Because that would be a coin-op machine and be priced accordingly. This is an entry level game for a different market, with a theme that is perfect for that market.

Yes. Why wouldn’t it?

no I'm wrong it was 2 posts

nobody is going to buy it without the Cleland code

Looks impressive at first glance. Might be the first home pin I’d actually recommend to people interested in a game.

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The game objective of escaping Isle of Nublar is exactly what the first movie (based off the novel) is....

I for one am happy to play a game in the Crichton dinoverse, with original animated assets instead of cut & paste movie clips. Makes for a more immersive experience. To me, movie clips & callouts are on the same spectrum as the photo-based art we all rightfully disdain. Feels cheap. It's like if the Sopranos translite was a mode.

The hobbit is one exception. That was masterfully done.

Yeah, it can be done well. Helps when the source material is 90% CGI, basically a cartoon.

In other words the "Spooky" version of JP.

You saying my Spring Break looks cheap? lol
People hate this art work. I think it's so 80's it's now fun.
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We all know Spring Break is the pinnacle of late '80s graphic design. Fake tans, fake beer cans, fake Spuds MacKenzie, wouldn't change a thing.

One thing I haven't seen talked about yet is that the Elwin JP topper fits on this, and is getting some code integration with the home pin according to Jack.

If they don't run more toppers, the aftermarket price might be more than the game.

The other catch is it might be encoded at a lower resolution for the smaller screen, and probably less CPU horsepower needed too. So if someone put a bigger screen in, it might end up looking so-so. Just a WAG tho.

Stern mentions Spike...as in really a 'Spike' and not 'Spike 2'? I was under the impression Spike 2 was primarily for driving the higher resolution video assets for the LCD?

These home pins are not for the collector nor the operator. These home pins are for people without a pinball machine to get into pinball at a much lower cost. They can also try and sell them at Costco and other places to expose people to pinball. This is great timing if you ask me. They are talking shortages on good coming into the US. With less to buy seems like a great time to get into the home market with a title as popular as this. These kids are getting quads, Dirt bikes so why not an arcade pinball machine?

And I don't see a reason for those 2 titles specifically why they don't do a reskin of this Home JP. Something similar to Heavy Metal/Star Wars HP. Cuts back on manufacturing cost with a bit of artwork change. Hey maybe replacing the t-rex with a moving grogru will finally appease everyone...

Please god let them do it just for the pinside carnage.

I said it earlier, and I'll say it again. I think it could easily be redone into Godzilla in another year or two. Change the Trex into Godzilla, play the atomic blast noise when it comes out of the mouth, dress up the jump ramp like a bridge that's out, etc...

As an aside, sorry we're already redoing the game on the day of the reveal Jack <3

I think Jacky D DeadFlip just pulled off the best home pin to date. Everyone has an opinion on price and features, but I think the general consensus is this is the best home based machine so far. Not an easy feat. Makes me look forward to what he can do in the future.

Hope he can take a little break after this effort and come back renewed and refocused with some fresh ideas (did you see the outline save post video? Such a kick ass idea)

Amazing how quickly everyone got used to the new pricing structure. I guess the newbs don’t realize this is Pro pricing from 8 years ago. Only looks cheap because the price of everything else went up so much.

Game looks great but don’t forget it’s like the IKEA of pins - got mdf Pf, mdf cab with Ikea style joints, super simple code, tiny lcd, no coin door, no licensor assets.

If thus was released as a Pro 8 years ago you’d all be having a fit.

Having said all that, Jack Danger did an amazing job with his BOM.

Can you lift the pf on these? I remember the early versions of the pin had to be serviced from underneath through a hole in the bottom of the cab. Did they change it with the new versions?

For that amount of money, that mofo damn well better be mounted properly and serviceable.

Yeah they lift up like normal. That was just those Transformers and Avenger games

They’ve really done a great job of making this look like a “normal” pin though - amazing what great art and smart game design can do.

Never thought I would look at a $4500 home pin and say "That's not bad of a price"

Yes.....sadly the head is a different size otherwise it would probably fool a lot of people. The body not being the same height isn't really a big deal....that's mostly wasted space both visually and practically, but the head being smaller sticks out a lot.

At any rate.... considering what else I can buy for the money, I'll never be a buyer for something like this. These things are going to be harder to sell aftermarket than a severed dick that's been run over by a train compared to a regular pin. I can't even get normal games to keep my interest, so that kind of matters to me, since I'm a fickle bitch when it comes to pinball. I'll probably trade out my Ultraman for a Godzilla Premium if I can't find a way to afford one within a year after UM shows up.

