Why would anyone want a LOTR VE? Cabinet issues, clear issues, who knows what's next issues. HUO LOTRs are out there and reasonable given current market prices. If Stern ever did produce a LOTR VE, it would be priced at Premium or higher and would come with who knows what issues. If you want a LOTR, just get a nice HUO example. Cann't go wrong if it's well taken care of.