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Looking for my first real pinball machine...

By Daximus

4 years ago


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    #1 4 years ago

    Hey guys!
    I'm finally on the hunt for my first real pinball machine! I've had a zizzle POTC in the past and was never really in love with it. We finally got an arcade/brewery here in town which is AMAZING and has rekindled my desire to own one. Anyway, the market for pins in Montana is nonexistent to say the least!
    I'm open to suggestions and don't have a particular one in mind. I find myself drawn to newer machines and in particular 90's machines but not set on anything. I'm not afraid of a project but would prefer one that may have a beat up cabinet, etc but plays 100%...functional but cosmetically loved .
    My budget ideally would be $1000-1500 plus shipping but may be willing to up that for the right machine.
    Let me know if you have something you'd be willing to part with to start my collection. Thanks for letting me lurk and learn as I get started
    Thanks,
    Dax

    #3 4 years ago

    Thanks Wickerman2 I've been through that list more times than I'd like to admit lol. Anyway, I've been keeping an eye on the classified listings (here and elsewhere) but a lot of them aren't willing to ship, etc. Just was tossing this out there to see if anyone had anything they were looking to get rid of. Sorry if this isn't the right place to post...

    #4 4 years ago
    Quoted from Daximus:

    I'm finally on the hunt for my first real pinball machine!

    Welcome to the pinball hobby! If machines are few and far between there, you may have to ship something or go for a long drive. Pin runs are great. Your price range for a 90's pin is pretty low, even for a system 11 game. (Williams 1986-1990) Some 1990's Gottlieb games can be cheaper, and great games too. Best of luck. If you have a bit of electrical-electronic, and mechanical knowledge, it comes in handy in this hobby.

    #5 4 years ago

    $1000-$1500 really limits you unless you want a couple EMs or maybe a early Bally. If you could put together another $500 you could round up a demo man, Time Machine, Maverick, JM.

    You could probably find a sorcerer for $1500. Great pin.

    #6 4 years ago

    Space Shuttle! $1200 and around. Good theme, fun game and easy resell.

    #7 4 years ago

    Thanks guys, those are some great recommendations! I know enough to be dangerous on the electrical side of things which should help. Do you think it would be better to wait or pull the trigger now on the best deal I can find? The fact that I'm in Montana limits things tremendously and will be expensive to ship. There is ONE machine in Montana currently for sale and it's 1968 Domino...it's fine, but I just know I would find myself wanting to upgrade almost immediately! It's kinda blowing my mind how expensive these things are!

    #8 4 years ago

    Doesn’t hurt to double check on shipping. NAVL info is on pinside, shipping fairly easy. Some might do it if you arrange everything

    For example:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-lost-world-21

    #9 4 years ago

    Thanks! How accurate is the value ranges on here as a basis for what I should spend on a particular machine? The lost world you sent seems to be in range but this one is way off...
    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/79272

    #10 4 years ago

    If you like newer pins, stay away from ems. Nothing wrong with them, just usually not as fun or fast. I've had a few, harder to sell and kinda intimidating to work on. Just my .2 cents tho,,

    #11 4 years ago

    I'd sell ya a nice aerosmith for 5 k if you want

    #12 4 years ago
    Quoted from Daximus:

    How accurate is the value ranges on here as a basis for what I should spend on a particular machine?

    Some people are way off

    It’s generally pretty accurate, low end for players condition, high end should be nice. Your price range is tough for solid state but great for a shopped 100 percent EM. $2000-$3000 opens up a lot more “modern” games.

    #13 4 years ago

    I agree system 11 is a good choice for the budget. I bought a Cyclone as a first pin and posted a thread for help here. Got it running and now I have 14 after 2 years. Good luck.

    #14 4 years ago

    Sys11 for sure

    #15 4 years ago

    I would look on Spokane Craigslist. Its only 200 miles away which isn't to bad.

    #16 4 years ago
    Quoted from jhanley:

    I would look on Spokane Craigslist. Its only 200 miles away which isn't to bad.

