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Williams, 1991Quoted from NinJaBooT:Its my guess that you adhere the wood putty directly to wood. I think it would have better bond?
Yeah from the thread he describes this fairly well as you need to drill small holes into the affected area to allow the wood putty to "hold on" and adhere to the rest of the outhole/saucer areas....than sand it down so that it's smooth and inline with the rest of the area. Than move onto those next steps.
I would do the wood epoxy before any clearcoat. And like Pinballerchef mentioned I drill small holes in bad areas to give it more to bite into. On newer games wpc and on the playfield is already clearcoated so you shouldn't have to wory about sanding more artwork. Older games if you really wanted to clearcoat first before repairing these areas I would recommend sanding it all of from the wood areas you are repairing.
Also in your list of steps you have paint / decals in one step then clearcoat. You will have to paint then clearcoat and then do the decals and then all your final clearcoat. If you don't put the decals on a nice clearcoated surface the clear part will be all foggy.
-Jim
Awesome stuff Jim. Continuing to watch this thread every day.
Question ... I have a couple of Funhouse playfields in what I would "think" are restorable condition. Knowing they aren't clear coated, can they take a light sanding to remove ground-in dirt and swirls? I'd like to give it a shot on my own and these would be junkers anyhow. I have an IPB repro ready to go in my FH but I'd rather restore and original if at all possible ... even if it doesn't look perfect.
I wouldn't sand them to remove the dirt. Magic eraser and alcohol. If it doesn't come out from that you are going to take up the paint. Magic eraser in essence is a very high grit sandpaper. Even that you have to be careful with to not take up paint by going to hard.
-Jim
Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:I wouldn't sand them to remove the dirt. Magic eraser and alcohol. If it doesn't come out from that you are going to take up the paint. Magic eraser in essence is a very high grit sandpaper. Even that you have to be careful with to not take up paint by going to hard.
-Jim
Glad I asked, thanks Jim.
I took a while to match it. Started with a drop a blue. Many additions of white and put a drop on. Heat it with a hair dryer. Wipe with Naptha and see if its a match. If not wipe off with alcohol and add more white and try again. I was almost spot on but still just a bit off. It wasn't that it was too dark anymore. Put a single drop of green in and it was a match. Lots of trial and error.
-Jim
Almost done with T2. Needs to go over it closely and catch the few tiny details left.
Little bit of work on. MB now.image.jpg
Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:Think I got it
. Mixed a batch of the upper and lower colors in the big gradient areas. Cut the whole area out in the frisket. Sprayed each color slowly and from very far away and switched colors back and forth until I was happy with the cover up of the wear and the blending.
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Oh please. That's OBVIOUSLY a pic of a different playfield. Right? Right? No?
That is just astounding to me that you can do that.
Chris
Yeah they got rid of that "ghost" parking lot. It was interesting for sure.
Since you're in CT you coming to the start of our league at the pinball store next week in orange?
In the middle of clearcoating right now. Lots of spray, block sand, spray, block sand, spray, block sand......
I spray a coat in the morning. Sand at night and repeat. I'm a couple coats in and sanded as of last night. After a couple coats I looks around for small low spots. Divots and things like that. On this T2 one big deep trail where the kick back is. image-362.jpgimage-943.jpgimage.jpg
I use a baby medicine syringe. Nice control of clearcoat to fill the divots. Once this dries I sand it nice and flat with everything else.
And don't worry Greg. MB is being cleacoated at the same time but didn't have any divots I needed to fill.
It starts next Wednesday at 7 PM Will be there at 6:30. Its part of the New England Pinball League. 8 weeks long. Its at The Pinball Store (Automated Services). 75 games set up including all the new Sterns.
Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:A little alcohol and magic eraser and we are as cleaned up as this is going to get.
I'm new to this hobby and have some basic cleaning questions for you:
1 - Can you expand on your cleaning methods a bit more?
2 - Are you using alcohol on a cotton rag (with elbow grease), then going over it with the Magic Eraser? (or vice versa)
3 - What kind of alcohol do you use?
4 - In your experience, is the combination of alcohol and a Magic Eraser safe enough just for a thorough cleaning (i.e. when you have no intention of stripping the playfield down, sanding and re-clearcoating)?
In other words: If you were not completely restoring a playfield - yet the playfield was pretty dirty - would your cleaning techniques change?
I have a Taxi and am looking for the best/safest/most effective way to clean a System 11 playfield....
This thread is amazing! I've learned quite a bit!
- Bob
Quoted from scubadiver6:I'm new to this hobby and have some basic cleaning questions for you:
1 - Can you expand on your cleaning methods a bit more?
2 - Are you using alcohol on a cotton rag (with elbow grease), then going over it with the Magic Eraser? (or vice versa)
3 - What kind of alcohol do you use?
