It made perfect sense

I shutter to think this may be someone's lineup...

Popeye
Party Zone
Dr Dude
CSI
Harley Davidson
Playboy
Bugs Bunny's
Monopoly
Shaq Attack
X Files
Cactus Jack's
Rocky and Bullwinkle.
Lost in Space

Hopefully Recent Stern....god that thing is ass, and not good Playboy type ass.

I'll give them credit for the chain hanging peek-a-boo room...pretty funny.

I give them credit for trying, but doesn't come out in the wash. Just too ugly and boring to play.

Still pinball and nice variety there. I'd take them.

That is a pretty bad list jeff . None are worth the floor space.

Tough call...i kind of like Monopoly, and Dr Dude would always have a home with me...but yeah...dumpster fire

A lot of pinball shooters swear by Popeye, challenging machine.

Problem is you can't see shit. The upper playfield and the head blocks the view of the ball.

A lot of machines have that stuff, cftbl and it's pretty popular. But yeah...

The last 5 Stern releases.........

1. No fear. Owned it less then a week . Couldn't stand it. Post post post post post etc.
2. Avatar
3. Rolling Stones
4. LOTR can't stand the theme , music or call outs. To bad awsome game play.
5. RCT just shit

Funny, the pin with some of the best music and call outs ever in the history of pinball, and you can't stand them?

...and the overly compressed callouts that are distorted as hell.

And the centerfold gibberish.

I agree, and I'm not a huge fan of those, but they have other things really working for them. I don't rate them high, but will still love to have a BOP and WH2O.

That thread is actually fun. Might want to create a related one "Which 5 pins you would like to borrow for 2-3 weeks, if only to make sure you never want to own them?"

My list would be:
- Orbitor 1
- Disco Fever or Time Warp (for the banana flippers)
- any Table cocktail pin (are they that bad?)
- BBB (had enough games on this one to enjoy it, but what is its staying power after the honeymoon phase?)
- Qbert's Quest

Popeye is better than LOTR eh, you sure you aren't trolling?

(I know he hates Popeye)

In no particular order:

Avengers - I *hate* the entire middle of the playfield (except the Black Widow shot). "Hey I shot it through the drop targets. Oh, now it's stuck under Hulk's arm. Okay, found by ball search. Rolling down the back of the drops. Dribbling through the hole. Hitting the tesseract on the way down. Gee, hope that doesn't happen again." 10 seconds later..."Damn it!"

Black Knight - Try to keep the ball up top as long as possible just batting it around, hoping that it hits the lock and actually sticks. As soon as it falls to the lower playfield, panic and try to send it up top again.

Class of 1812 - I have only played this game digitally, but seriously, the theme and sounds are wretched. Nothing interesting to do or shoot.

Dr Dude - I guess this and 1812 suffer from the same horrible cultural influences (late 80's/early 90's). This has a more interesting layout for sure, but I don't find any of the shots satisfying. Even the Reflex shots are ultimately a letdown, and not worth as many points as they should be.

I prefer think of them as my least favorite. South park, freddy, popeye, Austin powers, millionaire. I will still gladly play them with some choice comments sprinkled in.

Wow, some people are naming some good games as bad. I know not everyone loves LOTR or AFM but to put on a worst list sounds like some kind of sour grapes. I don't see why people "love" CV or STTNG and don't think they are worth the money, but they are still good games.

I think X-Files and Freddy and kind of crappy. But worst?

If you want to list Avengers, Avaturd, Striker, Monopoly and RCT as Worst "post 2000" games I get it. But have you played Raven? A Bingo is more fun because at least the pain is over quick.

Seriously, I don't think people have been around long enough or played enough different games if you list some of these games. Yes, South Park and Rolling Stones are not worth the room. But they don't want to make you tie it to the back of your truck like BBB does.

Sure, no matter how many times they do Playboy they get it wrong. But even those turds are worth dropping a quarter in more than Roy Clark the Entertainer.

My new hate is Toreador, (thanks Jim).

Agree. People "hate" those games because others think they're the best...so really they mean: "most-overrated". Is there a term for when people do that?

my strongest negative emotion directed towards a pinball machine is disinterest. Well, maybe i'd throw a swep into a woodchipper, but other than that...

Ouch, yes we went through the Jar Jar controversy on another message board. The waste of Pin2K, all movie clips, no pinball.

inconceivable

Thread: Let's hear about your top 5 most hated.

A lot of people love LOTR. I actually recoil at the theme. I don't even like to look at it. I hate it. It's probably a find game if you like it. That's not me.

But worse than Raven, Millionaire, Popeye, Gilligan's Island, Barb Wire, Freddy, Hard Body, any EM, X-Files, etc...? C'mon.....

To who?

To you. The rules are spectacular. If the theme was My Little Pony it would still be a great game. If the greatest theme ever was wrapped around a Freddy it would still be a complete piece of crap. To me the rules make at least 50% of the game...probably closer to 75%. Theme accounts for maybe 10%.

not a lot of games I hate, but bottom of the list for me would be:

1 - Black Hole: I think the name refers to the force of which your quarters will disappear, along with your soul.

2 - X men: I only tried this game a few times and constantly was hitting wolverine in the crotch, because he takes up half the playfield. Turns out, hitting wolverine in the crotch is not as much fun as it sounds.

3 - Tesla (ZEN PINBALL): This one gets nominated because I absolutely LOVE the theme but I think the game design is quite possibly the worst layout and rules I have ever encountered in pinball.

4 - Big Shot - I know there's a lot of love out there for this game, but it lacks every playfield element I enjoy. Drop targets only just don't do it for me.

5 - The party zone: Holy crap, most annoying sounding, looking, and playing table ever. Seriously. Burn in pinball hell party zone. Burn in pinball hell. I hope the pinball devil tilts you for eternity.

Jurassic Park Lost World is my most hated game to date.

So True. Probably could have bought a BH NIB with the money spent on that damn pin... which I still love. Love is blind...

I'll only list one. I played BBB.....once....at Expo in Banning. Had "0" interest in a second game.

Enough said.

Ok drop LOTR down to 6 rct to 4 and popeye to 5.
If they re-themed LOTR to something i liked but left the layout the same it would be on the top of my wanted list. Its just the theme that kills it for me.

Also I'm sure there's tons of games I dislike more then LOTR but I'm only including DMD machines that I've played. Plus theme is big for me but not everyone.

That issue is so overblown. With the pops up there, even a missed shot usually gets bounced into the holes. You don't need to be accurate to hit those two gobble holes. Plus, there are the lights for the gobble holes that you can see that are right in front of the holes, just shoot for those or if you really need a perfect line of sight, crouch down a little and you can the shots perfectly.

He just wants to f$%k Amy.

Liked congo before I ever saw the Movie. Like the jungle theme.

Read the book. It's much better.

I saw the movie first. It really did "taint" the pin knowing what it was based on.