(Topic ID: 231470)

M & EM gun game Target material.


By Moto_bone

1 year ago



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    #1 1 year ago

    I'm looking for suitable black paper material for making new gun game drop targets with.

    Does anyone have suggestions?

    Thanks!

    #2 1 year ago

    dont know what gun game your working on but i cut out some animals for a couple of dale guns.best material i found in black was using the black backing from picture frames..this material will not curl or fold from moisture and is tough enough spin,or pop up as targets with out ripping or hollowing out hole to mount them..a bitch to cut out with razor knife but this best i found so far..good luck on your gun game..just got a chicago coin shoot out myself

    #3 1 year ago

    I used laminate (most people call it formica) that is usually glued to particle board to make countertops ( pre-granite)
    I found it to be strong, paintable and drillable. Does not curl and takes a beating.

    #4 1 year ago
    Quoted from belairjoe:

    dont know what gun game your working on but i cut out some animals for a couple of dale guns.best material i found in black was using the black backing from picture frames..this material will not curl or fold from moisture and is tough enough spin,or pop up as targets with out ripping or hollowing out hole to mount them..a bitch to cut out with razor knife but this best i found so far..good luck on your gun game..just got a chicago coin shoot out myself

    I don't need the targets perse. I want to make some spare parts for my Bally Midnight Marauders.

    I've got a laser so I'll be cutting them out with a laser and also cutting stencils to airbrush the neon blacklight activated paints.

    I wish I could find the picture frame backing material in bulk sheet!

    Thanks for the idea!

    #5 1 year ago
    Quoted from PinballAir:

    I used laminate (most people call it formica) that is usually glued to particle board to make countertops ( pre-granite)
    I found it to be strong, paintable and drillable. Does not curl and takes a beating.

    Do you have any pictures of finished targets from this method?

    #6 1 year ago

    original and some laminate I had lying around.

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    #7 1 year ago

    Very nice work!

    All hand painted?!

    #8 1 year ago

    This scenery was done with vinyl. It was installed in a Midway's Deluxe Shooting Gallery air compressor
    gun game. It holds up very well..

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    #9 1 year ago
    Quoted from Moto_bone:

    All hand painted?!

    Yes.
    The targets were all hand painted and sealed.
    I remade all the scenery on 1/8" birch plywood. I used Frisket and an airbrush for the larger work and hand painted the rest. Then sealed that as well.

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    #10 1 year ago
    Quoted from Mopar:

    This scenery was done with vinyl

    Did you use a silhouette cutter and layer it or is it printed on vinyl?

    #11 1 year ago
    Quoted from PinballAir:

    Did you use a silhouette cutter and layer it or is it printed on vinyl?

    It was my Graphic Designer that digitized, and then put it on vinyl.
    Because I had it put on plexi (maybe lexan), I asked if maybe adhering it on the backside might be best, but
    he insured me that if put on the front, it could handle the punishment, and was proven to be right..
    If it was placed on the backside, then the art work would have been placed on clear vinyl (in reverse) then
    white vinyl over that such as this backglass. Black was added over the white for light block out..

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    #12 1 year ago

    That looks very similar to the way Steve at bgresto does the back glasses

    #13 1 year ago

    Yes, I believe Steve uses vinyl, and somewhat bakes it on, thus only applies it onto glass..
    My Graphic Designer doesn't use the heat process, so many I have put on plexi. The Genco Two Player
    Basketball glass as shown above needed holes drilled through it for the two upper baskets, so it was applied
    on lexan. I have backglasses from when I first began this procedure back in the mid 90s, and no problem. All is 100%
    attached..
    And I just learned today that he began digitizing the glass for the 1956 Williams Fun House. Rare machine.
    Looking forward to getting that one in.. (T)

    #14 1 year ago

    Is it a friend who does the work or are you paying for it?

    #15 1 year ago

    After 20 some years, he became a Friend. Although doing backglasses isn't his normal business,
    vinyl is. I pay for what is done and it's well worth it. When digitized, the glasses come out fine enough that
    many times I've traded for new silk screen glasses. Back in the 90s, with all the ball bowlers with poor glasses
    that I was getting in, he saved me big time..

    #16 1 year ago

    Playing with laser cutting the targets. I'm thinking I'll try some black mat board for framing photos and art.

    I'll be laser cutting a stencil setup for it as well!

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    #17 1 year ago

    Is that wood or laminate?

    #18 1 year ago
    Quoted from PinballAir:

    Is that wood or laminate?

    Wood. I am however going to try the mat board that you would use for framing pictures and such.

    Trying to reduce steps. If I can use a Black color material then all I have to do is Laser cut the stencils and make a fixture that I can literally just change the stencil and it locates perfectly Everytime.

    #19 1 year ago

    I think I've found a good method for my tooling. I've got to dial it in a little better but here's a first one on Mat board!
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    #20 1 year ago

    Nice. Where did you get the fluorescent paint?

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    #21 1 year ago

    Hi guys, I'm restoring a 1961 Bally Marksman air compressor gun game. One of my major concerns is that the scenery background is very warped, so much so that some of the targets rub on it and the balls get stuck in some places. On the backside, its a dark red material. I am wondering if anyone and any advice on how to flatten it? Thanks!

    #22 1 year ago

    any idea what the material is?
    Plastic, cardboard , metal ( unlikely) ?

    #23 1 year ago

    My first thought was that it was Bakelite. It's not metal or plastic for sure

    #24 1 year ago

    I have not see bakolite warp unless it experienced very hot conditions.

    #25 1 year ago
    Quoted from PinballAir:

    I have not see bakolite warp unless it experienced very hot conditions.

    I will try and take some pictures that describe it better

    #26 1 year ago

    Ok doing more research it seems to be a material called Masonite...

    #27 1 year ago

    If is masonite, you can get that from home depot

    #28 1 year ago
    Quoted from PinballAir:

    If is masonite, you can get that from home depot

    Yep looks like it. Thanks for your help, now to just re create the artwork on the new stuff!

    #29 1 year ago

    Frisket and an airbrush.
    You have the artwork there to copy so that is half the battle.

    I redid all of the artwork inside a Williams Crossfire Gun game it is really not that hard

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    #30 1 year ago

    I had the scenery made on Midway's Deluxe Shooting Gallery, and Midway's Shooting Gallery
    from vinyl. Made a mistake not hanging onto the Deluxe, but I have another in line..
    I believe I have taken scenery out, and applied opposite pressure for a period of time to make it
    more flat..
    I have a Marksman in storage, but haven't gone through it yet..

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    #31 1 year ago

    I have a very talented artist friend that I was going to have do it with a brush.

    #32 1 year ago

    Thank you for the suggestions and pictures!

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