Nicely done DeadFlip - diggin the layout for sure!

Uhh... yes.

edit: dammit, TheLaw beat me to it

I feel like the biggest hurdle with this model is rock-solid tech support. What happens when a flipper rubber breaks? Can they just box it up and return it to Costco? Because that's what killed Transformers home model. Or is this sold through the normal distributor network? If so, it better be a distro who can send a guy out for stuck balls and dead switches.

I'm guessing both. Distributors like variety in what they're offering and Stern already sells Star Wars The Pin on their website.

I think most people who buy these things don't use them enough to really wear them out, but even still the design is simple enough. There's like half as many coils and switches as a typical game.

Distributors are definitely selling these. So it would be up to them to find a way to service them or talk the owner through helping themselves.

I would assume distro network. I know the Stern dealers around here sold the Star Wars home pin, since that's where I got to try it. It makes sense too. Get new customers in the door.

It has been stated these machines are standard playfield size and compatible electronics and hardware. If someone wants the bigger screen and more main line look, the playfield should drop right into any stern Spike 2 cabinet with full coin door, better speakers, big screen, standard start button and shooter rod, etc.

The connections to display and speaker and all that I would imagine are identical in main line cabinets and “the pin”.

You need more time on both of those pins.

Here's the longer Game Features video:

Way to go @deadflip!

Looks like a SMART design that takes advantage of every little thing you could squeeze out of a home pin.

Hope it sells like gangbusters and we get to see you take on a big budget project at some point...
Love to see some of your freaking cool ideas that will appeal to people that love pinball (and not just that want to compete at pinball)

Congrats to you and your team.

THANKS! It was a wild experience for sure.
Also yes, buy all of these so they invite me back.

I’m not saying it’s what I want. I, like everyone else, want packed, well built games for cheap prices.

What I am saying, is in lieu of this homepin, it wouldn’t surprise me that the bean counters at Stern decide the Pro model doesn’t make sense any longer.

Pure speculation. But two playfields, two sets of code, another set of artwork, and for what? To cannabalize sales of the premium. Stern would sell just as many Godzilla’s without the Pro in the lineup.

I wouldn't mind getting that translite..!

Rob

Any distributor should be able to order one for you. Probably not right away, but once they get a run out. Having said that, the premium translite perfectly compliments the whole art package. It's the best package of all of the JP options. Now, if I still had my pro, I'd want that home pin translite for it for sure.

Just wanted to take this moment to highlight a lovely feature of pinside

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There any estimated release date on this thing?

Also, I noticed the MSRP on the press release was $4699 but on their website it is $4599. So I guess the Stern website is the correct one that is $100 less?

This has me intrigued as someone who hasn't quite gotten into the pinball game yet and has started wanting to the past month or so. There is something about a brand new machine that would be awesome and I'm a huge JP fan in general (first 2 movies).

Game looks really fun to play. Hope I get the opportunity some time. Nice job.

Hmm, it might not be the same size translite though. I realize too the artwork doesn't match either. It would at least make a good wall hanging though!

Rob

Correct and street price is even lower, already got a quote to see.

It should be the same size. I believe Mr. Danger has confirmed this, but SW Home Pin uses the Pro translite, so pretty sure you'll be good.

This game looks nicer than a lot of the 20+ year old machines with recent asking prices competing with this price point.

How much lower?

I am in MD so not too far from PA, if you are referring to a local place.

Any estimate on when these will start shipping?

I've had a friend's SW pro in my basement for about two years and I agree that the home pin is more fun. YMMV

This video is well done. Is it possible to re-edit it and put it on the game as an instructional video during attract? Does a great job explaining all the rules.

I actually really like it. I’m a bells and whistles kind of person so i probably wouldn’t buy it over a JP, but as far as my skill goes, this looks like something that an amateur like myself could actually complete, unlike most Stern games I will never see the completed game. I like the scoring and how it’s simplified. Also lots of orbits which is cool. It keeps the game moving.

I don't know if you noticed this or not, but this home game has another set of code, and another set of artwork.

Your second part here is absurd. The vast majority of ops are NOT going to be buying GZ Premiums. There's no way in f00k that every single pro sale could be converted to a premium, unless your suggestion is they drop the Premium price to the current Pro price. There's no way that every single op is going to just roll over and start shelling out 8k+ for games. They'll abandon pinball, and put another Stacker or whatever fad kiddy casino game is hot, in the space instead.....and make 20x the money doing so.That's outright idiotic hyperbole, and you have zero basis in reality to even begin to back that up.

