Where do the whiners, the paper hangers and the newly minted know alls fit in? What about the disgruntled? The CARPGBers? What about those that haven't ever even heard of CARPGB?

Don't put me in a box, man.

[Edit to add new boxes. Thanks for the feedback Gambit! ]

Don't work for a corporation; let a corporation work for you.

So... No beachvolley girls anymore? Still cant understand that on a Dutch site.

I do agree the hostilty towards other members and well known people in pinball has to go away.

Mods: I think this thread has run its course. Please consider closing it.

How classic would that be...a mod closing one of Robin's threads. That would be like a priest talking smack about God.

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'nuff said.

Brad

We almost got away with it if it hadn't been for those meddling kids in the arcade.......

Pinside is now Manson family friendly.

Squeaky called, she wants her cigar chewing avatar back up.

LTG : )™

It would help if people ignored them. They get off on attention, and people keep taking the bait. It's 2015, learn to stop feeding the trolls guys.

Hey, man! You can't tell me what to do! Troll.

Robin, I agree with and will support your decisions, as I have always done.

Unless MrBally is Robin's alter ego...who are you to even suggest a mod closes Robin's thread? If you ask me...this is what's really wrong with Pinside...this attitude that a lot of people seem to have, that somehow, what they have to say should be the law or what they say is somehow more important than what someone else has to say...

I'm just gonna keep on writing reviews... It's so much easier to express an opinion than it is to deal with salty conversation.

In the meantime...

1) Thank you Robin and your team for this awesome pinball resource.
2) Feel free to block me anytime. Please. It's so much easier that way.
3) Keep it light! I'm on this end doin' this:
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That was kind of my point. I forgot the sarcasm sign.

This is your ship Robin, I'm just one of the seamen on it. So your rules.

Not a lot bothers or offends me. Life's too short for that. I was raised by two sailors and was military and now law enforcement. These threads and fights are tame by our standards. I figured OT threads weren't held to similar rules other pinball threads were. Ah well. Still a great site.

Stay classy Pinside!

I'm just a member.

We love this sight Robin and we support your decision! Thank you for everything you do!

Hey, man...this is a family site. There will be no talk of seamen here.

a member with no avatar.

Maybe tighten the leash further and do away with the OT threads all together? Why even have those if this is just for and only for pinball?

I went through this a number of years ago and I can say Robin is 100% right. I had a car forum that started with a few of us and grew to a couple hundred. We were like good friends who could say pretty much anything. As it grew, more opinions entered the fray, people started getting more easily offended, and some others started using it as their personal soapbox. In 2006 it hit 1000000 page views a month really started getting nasty. I'd ban the worst people, lock topics, make announcements, but I always waited too long. By the time I'd take action people were already upset, so they started leaving. I wasn't stern enough to control situations before they got out of hand. Eventually I had enough and sold it for pennies. Now it's just a shadow, no traffic, full of banner ads. The forums that thrive take control early and stick to the rules no matter who doesn't like it. And likewise, the members worth having understand that managing a large group of people requires rules and it's nothing personal. I'm here for pinball stuff, I can go to a local pub if I want to argue with people.

I whole heartedly support Robin's post. I used to be one of the most ill-behaved individuals on here. It's hard NOT TO get sucked into the drama with forums. But it just got so old. And I really learned my lesson and then some. I think a lot of us let some really nasty situations get the best of us. The first half of this year was especially toxic with the collapse of Skit B and JPOP. You had people who lost money being made fun of, you had people who didn't lose money saying "I told you so..." Lot's of bullying ensued. You know what helped me realize what a jackass I was being? I was banned. Banned many times. Banning someone from a thread is like taking the candy away from the child. It works. What I don't get is why we let some of the threads get so damn mean and personal. Like that night Iceman went off on everyone. Why was that allowed? Not saying Ice is a bad guy, just saying that thread brought him to a melting point.

I'd love to make this sit more friendly and it really is up to each of us to make it happen. That being said, am I allowed to post a picture of my female friend playing pinball if she's sexy?

I would like it to be known at this juncture that I KNOW I'm a d-bag and an @$$hole. And anybody who wants to call me that (especially Bryan Kelly & McCune) won't be offending me in the least. I almost never get offended, so bring it on. (But if the mods ban you for busting my balls, that ain't my problem!)

We all gotta look in the mirror, man.

Is like a dog with no cigar...

But as long as your dog has a member...

Is sending a request to a moderator the only way to have my account deactivated? I can't find a request button on the site.

You could just stop visiting. Or did you need the self immolation spectacle?

just looking for an answer

There is a third option. You could always go off the rails and get yourself booted.

There is a boob in beezleboob's name. I don't think that's appropriate under the new forum guidelines.

Even though it was a joke, I don't see why this thread can't be locked. Sure all the posts after Robin's are fun for killing time, but they're just commentary and sidebar. Mine included. It's his forum and he's telling us how it's gonna run. We're free to obey his wishes or leave.

Thanks for providing us a place to talk pinball (sometimes), Robin.

Ha! After 4 years here that would be a hoot.

Death-by-mod

As far as who I am; I'm a pinside member.

The suggestion to close the thread is exactly what others suggest time and time again to threads they did not start. Usually with threads they don't agree with.

How do you like them apples?

True dat. But the "boob" is because I'm such an idiot. Just ask McCune, who recently had to explain pop bumper disassembly to me.

Check out the big brain on Brad!

Was just reading comments on this whole issue on Facebook. It's sad to me how many people who are passionate about pinball are talking about how they never want to come to Pinside because of all the sexism and negative bullshit. This is the rep Pinside has now in the community. Be a pity if we couldn't fix that.

Pinside now has a Facebook page? Well, THAT could be the problem.

I totally agree with Robin, and support him 1000%. I have noticed a lot more negativity and personal attacks here. I left RGP because it became overrun with trolls who hijacked RGP. Please, let's not let the same thing happen to pinside. Let's keep pinside to be about pinball and not about totally unrelated childish crap.

Pinside underground is so cool. Worth the price of admission ! Right Boob?

Where is this on Facebook?

I'm a cheap bastard. I snuck in.

The ONLY way to leave Pinside is with a giant post explaining why you are unhappy and are thus leaving (again).

Then someone will say they are sorry you feel have to go, and hope you come back at some point.

Then someone else will say they are sorry that the people here drove them off, and it's a shame.

So you can't just deactivate.

You have to put some drama into it.

IMO Pinside would be a lot happier and friendlier place if vendors were not allowed to use the forum as a tool to take money for products that don't exist yet.

I thought that was Stern's Facebook with people traumatized about Whoa Nelly?

The one and ONLY thing that is going to fix any perceived issue will be even and consistent moderation IMHO.

If the desire is to increase 'family friendly' then that is what is needed.

Bring out the ban hammer and start using it. May also need to switch up some moderation in order to increase the consistency and remove some of the snark. TBT on most forums the users follow and fall in line with the behaviors established and led by the mod team.

Could just be that time of month?

I have no problem stating I am becoming one of those ready to leave. I don't need this negative crap.

That or my ignore list is going to get fricking huge soon.

I edited this as most of it was just a big rant. My first 2 lines above this say enough.

Pinheads are an old bunch.

I don't think there are any who are pre-menopausal.