All true though the company Cost of that machine (payment) is nowhere near a 12k value. My guess is 6k and he never got CE’s.

Agree, the OP definitely has an axe to grind with JJP and clearly is a Stern fan boy. But he isn’t wrong on calling out JJP on this one IMHO.

Lol. Oddly the One time I have actually agreed with him.

It's certainly quite rare, but I know of two in my area, give or take a couple years. One has been family owned since the beginning, and the other changed hands a few years back.

I don’t disagree but I’m like “Whoaaaa, boy! Whoa.”

All I can say is :

Lloyd’s For President

While I don't own an JJP pin, Lloyd has helped me specifically with my Chicago Gaming title as well as his overall contribution to support here in Pinside. It's always rough when companies make changes (I've personally been a part of them on both sides), but ultimately it's up to the individual to demonstrate character in light of the negative circumstances, and Lloyd has been nothing but classy and respectful with regard to his situation.

JJP: “That’s what makes this so difficult.”

He's definitely looking for help!

Is Abess just allowing his kid to run this company into the shitter?

If anything, this honestly makes sense, given how broken JJP is:

PF issues 2019 - "We'll be sending you a PF, oh wait, no were not. I mean, yes, we are, as long as YOU the customer pay for it! Oh wait, you know what, YOU, the customer, are why all these PF issues are happening - it's YOU!!!"

I mean, seriously, after THAT train wreck of logic, this honestly surprises anyone...?

The only surprise is that they’re still in business.

Thanks for helping me with my WoZ over the last few years- You were a big help!

How has nobody posted the "owner's fault" pixelated Jack image yet?

Thanks Lloyd for all your help with both JJP WOZ and Chicago Gaming AFM!

Lloyd is a class act all the way!

LTG helped me with my Wonka issue via Pinside PM's. He knew exactly what the issue was from a brief description I gave him. The guy is a stud at pinball troubleshooting. I can't thank him enough!

Hopefully Chicago Gaming and AP pick him up as remote support.

As well as 8 On The Break in Dunellen NJ

Literally what kind of motive on this planet would justify firing a happy 10 year old volunteer that costs the company $0 per month? I can't think of a valid business reason.

I've been with PPS since back when it was Bay Area Amusements. Which became PPS. And I've been on the remake tech support with PPS/CGC since MMR was announced at Expo.

As far as longest running arcade. There are probably others around for a long time too. Under the same ownership is the key. Not many have that.

LTG : )

Lloyd has a staple with us since way back when ... and continue to appreciate his contribution and Lloyd does make a difference, and we are truly blessed to have him with the BAA/PPS family for so long!

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I’m a fan of Lloyd. I’ve been to SS Billiards multiple times and plowed many rolls of quarters through his coin doors. But I’d appreciate it if Loyd or JJP chimed in here and explained the actual circumstances.

The OP is a troll with a clear agenda. Numerous people, while admitting they don’t know squat, have chimed in here bashing JJP and making Lloyd a victim. I’m sure Kaneda will spend an hour on it, also not knowing jack shit.

So what’s the deal? From someone who actually has a clue…otherwise, it’s a freaking vintage Pinside circle jerk.

Careful, you guys are about to high five this man to death

Whenever I am browsing through a thread I ALWAYS stop and read what LTG has to say, regardless if I am really interested in the thread or just killing time. Thanks For everything you do LTG!

Very well put!

Not sure we will ever know. I didn't quit. And JJP doesn't owe an explanation.

As I said in my first post in this thread. I wish them nothing but the best and a great future going forward.

LTG : )

I'm sure knowing Lloyd's personality all these years, he will not part take in any drama what so ever so I wouldn't expect anything other then his statement of thanks to Jack and JJP which he already conveyed in this thread. I also believe knowing him to be a straight shooter whether the OP is a axe grinding troll or not, if any of what was was said was totally incorrect or way off base there would have been a statement correcting the information as such setting the record straight. So take it for what it's worth but silence speaks volumes.

Edit** Lloyd beat my reply lol, however......

There you have it so take it for what it is.

I think JJP said..."I wonder what we can do to tank our reputation some more, and sell less games."

I know! Get Lloyd on the phone...

You mean " Get Lloyd off our support phones"

Like most, Lloyd has helped me numerous times on the phone, text or email at all hours of the day. It is hard to understand how JJP let’s go such a good will ambassador to pinball. Besides being such a bad move it’s extremely tone deaf. What are they thinking.

were on a roll....one of the first posts I agree with u 100% ..... lets keep it up Its really hard to fathom that JJP gets rid of anyone providing good will and customer support for their products let alone someone of LTG caliber especially with all their quality problems. Just another reason not to buy anymore NIB JJP games

I have appreciated Lloyd's help many times over the years (like many). Not having him there to help with future JJP game problems is a real bummer.

To keep the glass half full, he will be more available to support the million other pinball problems that can come up. He won't be bored, and we will still be lucky to have him helping us out.

He does what Pat says.....

Given it's a new fiscal year, the timing makes sense to make staffing changes at least. But still, he wasn't even on payroll.

They definitely need good support techs. My WW had a bad mini monitor and they sent me 3 over a year to try and fix it until they realized it had to be programmed for it to work. Never said sorry or anything. It ended my JJP fanboy era!

Might as well chime in - your the best LTG. Scanning the threads and providing answers BEFORE we even had to go to JJP.

Enjoy all the repeat questions about Bluetooth devices etc JJP. I’m sure your support team needed more work. I hope there is a influx in cases to the point where the value of LTG is realized.

Thanks for all your help for all these years Lloyd. There is now and always will be only one LTG!

Always enjoy Lloyd's posts, be it technical or humorus. Perhaps this September a road trip up north is in order!

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Because it is.He doesn’t care about Lloyd or anybody who may have received a bad playfield or any other issue.He’s just here to destroy JJP and praise Stern.
I would be curious what the reasoning behind this move was?

The end result is the same regardless of whom starts the thread. We honor the man.

Lloyd, I appreciate and respect you. The world is better with you in it.

Like everyone else in this thread, I have no idea why Lloyd was dismissed. The man is truly a class act and an ambassador to pinball.

I do know that JJP has become a very different company under the new ownership. I'm guessing this decision came from the top.

I wish Brett Abess would issue some sort of statement. It would be the least he could do in light of Lloyds' loyalty to JJP after all of these years.

However, given how radio silent they've been with everything else the last year or two, I doubt he will, which is a shame.

Since my college days in the 90s on Usenet rec.games.pinball, LTG has been bailing my ass out and taught my much of everything that I know today -- either directly or through my desire to read everything he's ever posted. Why I still haven't met the man, the myth, the legend is beyond me.

JJPs support is atrocious. They need 5 Lloyds, let alone 0.

You're great Lloyd, you're also my second favourite character in the Confession thread