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Locked coil on System 11 Road Kings

By boneman91

3 years ago


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#6 3 years ago
Quoted from boneman91:

Nobody makes an early System 11 replacement board and mine looks better than the "tested" ones I see for sale at shows.

I have reproduction / replacement boards for System 11 but it's only documented in my thread. I have not made them widely available but I do have them and they do work (there was one my friend with a High Speed was borrowing while I repaired his board).

Quoted from boneman91:

My right kicker coil on my System 11 Road Kings locks on when I enter test mode, as well as when the game is started or any time power gets to the coil.

If the solenoid locks on immediately at power on then the transistor is shorted. If the solenoid locks on when starting a game (or entering diagnostic tests) then suspect the path where the logic from the software and the hardware merge at the digital logic level. You should exclude the switched (special) solenoid switch. Disconnect 1J18 and repeat the tests. If the solenoid still locks on then the problem is likely in the digital logic side (upstream from the drive transistors). If the solenoid does NOT lock on then it's likely to be a playfield switch problem. Always consult the schematic in the manual for confirmation.

Quoted from boneman91:

I Replaced the Q71 transistor. Problem recurred. Sent the board out for repair, came back with a clean bill of health, and problem recurred. Tried replacing Q71 again, still locks on. I've replaced the coil. I've traced both the power and return wire, can't find any issues.

If the solenoid diode has failed you will continue to replace the transistor until you replace the diode. The diode stops the back EMF voltage spike that causes the transistor to fail.

#10 3 years ago
Quoted from boneman91:

DA, I did as you suggested, disconnecting IJ18 and the lock on persisted. It did not lock when I turned the power on, but did both on starting a game and testing. So it is upstream from the transistors. How do I fix ir on the logic side? Do I replace U25?

Right kicker is switched (special) solenoid #2 (solenoid #18).

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Drive transistor Q70 is switched by digital logic 7402 at U45.

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Software input to 7402 at U45 is 7407 at U49.

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Software input to 7407 at U49 is 6821 at U41.

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You will have to trace the signal. The signal is static so you should be able to measure the voltage and compare for differences against the other pins in the circuit.

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