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Looking at buying a Gottlieb Haunted House.. Price Check/Known Issues..thoughts?

By jonogo

9 years ago


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#1 9 years ago

Hello All!

I'm considering purchasing a Gottlieb Haunted House Pin and wanted to get a feeler for how well it plays, value, and specific issues to look out for.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

-josh

#2 9 years ago

Awesome game for the time, very nice looking maching, with the lightning in the backglass.

Issues....it's a sys80....

#3 9 years ago
Quoted from Atomicboy:

Awesome game for the time, very nice looking maching, with the lightning in the backglass.
Issues....it's a sys80....

Sorry, new here.. I don't follow.

#4 9 years ago

Gottlieb System 80 pins are notorious for having all kinds of problems. So much so that some people avoid them. Should this stop you from buying one? I would say no. Most of the mods to make them more reliable are easy to do. Clay put out a video on "bullet proofing" these games and has a guide.

#5 9 years ago
Quoted from hawkeye11:

Gottlieb System 80 pins are notorious for having all kinds of problems. So much so that some people avoid them. Should this stop you from buying one? I would say no. Most of the mods to make them more reliable are easy to do. Clay put out a video on "bullet proofing" these games and has a guide.

Ok, thanks for clarifying! Now... who is Clay? (man, I had being the ignorant newbie)

-josh

#6 9 years ago
Quoted from jonogo:

Ok, thanks for clarifying! Now... who is Clay? (man, I had being the ignorant newbie)
-josh

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#7 9 years ago

Coincidentally I purchased a Gottlieb Haunted House just last week Cost me $2000 in CA. Unfortunately pin prices have been a bit high in CA but for me it was worth while. For my personal collection I wanted one of each "major" pin brand. For the Gottlieb machine I liked Black Hole and Haunted House because of the lower playfield.

The game is cool but you probably know that already. I love the three level playfield and elements like the secret entrance to the basement is neat. The game doesn't have multiball or speech (although they used the speech/sound board they didn't install a speech chip). My only annoyance is the sound that is played when a pop bumper is hit, gets repetitive and annoying.

For problems (people say it's a sys 80 but since I am a noob that doesn't mean too much to me). The battery pack on the CPU board is always an issue with any pin so install a remote battery if a previous owner hasn't already. Mine already had that along with a new rottendog power board. An issue I plan on fixing tonight is the lower playfield window will probably cause many airballs that will smack the playfield glass. It's an old game, buy new foam washers and screw down the window so it is once again flat with the playfield and hopefully you should be good to go.

Everything I have learned so far about this new purchase came from http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Gottlieb_System_80

I am very interested in hearing your experiences with the game since I am just learning about these old sys 80 machines myself.

#8 9 years ago

There are great sys80 machines. They can be difficult to repair though, as with the earlier Gottlieb sys1s, and need many upgrades (mandatory mods, as noted) to stay reliable.

These machines were built like brick shit houses though, and the PF kick stands for example could hold up a small shed.

Just be ready for some headaches at some point. But if you find a nice HH, working or not, I would grab it.

It's like the TZ and TSPP of the early 80s, rules wise.

#9 9 years ago

Actually, they are quite easy to fix and make dependable. I do it all the time.

Quoted from Atomicboy:

There are great sys80 machines. They can be difficult to repair though, as with the earlier Gottlieb sys1s, and need many upgrades (mandatory mods, as noted) to stay reliable.
These machines were built like brick shit houses though, and the PF kick stands for example could hold up a small shed.
Just be ready for some headaches at some point. But if you find a nice HH, working or not, I would grab it.
It's like the TZ and TSPP of the early 80s, rules wise.

#10 9 years ago

possibly the only gottlieb I've ever liked (I can't get past black hole's annoying music). It's also my favorite backglass (lightening flashing). I've seen some videos on youtube of sound issues, like this one:

#11 9 years ago

My first game was a Black Hole. It needed the standard ground mods etc. I wouldn't change the experience for anything. I did find a great guy to help with the repairs, but it also showed me a lot about pinball and all that entails. I have played HH and like it. I, however, am a guy who likes my multi-ball, and so for me Black Hole has it all over Haunted House. If I had the room I would get a HH though, just because it would look great beside my BH. Two of the great early solid state games from Gottlieb in my opinion. Welcome to the addiction, but beware, pinball machines are sort of like rabbits they tend to multiply!

#12 9 years ago

Sounds to me like the A1J4 connection is bad, sound lines 1, 2, 4 & 8 pass through this connector at the left most component side of the CPU board. You could have a bad/dirty Molex connector pin or the connector pad could need cleaning. With the power off, try jiggling the connector to re-seat it and see if the problem goes away.

Quoted from toyotaboy:

possibly the only gottlieb I've ever liked (I can't get past black hole's annoying music). It's also my favorite backglass (lightening flashing). I've seen some videos on youtube of sound issues, like this one:
» YouTube video

#13 9 years ago

There is one in the listed for $1,200 on Mr. Pinball in Wisconsin.

#14 9 years ago

I have owned a Haunted House. I have sold that Haunted House.

There are some pros and cons here. It makes a great collector piece, AND a conversation piece. i.e. the 3 playfields, the beautiful backglass, and the 8 flippers. Looks very nice, and I couldn't wait to own one. But to me, after getting it, its looks were very deceptive. Its not a very fast game.