    This good advice, I think your best bet is to take that shipping money an add it to your budget , look in the entire region, anywhere in a 4-6hr drive, an be ready to pounce!

    I recently drove 4hrs to an estate sale, was there 2hrs early! And snagged a beautiful pinbot(system 11 a) for 650, you could also look for operators in the region, call them, maybe they have a project in the corner? Or one they are replacing!

    #17 4 years ago

    Haha not sure if the wife would sign on for 2-3k lol. The idea of using shipping costs into the budget is intriguing. However buying on here seems much safer than craigslist. Man, the idea of waiting seems so unfulfilling lol!

    #18 4 years ago
    Quoted from Daximus:

    Haha not sure if the wife would sign on for 2-3k lol. The idea of using shipping costs into the budget is intriguing. However buying on here seems much safer than craigslist. Man, the idea of waiting seems so unfulfilling lol!

    Having the ability to see an touch a pin before purchasing it has its own value! Alot easier to negotiate when you can see it in person

    #19 4 years ago

    Early Bally SS would be a great option for your first pin. My first was a Fireball II almost a year ago to date and I am now up to 4. In your price range, and fairly easy to work on which is half the fun of owning your own pin. Good luck and happy hunting. Be warned...they multiply fast!

    #20 4 years ago

    Good point about being able to test drive and fully test out in person. Funny, a Firepower II just hit my radar on here, but I think it just went sale pending...sigh.

    #21 4 years ago
    Quoted from Daximus:

    ...I'm not afraid of a project but would prefer one that may have a beat up cabinet, etc but plays 100%...functional but cosmetically loved ...

    I think you phrased the project part perfectly. Get something that might need some TLC but you can still play it. Getting your first pin, then trying to fix it for months is no fun...you want to be able to play right away!

    Someone already mentioned a Sys 11 game or (at least around that era)- that would be my first choice for a starter pin. Regardless, plenty of good choices. Some of the Data East pins are a good value too, but aren't as 'loved' as much by the collectors. For example, a LAH just went pending for $1900. I still have a LAH along with the newer titles, and it's been rock solid and still gets played. Had a micro switch conk out, but other than that - no issues. Really good shape too.

    #22 4 years ago

    Don't forget that OBO is your best friend. Make an offer and show up ready to put cash on the glass. Work down on any flaws you find not listed previously. Always be sure to remain looking like you really want to take the thing off the seller's hands then and there.

    #23 4 years ago
    Quoted from mbwalker:

    Someone already mentioned a Sys 11 game or (at least around that era)- that would be my first choice for a starter pin. Regardless, plenty of good choices. Some of the Data East pins are a good value too, but aren't as 'loved' as much by the collectors

    this exactly! & Data east (the first four titles at least) were heavily "emulating" system 11 .... some great games in that genre , but people are catching on quickly & they aren't as easy to find now

    #24 4 years ago
    Quoted from Daximus:

    Good point about being able to test drive and fully test out in person. Funny, a Firepower II just hit my radar on here, but I think it just went sale pending...sigh.

    Contact Daditude

    I know he offered me privately a very nice Bally for a reasonable price, even with shipping I think it's in your range

    #25 4 years ago
    Quoted from woody76:

    $1000-$1500 really limits you unless you want a couple EMs or maybe a early Bally. If you could put together another $500 you could round up a demo man, Time Machine, Maverick, JM.
    You could probably find a sorcerer for $1500. Great pin.

    Not if you’re patient. I bought my first one in April of this year for $1200, fully working and just purchased my second also for $1200. Just have to be patient and you’ll find a good deal. (Both system 11) Now obviously MT is going to be a little more scarce. Look up local estate sales and Facebook marketplace ads.

    #26 4 years ago
    Quoted from woody76:

    $1000-$1500 really limits you unless you want a couple EMs or maybe a early Bally. If you could put together another $500 you could round up a demo man, Time Machine, Maverick, JM.
    You could probably find a sorcerer for $1500. Great pin.

