Black hole has one of the best since it’s big, has lots going on, and is flipped. Also the path the ball takes to get down there with the spiral and the long tube back out are really cool.

Just hate them.. don’t ask me why, because I don’t have any good reason other then that for me it’s not something that belongs on a pinball. Played on one machine that has it and just hated it.

Same with the LCD screens.. I prefer the dot matrix displays .. I think games with those LCD screens won’t age well.

Anyway, no offense to anyone. Just putting my personal opinion in

You must be really opinionated saying it 5 times

I like them. Congo's could be a bit harder but it's still ok. The Big Lebowski bowling area is really good. Never played a Haunted house but the lower pf looks fun. ACDC one is decent. I feel these lower playfields add some extra fun factor to their games.

The Fight Club pin being built here on pinside is going to have the first lower playfield I actually want to see

The only one with a lower playfield I've played is Munsters. I thought it was fun and fit the theme well.

The one in haunted house is devious. Love them

They always seem fun...the first time. The third time in five minutes though is a different story. "Great, let me stop playing this awesome pin and start playing this child's tiny pin...again". Munsters is an excellent example.

id be more concerned about calling munsters an excellent pin.

No comparison between a Munsters lower playfield and Black Hole. Black Hole the ball actually travels there and back (and you can lose it, no guarantee of return) BH has 2 drop target assemblies, 2 poppers, a sling shot, a kicker, a ball lock and an orbit shot. Black Hole is also a somewhat difficult to get down there as well. Munsters does have a mini ramp and wireform which is pretty cool compared to AC/DC.

Why the hell even have a lower playfield on AC/DC? It looks barren.

Other than Haunted House and Black Hole… no thanks.

Love Elektras lower playfield. Kind of a bonus for building up Elektra points. Can be adjusted to drain on a timer or keep playing until you drain.

ACDC’s lower playfield takes a lot of heat but I think it’s one of the better ones with good theme integration, multiple objectives, score potential/balance and most importantly flipper skills.

Munsters on the other hand is a novelty that gets old quick IMO. Reminds me of playing one of these things as a kid:

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Depends. AC/DC was meh ok but Munsters was horrible. Generally not a fan

Something different on a game that is well done can be fun ... would I want a gameroom full ?... no

Perfectly said imo. Munsters lower playfield is creative but it doesn't feel like real pinball with those tiny little pebbles.

AC/DC has an OK one but I still find it annoying. I often choose songs that don't use the lower playfield so I can avoid it.

Black Hole's is pretty awesome. I actually enjoy when the ball is down there. If more games made one like Black Hole I'd probably enjoy them more.

Congo actually does get difficult after a while and pretty fun. But agreed, the first few rounds are way too easy. At least it's pretty quick to complete win or lose.

Escape from the Lost World is the worst because it doesn’t do anything.

My opinion varies from table to table. For Munsters, it’s something I miss when I flip on a Pro vs Premium. Black Hole is in a class of it’s own, it’s awesome. AC/DC if given a take it or leave it choice….I’d probably leave it.

Black Hole has the best one, in my opinion. It is a challenge to play and very well integrated into gameplay.
At first, it keeps you on your toes: you want to finish one of those drop target banks just to be safe. After that, you want to shoot for the ball lock and points. And if you have succeeded there, you want to get a high bonus multiplier during the rest of your game.

I remember enjoying Elektra's as well, also for its integration into the game. And it flows well.

Haunted House: beautiful, but very meh gameplay-wise. Just like the rest of the game. Not my thing.

Congo is ok. It's too easy if the monkey is balanced well and too hard if it's not.

AC/DC? Don't like it.

This game just sucks in all areas except for looks, imho.

Had a HH- The problem with the lower level is it is too easy to get there for one. You have three different paths you can take! It would have been better if they did away with the center entrance at least. The trap door was clever and something you would expect to have in a haunted house.

Heaviest pin I ever moved.

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The only thing I don’t like about lowers is that they are like potholes in playfields. Some games excluded

I would say no. They aren’t interactive enough with the overall game play. Black Hole is the exception. It actually is main part of the game. I haven’t tried Big Lewbowski, although it looks great.

You should add to your poll, ‘indifferent’. They don’t make or break a game for me….

Elektra's lower playfield is fast and fun!

The main playfield is entirely covered by thick, clear plexiglass, separating it from the lower playfield. This protects the main playfield artwork and precludes any chance of lower window potholing...unique and awesome factory design!

[Currently, the lower playfield is out of my Elektra to do some paint touch up but have discovered I can still play the game on just the main and upper playfields. Quite a different and cool challenge as you try not to get Elektra points and avoid activating the lower playfield. Stay under 10 Elektra points and you can finish as normal, exceed that and it's game over!]

Love that backglass!

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I'll te you why BH/HH are the best, because for some reason LP are often symmetrical which is boring.

Sorry I'm not picking a side here.

They can be cool, but my biggest beef is when they get all foggy and you can't see anything down below. I've played AC/DC and Congo that have had this problem. I've yet to play a BH or HH in person, but just based on Pinarcade, I would go with BH for best lower playfield.

I think for a pin on location the more the better, so pretty cool. In your personal collection maybe not so much. Before I owned TOM i thought it was one of the best pins, After month of owning it. The horrible ball drop entry, and hit the crate, hit the crate. I was never so glad to see a pin go. The upper and lower play fields might not be so cool.