have reliable identification of machines that have the center post.

joking? if not what would you like me to expand on?

As i said, I'm willing to stretch for the right game. Further, the only 'requirements' are modes + center post + 3 ball multiball (and yes, not a broken game with only one worthwhile shot). doesn't have to be dmd, doesnt have to have anything else really, the rest is "nice to have"

it's for practicing center post skills... not just for chill maneuvers but for other nudging skills with a center post. I'm already well practiced with other nudging thanks to my current machine.

as games with modes can be had near the upper end of my range i find it hard to believe that there aren't any with center pins. it's not like the center pin is an expensive feature itself.

Edit: Big hurt has modes, 3 ball multi, and a center pin. I know there are others.

thanks but road show is well out of my price range and i'd rather not mar a table

Why even comment if you are going to try to tell me i shouldn't want what I want, especially when it's already been addressed:

it's for practicing center post skills... not just for chill maneuvers but for other nudging skills with a center post. I'm already well practiced with other nudging thanks to my current machine.

in general if you are going to deviate from the topic at hand to criticize something it's a good idea to read the thread at least.

Thanks. I'll take a look. I'm likely going to end up going with a routed machine given what i'm looking for. doesn't bother me.

Thanks. I considered this but unfortunately this game boils down to shoot the center ramp 99% of the time. no good

1) it's hilarious how big that post is and 2) this machine looks cool zipper flippers on the upper playfield. crazy. Maybe someday I'll try to find one of these. EDIT: you can flip the center post o_0 weird/awesome

Thanks for the reply. Whirlwind is definitely on my list to consider, although is short on mode depth, especially for the price.