I bought mine for the novelty of it and to enhance my collection. But after 3 or 4 weeks of playing it, I lost my enjoyment for it. I know it is no surprise that this pin doesn't stack up against a TZ, a TSPP, LOTR, White Water, etc. It just doesn't have many bells and whistles. I got too addicted to the more modern pins.

Therefore, you need to gauge just what you get your enjoyment from. HH is no pin for fast and furious play with all kinds of toys incorporated into it. It can become very dull at times (to me). It didn't take me long to decide to sell it. And so far, this is the only pin I've ever wanted to sell and get away from.

I hope this helps you make your choice. HH was simply 'dullsville' for me.
Mike

#15 9 years ago
Quoted from blownfuse:

Sounds to me like the A1J4 connection is bad, sound lines 1, 2, 4 & 8 pass through this connector at the left most component side of the CPU board. You could have a bad/dirty Molex connector pin or the connector pad could need cleaning. With the power off, try jiggling the connector to re-seat it and see if the problem goes away.
toyotaboy said:possibly the only gottlieb I've ever liked (I can't get past black hole's annoying music). It's also my favorite backglass (lightening flashing). I've seen some videos on youtube of sound issues, like this one:
» YouTube video

Nice Avatar Steve, "system 80, not just a job, it's an adventure!"
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#16 9 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

I've seen some videos on youtube of sound issues, like this one:

Wow.. that could drive a man to drink

Quoted from lpeters82:

There is one in the listed for $1,200 on Mr. Pinball in Wisconsin.

Ahh, cool thanks!

Quoted from johnkinkokomo:

Welcome to the addiction, but beware, pinball machines are sort of like rabbits they tend to multiply!

I'm already realizing that. Started w/ Pennant Fever... now I have a new Fever.

Quoted from Bischt:

Everything I have learned so far about this new purchase came from http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Gottlieb_System_80

I am very interested in hearing your experiences with the game since I am just learning about these old sys 80 machines myself.

Thanks for the link! I've bookmarked that page and I plan to post pictures once I find my new additions!

Quoted from Pintucky:

Therefore, you need to gauge just what you get your enjoyment from. HH is no pin for fast and furious play with all kinds of toys incorporated into it. It can become very dull at times (to me). It didn't take me long to decide to sell it. And so far, this is the only pin I've ever wanted to sell and get away from.

I hope this helps you make your choice. HH was simply 'dullsville' for me.

I'm with ya Mike. I'm considering it for multiple reasons. I love the uniqueness of this pin. I like that the theme is fun and family friendly. I also am very interested to see how it works/plays/looks as well.

Quoted from TheLaw:

pinrepair.com

Looks like you'll be needing this!
http://www.pinrepair.com/top/top5.htm

I've contacted them about that video! THANK YOU. The very thing I was hoping for. Anyone buy videos from these guys? Good/bad/anything?

Quoted from Atomicboy:

These machines were built like brick shit houses though, and the PF kick stands for example could hold up a small shed.

You sir, gave me a great laugh with this line here.

Thank you all for the help/advice/laughs! I will post pics when I find my HH!

-j

#17 9 years ago

Usually see them going for 1200-1500 prestine restores more.

I think the biggest issue with gottlieb period is the backbox grounding.

I love this game when I can find it up and running somewhere for play.

Problem is most peoples are not nice and relatively trouble free.

#18 9 years ago
Quoted from Shoot_Again:

Usually see them going for 1200-1500 prestine restores more.
I think the biggest issue with gottlieb period is the backbox grounding.
I love this game when I can find it up and running somewhere for play.
Problem is most peoples are not nice and relatively trouble free.

Cool, thanks. Thats what I'm seeing for prices. But being a single dad I have to watch every penny I spend, even when it comes to Pins.. when its the hardest to NOT buy sometimes!!

#19 9 years ago

Ah looks like I spoke too soon. Did some digging and the annoying pop bumper sound I couldn't stand is a problem with the S16 sound line. So even if you have a machine that has been worked on and fixes implemented expect issues. But I think encountering and fixing problems is one of the fun parts of pinball. So yeah good machine. Sound is good when it's functioning and playing the right sounds at the right times.

#20 9 years ago

Darn it, I knew you'd figure it out Mr. Detective.

Quoted from ChrisHibler:

Nice Avatar Steve, "system 80, not just a job, it's an adventure!"
--
Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
http://www.Team-EM.com
http://webpages.charter.net/chibler/Pinball.htm
http://www.PinWiki.com - The new place for pinball repair info

#21 9 years ago
Quoted from blownfuse:

Darn it, I knew you'd figure it out Mr. Detective.

You're not the only Internet poster I've tracked down!
And you left so many clues...
--
Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31

#22 9 years ago

Best of luck with your search.

Haunted House is a great family friendly game.

Hope you find it and bring it home then get your kid into playing pinball young =-)

Take Care

#23 9 years ago

major things I have seen on Goltleib system 80's is ground issues ground issues ground issues....great game though, I love HH, Spirit, and Black Hole...great addition to any collection

#24 9 years ago
Quoted from Shoot_Again:

Best of luck with your search.
Haunted House is a great family friendly game.
Hope you find it and bring it home then get your kid into playing pinball young =-)
Take Care

I'm working on a deal currently.. made an offer on 2 pins and they are thinking on it.. So we shall see if I end up with it.

-j

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