    Possibly a Time Machine. Maybe a Maverick if you got *really* lucky. You aren’t going to find a working DM or JM under 2k.

    #27 4 years ago
    Quoted from drsfmd:

    Possibly a Time Machine. Maybe a Maverick if you got *really* lucky. You aren’t going to find a working DM or JM under 2k.

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    This guy knows what's up. We aren't in 2014 anymore.
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    #28 4 years ago
    Quoted from NPO:

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    This guy knows what's up. We aren't in 2014 anymore.
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    Right!

    I remember when you could buy , DM,JM,or Shadow for 2000 or less, not happening anymore! I remember the going rate for Sttng being 3000, times have changed!

    #29 4 years ago

    It is tough to find good working pins at reasonable prices these days...especially ones that people actually want to play! Lol

    #30 4 years ago

    System 11 for sure. Amazing bang for buck, almost every title is a winner and they’re super addictive. I’ve got a number of decent pins and Whirlwind cops more use than any other.

    #31 4 years ago
    Quoted from Flynnyfalcon:

    System 11 for sure. Amazing bang for buck, almost every title is a winner and they’re super addictive. I’ve got a number of decent pins and Whirlwind cops more use than any other.

    You aren't going to find a working Whirlwind in his price range either...

    #32 4 years ago

    Including shipping in the 1000 to 1500 range really limits you. If you can keep an eye out local, Firepower, Space Shuttle, F14 (probably creeping over 1500 these days but still usually a reasonable price), and maybe some of the higher production/cheaper classic Ballys like Harlem Globetrotters, Black Pyramid, or Silverball Mania would probably suit you well. Even Flash and Gorgar are affordable fun!

    If you're on the look out enough I've seen a few sub 2k Lethal Weapon 3s in the past 2 months, my buddy ended up with one for around 1300 I think. If you're not too hung up on theme you could probably find something like a Shaq or Space Jam but honestly the older B/W stuff is probably better and an easier sell down the road anyway.

    Keep an eye on FB, Offer Up, and Let Go in addition to CL.

    #33 4 years ago

    Remember too,in your area winter closes in fast!! You want to get a pin before the weather changes to white!!!!Good luck!!

    #34 4 years ago

    You have to be ready with the money in hand and ready to go or you will miss them.I just bought a Dirty Harry in Boise a month ago and it was pristine and a good price. It was 230 miles and I was there in 3 hours after I saw the ad on craigslist. You can't fart around or they will be gone. Another way I bought one was calling people that had one pin for sale and asking if they had any more at a lower price.I got my Earthshaker that way.

    #35 4 years ago

    Data East 'The Simpsons " popped up for $1.6k in the marketplace!

    https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/83550

    #36 4 years ago

    Thanks guys! Super helpful stuff!!! I messaged on that Simpson’s machine but no response, also got a private message about a Vector which seems really intriguing!

    #37 4 years ago

    One of you mentioned getting one before the snow flies...is this a concern other than transport? Obviously would take precautions for weather but does the hot to cold hurt the Playfield, etc?

    #38 4 years ago

    I should add, get one the better half likes to play, will go a long way on pin #2.

    #39 4 years ago

    I have to say I’m truly humbled by how many people have opened up to help! Sharing your wisdom and experiences helps more than you’ll ever know...THANK YOU!

    #40 4 years ago

    Did you buy one?

    #41 4 years ago
    Quoted from dc2010:

    Did you buy one?

    Bump, what Dax ^^ said.

    #42 4 years ago

    How about the Comet for $1200 will ship?

    #43 4 years ago
    Quoted from Daximus:

    One of you mentioned getting one before the snow flies...is this a concern other than transport? Obviously would take precautions for weather but does the hot to cold hurt the Playfield, etc?

    Games tend to be more expensive in the winter (everybody is done playing in the sun and stuck inside, pretty much, paying attention to their games). And if you have to travel to get one, it's just easier before it snows, especially since you're in MT may not get one locally.

    Finally, yes, temperature/humidity changes aren't good for playfields or backglasses.

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