Time will tell... I think the Spiderman and Star wars pins were a lot of fun for what they are. I have not seen any where they had to drop the price to anything ridiculously low before it sold, and hardly ever see them on the second hand market.

This one actually looks like even more fun, with a lot more going on.

Speculating on what will or will not work out in the new pinball market is tricky business for sure.

That's the real question.....will this game even sell enough to have a real aftermarket presence, or not. I don't think the others did.....or if they did people REALLY like them and don't let them go, or are selling them through "non-pinball-standard" means.

Might be my first modern stern...

Petition to make the abbreviation for this game JDJP

or JPHO.

Why would you spend $4,700 on this when you could get a much higher quality used game for the same price. If you also have $4,700 for a pinball you have a little more to buy whatever you want.

I think they should have priced this at $3,000

DeadFlip
Nice going! We've never met but you've always struck me as a really good guy. I'm happy for you. First of many! Now go out there and get IGN to interview you! (if you want that)

Im with you on this. I understand the whole "different market" schtick - this is not for "us collectors" blah blah blah. But then I see "us collectors" saying its good value and considering buying it. Do people actually realise what this is? Even the super fan boys say it's not for us.

How about these instead? 2 minute Pinside market search - first page:

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/122482

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/122496

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/122526

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/122529

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/122469

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/122302

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/122125 ($3700 OBO Judge Dredd!)

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/122440

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/122144 ($4900 Ripleys!)

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/122126 ($3900 Getaway !!!!)

It goes on and on. These are all good solid games. Real pinball games with history and nostalgia.

I dont get it. I also dont care, but it's something new to talk about.

As someone who the past couple months has gained interest in the pinball market, this is intriguing to me.

To those saying you could buy a used "real" one for the same price, well yeah you can.

But there is also something about getting something brand spanking new and putting it together, knowing that there is no wear and tear on it, and that it SHOULD work just fine for you.

You can also get it from a legit place and should be getting support from the creators of the game.

Instead of getting one second hand and not knowing exactly what problems it has under the hood. And you don't have to shop around and find one that is "good enough" but not exactly what you possibly want.

Fact is, there are quite a bit of reasons this is intriguing.

And this is coming from someone who has 4 arcade machines and has done a lot of work on them so I'm not new to the whole coinop market.

I get it. Not for me but I get it. Everyone want something different from pinball.

I was hesitant about buying my Star Wars comic edition pin but I am so glad I did, like others have mentioned its better then the pro.

exactly, it looks fun but I would take a T2 or xyz pin over this pin any day. However getting into pins that I dislike like South Park for example I'd rather this, than SP.

When I saw the title 'When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth' prominently displayed on the backbox I thought that was odd since that title, as most Hammer Horror fans could tell you, is the title of a movie from 1970. A banner with the same title falls to the ground in Jurassic Park but can briefly be read. I figured that was a 'shout out' to the 'Hammer' movie. I can't imagine that Stern would pay a licensing fee for that name, especially being that the movie is obscure and would add no value. Sure enough, I looked it up and the movie has fallen into the public domain due to being published without a copyright notice.

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No no don’t you get it this is a great value, Levi says it is

He's just doing his job.

Good on Stern for taking full advantage of the license - custom shooter included!
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Looks good

Not even that long ago.. met led pro was 4200-4500 shipped in 2015-2016
(I got one) ... crazy how a home pin is now this lol..
Also walking dead premium was only 6200-6300 in 2017 ...

Honestly, there's as much on this playfield with just as nice art as many other modern games have, for a (relatively) cheaper price. There must be a market demand for the Pin series if they're still making new ones, and this is definitely the best looking to date.

No doubt they'll be reskinning this one for years.

Can we get Jack Danger to live stream it dressed up as John Hammond?

If included, it might be hard to see this on the LCD.

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I'm just happy Jack got to work on something cool like this. Because it's definitely cool. I'm impressed.

Moving toy, drop targets, spinner, metal ramps, a real package, the only thing 'lacking' really is the screen. It's dinky and whatever. But who cares, this is for people who want to play some pinball. It's a great place to cut costs.

You can bitch about the price all day long, nobody will care or change it for you. The market is what it is, and for a 'cheap' game this looks rad. I wouldn't hesitate to tell someone they should get this for their game room if they wanted something new and reliable they could just order and get without a bunch of hunting and worrying, I wouldn't feel like they were getting some half assed experience at all.

In fact, I think I know someone I'm going to suggest it to tomorrow.

Can't help thinking that since Stern has the collector's market share and distribution network fully secure, the big motive for putting this out is less about shifting units and more about trying to stick a fork into the smaller companies by making *their* pins look overpriced.