4 - In your experience, is the combination of alcohol and a Magic Eraser safe enough just for a thorough cleaning (i.e. when you have no intention of stripping the playfield down, sanding and re-clearcoating)?
In other words: If you were not completely restoring a playfield - yet the playfield was pretty dirty - would your cleaning techniques change?
I have a Taxi and am looking for the best/safest/most effective way to clean a System 11 playfield....
This thread is amazing! I've learned quite a bit!
- Bob
Here's my best understanding...
terryb has an awesome site with tons of great information: I've learned a lot there about soldering and cleaning playfields:
http://pinballrehab.com/1-articles/pinball-restoration/playfield/139-cleaning-playfield
In short, have an approach to cleaning a playfield like you would with wood flooring...
Would you wet-mop a dusty/dirty floor first, or vacuum it first? Why? The idea is get as much stuff off of there dry as you can, before you go "wet" -- once you go wet you are creating an abrasive mud that will then pack material back into grooves.
dry vacuum / dry rag / soft bristle brush... get all the dust off possible, before going to microfiber towels and 91% isopropyl and creating "mud" to clean/scour with.
When you've cleaned to your best ability with rags/91% -- then move to a magic eraser which has an abrasive quality. You want to do this once "as much particle" is removed as possible... that way you aren't magic-erasering with a tiny film of mud... For me the magic eraser step is about two things:
1. removing a yellowing of whiter/lighter areas
2. removing ball swirl marks
What this means is I don't necessarily magic eraser the entire playfield. Every bit of magic-eraser cleaning we do on a micro-level is abrasive and hard on the surface. If we just do it once carefully every 30 years, hopefully we'll be ok...
=)
-mof
What 'cha doin with the old playfields? Someone is buying used playfields on ebay like "who tied the pup.! Maybe some pinsiders would like some!
Quoted from scubadiver6:I'm new to this hobby and have some basic cleaning questions for you:
1 - Can you expand on your cleaning methods a bit more?
2 - Are you using alcohol on a cotton rag (with elbow grease), then going over it with the Magic Eraser? (or vice versa)
3 - What kind of alcohol do you use?
4 - In your experience, is the combination of alcohol and a Magic Eraser safe enough just for a thorough cleaning (i.e. when you have no intention of stripping the playfield down, sanding and re-clearcoating)?
In other words: If you were not completely restoring a playfield - yet the playfield was pretty dirty - would your cleaning techniques change?
I have a Taxi and am looking for the best/safest/most effective way to clean a System 11 playfield....
This thread is amazing! I've learned quite a bit!
- Bob
Hey Bob
For the magics eraser I use 91% isopropyl alcohol. I get the magic wet with out same you would to clean anything else with it but with the alcohol and not water.
Can be used to clean any playfield even if you aren't stripping and clearing. Just go slow and be careful you aren't cleaning off paint. It will get to a point when you can't clean everything. Then just while down with novus 2 and wax it.
I'm into a restoration of my taxi right now. I've been slacking on getting a thread going. I will get one up soon I hope.
-Jim
Quoted from smokey_789:What 'cha doin with the old playfields? Someone is buying used playfields on ebay like "who tied the pup.! Maybe some pinsiders would like some!
What old playfields? These are old playfields that people wanted me to restore for them. Not sure who's buying the ones on eBay.
-Jim
Just stopping by to say, "Hi," Jim. I hope you don't get too much snow and ice dumped on you in the next couple of days. My sister lives in Manchester, so I hear about the CT weather quite often. We're expecting 3-6", which is a big deal down this way.
We're having the event for Barry Oursler here on the 22nd, so your HS will get a good workout. I had someone here the other day who raved about it and took pictures.
Nice to see your work again. Take care, friend.
Thanks Craig. I'm actually suppose to fly out to Austin Texas to visit my brother during the middle of the storm thursday. It should be interesting. This winter has been crazy for me. Way too busy with frozen lines. Your Totan is still in my radar. May be moving this summer so I might have to hold off a bit if so as I don't want to have your game in pieces as I move. If I do move it will be worth the wait as I will be in a much better workshop space. Will make things much more efficient.
Glad High Speed is getting loved. Hope all goes well for the tournament. I trying to nail down a date in March to hold one for Barry here.
-Jim
Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:I'm actually suppose to fly out to Austin Texas to visit my brother during the middle of the storm thursday. It should be interesting.
Pinballz is awesome. BYO and no under 18 after 9pm
have fun. Austin is a blast.
--Jeff
Wish I could meet you out here while I'm here but I leave first thing on day morning and my wife is running the Austin marathon Sunday. Not sure if I will be there tomorrow or Saturday night. It's been a hell travel so far from the north east. Just got to Houston. Hopefully thy get us to Austin first thing in the morning.
-Jim
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