Photo: TractorDoc

(Topic ID: 122048)

Let's be honest...

By eggbert52

9 years ago

Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

59 posts
31 Pinsiders participating
Latest reply 8 years ago by o-din
No one calls this topic a favorite

You

You are not signed in!

Find in topic

Linked Games

No games have been linked to this topic.

Topic Gallery

View topic image gallery

You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider Newsom.
Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

#33 9 years ago

CLN

Newsom

Inactive member

Unknown

11y 32,800 482 8

Yes, Stern kept 90's style pinball alive. And put out some games with great code (thanks LFS and KEF).

But pinball is not relevant to the general public. The typical response from non-pinheads is "they still make those?"

At least WOZ looks newer with the LCD. And it pushed the color lighting out there as well.

Pinball collecting is bigger than ever, sure, and so is competitive pin.

The most healthy pin has ever been? Hardly.

Pin has made a comeback multiple times in the last with Space Shuttle, HS, TAF, etc.
It can do it again.

But until someone makes pins that teens and those in their 20s want to drop coin on, pin will largely be limited to collectors, shows/competitions, and locations run by pinheads.

#34 9 years ago

CLN

Newsom

Inactive member

Unknown

11y 32,800 482 8

Quoted from jungle:
Jack has said pinball will never be Big Bass Wheel. The only question is can the percentage be changed a little bit. Maybe now it's 95% home 5% operator but I'm talking about 20% operator. That combined with increasing home sales will be very good news. If Jack is 30 years behind I-pads (! ) where is Gary ? Of course JJP is mainly selling to home owners at the moment. There isn't a good enough selection of games new and old around. And operators would never want the kind of games we've had for the last 10-15 years. Funnily enough Jack is selling plenty of games at high prices. What's the next big seller from Stern ?

Where are you getting these percentages from?
You really think that less than 20% of sales go to operators?

95/5? Really?

#54 9 years ago

CLN

Newsom

Inactive member

Unknown

11y 32,800 482 8

Quoted from jungle:
Of the 1000 WOZ le new machines did 50-100 go to operators ? I don't think so but I could be wrong. I hope I am wrong.
I am talking about the future. Not now or the past. So yes in recent years pinball has not been in D&B type venues. No way did pinball 2000 have the wow factor of the hobbit. The latter has large HD screen separate from the purely pinball playfield. And most importantly it didn't have pindemption animations. These new JJP machines will be in the kiddies arcades soon. Not whole rows of them but it would be a comeback.

Idk how many WOZs are on location. I operate one and have played/seen another 4 in NJ and NC. I heard that NY has a few.
I don't think that WOZ is a good example to use as they are rather expensive (unless you got in on it early) and potentially took years to receive.
I would guess certainly more than 50 WOZs on location.

You're currently viewing posts by Pinsider Newsom.
Click here to go back to viewing the entire thread.

Reply

Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.

Hey there! Welcome to Pinside!

Donate to Pinside

Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!

This page was printed from https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/lets-be-honest?tu=Newsom and we tried optimising it for printing. Some page elements may have been deliberately hidden.

Scan the QR code on the left to jump to the URL this document was printed from.