Even in my case, I'm strongly considering a GZ Pro because after watching video, the pro is faster and the only physical interaction I would personally miss is the ball lock and building movement. I preferred AC/DC Pro in most cases as well, and seeing the premium video with what they had stripped out...I wasn't really sure I'd even have been interested in a pro.

You need more time on ... eh, nevermind . To each their own . I only played Led Zeppelin LE ... so I should have used my brain before typing anything . I don't get the hate for LZ at all, but maybe I'll change my mind if I play a Pro.

Star Wars grew on me big time though ... I reserved an LE at launch, canceled it, then didn't play it again until a year after it came out. It was night and day, to me at least, after a years worth of software updates. My only complaint about it is that themes like Star Wars should appeal to a broad audience. Star Wars was designed to be pretty damn difficult. I prefer that, but many don't.

Also, Stern *really* cheaped out on the LE ... everything from the cheap powder coat to using a translite instead of backglass like most other LEs was an insult. The white insert under the armor was frigging cardboard (learned that when cleaning nasty fingerprints off it). I don't think the cost of the license was the problem ... I think it was a good old fashioned cash grab. With the hype behind it, Stern could have increased the price of Star Wars a bit to offset licensing costs and deliver something more fitting for such a theme, but I get the feeling Stern thought people would simply throw piles of money at them regardless of the product delivered.

I eventually got a used LE at a sweet price (lower than a Premium) ... I would have never paid NIB money for it otherwise.

This JP Pin edition does look awesome though ... it almost seems like it would fit right into that era around the end of System 11 to the early WPC games. That is not a bad deal for under $5K NIB given today's prices.

If they keep raising the price of the pro these will be getting better value.

There is some difference with the apron and a bolt that needs to be unscrewed before you can lift a playfield on the star wars pin, in addition to the shooter rod mechanism being connected to the playfield. I don't know that it would drop right in to a standard cab.

C'mon...even though this is a solid home game effort, it's still a "low end" model with an MDF playfield. A legit 90's B/W game with a Diamondplate playfield will always be nicer & despite high prices, will hold their value. Home games don't.

Conceded, but I meant more from a play fun perspective.
Granted, there are plenty of older machines at this price point that are just as fun if not more, but have likely a way higher maintenance learning curve compared to this considering the target market.
I doubt pinsiders are what they had in mind making this, but they may pick up some sales here regardless. If it plays like it looks, it is definitely worth a consideration unless you have heavy rotation in your collection, then like you said, you are likely taking a bath.

Who cares?

There are so many people who just want something reliable, delivered to their door, and they're fine having it for a long time because they're not crazy collectors. And even still, Star Wars Home Pins aren't exactly crashing in value when they do pop up for sale.

I understand what market these are for.

Someone compared it to classic pinball machines.

I responded to that comparison.

That is all.

I do think this looks like one of the most interesting home pins they’ve done so far - and I say that as an owner of a JP CE. More shots, more toys / active mechanisms, fuller playfield, nicer looking. Probably more lights than usual too.

I do kinda feel like it’s still overpriced, unless there is an unusually high level of warranty/after sales support being included for the home user…… which I doubt.

The MDF playfield is a bummer. Does anyone know if the old home pins had MDF playfields? It seems less likely that MDF would hold up over time around posts that are taking ball strikes; or screws stripping out easily, etc. Plus potential for swelling.

So these are same size as standard pins? From pics and vids it kinda looks smaller than a standard pin. Is it smaller in other areas cause from the Star Wars setup vid of their home pin it looked like it was maybe 15% or so smaller in scale?

Why not just make a VE of something?

Does this one have the John Williams score?

It's close to the same size

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I wish Stern well. This IMO could be very successful and for the rest of us in the hobby more is better. My only question is, what sort of dealer network is out there for sales and service? As reference, what I consider as an attribute, some would say is a liability. Pinball machines by nature break and need semi skilled maintenance. No matter what, there are some people that don't know which end of a screwdriver to use.

They utilize their normal Stern dealer distribution network for pinball machines like they did with the Star Wars home pin

Oh thats a nice comparison, thanks!

This looks cool, I want that translite on my pro.

According to the JP home pin flyer, this home pin is the same size as a regular pin - 75.5” H, 27” W, 55” D.

Star Wars home pin was 56” H, 31” W, 31”D

I’d be shocked if Stern doesn’t also make one of Mando and Godzilla.

Other than the Jurassic Park logo, this game has nothing to do with any jurassic park movie.

I didn't see that. That's cool. Now I want to see what else they may have changed. I was assuming it was the same form factor from the images

wow 14 posts before the first moan about the price!