(Topic ID: 215950)

Lighting or replacing start buttons with lighted on older WMS SS?


By alimerick

1 year ago



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    #1 1 year ago

    Looking for info on lighting or replacing with more modern lighted start buttons for older Williams solid state pinballs, like Gorgar, Flash, Firepower
    Has anyone done this?
    Guests and kids get confused Thinking lighting everything people interact/ touch on pinballs helps. Lighted flipper buttons, coin slots, start buttons.
    Not sure lighting the white opaque start buttons will work well. Open to swapping in more modern internally lighted buttons as long as it does not alter game to much may work? Do not think there is a clear start button available for this era game. I remember seeing a Firepower with an Atari lit cone button years ago but likely hard to find.
    Thank You

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    #2 1 year ago

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    #3 1 year ago

    Only problem I think you might run into is lite start buttons are countersunk

    #4 1 year ago

    Nothing keeping you from doing it. It'd probably be best to go off the wires for the backbox GI. You can get the standard happ lighted buttons (https://na.suzohapp.com/products/pushbuttons/75-0004-1221044), and just use those. You'll have to drill your button hole a little bigger, and cut the two anchoring tabs off the button. A little woodworking, but hardly a killer project.

    #5 1 year ago

    P.S. you can still get atari cone buttons, but they have teeeeeny tiny little lugs to solder to. Easier to use the bigger ones.

    #6 1 year ago

    Some are counter sunk. Some like the launch ball button on AFM comes to mind are not. Kinda hoping one of something like this type may fit in the hole and not have to be counter sunk.
    https://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=700
    Or hoping someone figured out how to light the current ones. Was thinking the coin door coin slot lights could also be tapped to light the start button light 6.3volt

    #7 1 year ago

    Find the wires that goes to the credit light in the apron. You should be able to pick it up at one of the driver board connectors in the back box (yellow-purple and red-gray wires). That way the start button would only be lit when there is actual credit on the machine. You could even use a flashing LED and the machine would look all modern. Naturally you would need to use a diode at the lamp socket since this is a matrix lamp.

    #8 1 year ago

    The button is countersunk only for aesthetic appeal. It'll still work just fine.

    #9 1 year ago

    Thank You
    Good ideas and good to know. Do not know of a vendor that offers a flashing led that will fit inside a start button.
    In the Firepower club thread pinsider used a clear flipper button
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/the-firepower-club/page/42

    #10 1 year ago

    The one I linked to will work, as will any marked "Lighted button" or "IPB" (that's illuminated push button). If it's clear or translucent, it's probably a lighted button.

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