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Star Gazer project - Fixable or not? Let's take a vote

By Axaios

4 years ago


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“Fixable or not?”

  • Absolutely 103 votes
    51%
  • No way 27 votes
    13%
  • Maybe but in a great cost 73 votes
    36%

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#101 4 years ago

Did you also check and replace the transistor that drives that coil? That might be the reason the previous coil went the way it did.

#102 4 years ago
Quoted from Jappie:

Did you also check and replace the transistor that drives that coil? That might be the reason the previous coil went the way it did.

Sure, all these are checked and repair where needed.

#103 4 years ago

Awesome!

#104 4 years ago

Nice work bringing the game back to life.

Note: the original knocker coil is a 26-1200 (26 gauge wire with 1200 wire revolutions). Your replacement is a 23-800 coil which has much lower impedance. There is a risk of that driver transistor failing again from over current because of the low impedance replacement coil.

#105 4 years ago
Quoted from Quench:

Nice work bringing the game back to life.
Note: the original knocker coil is a 26-1200 (26 gauge wire with 1200 wire revolutions). Your replacement is a 23-800 coil which has much lower impedance. There is a risk of that driver transistor failing again from over current because of the low impedance replacement coil.

Thanks for the info. I did not know that the original coil is a 26-1200 to be honest.
Do you reallly think that this might cause to the transistor?
The reason I am asking is because parts in Greece are hard to find and especially now with the Corona virus its even harder unfortunately.

#106 4 years ago
Quoted from Axaios:

Do you reallly think that this might cause to the transistor?

To be honest, yes.
Do you have any low ohm, high watt resistors you can put in series with the knocker coil for now?

BTW, you can find the coil part numbers in the Star Gazer manual:

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#107 4 years ago
Quoted from Quench:

To be honest, yes.
Do you have any low ohm, high watt resistors you can put in series with the knocker coil for now?
BTW, you can find the coil part numbers in the Star Gazer manual:
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Thanks for the information mate. Really helpful.

#108 4 years ago

It looks like a few of the transistors on the SDU are unused too. I'm pretty sure you can remove one of them and install it in place of the blown transistor if needed. For instance, the schematic shows Q11 and Q14 both lead to 'open', meaning they are not being used. There's a few others too, looking at the SDU schematic.

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#109 4 years ago
Quoted from frunch:

It looks like a few of the transistors on the SDU are unused too. I'm pretty sure you can remove one of them and install it in place of the blown transistor if needed. For instance, the schematic shows Q11 and Q14 both lead to 'open', meaning they are not being used. There's a few others too, looking at the SDU schematic.[quoted image]

Actually this is a really good idea. Unfortunately I don't have the skills (yet I hope) to do it.
I think the most safe thing to do for now is to find the correct coil.

#110 4 years ago

Since I know a guy who built a StarGazer from scratch, definitely yes. Worth it.
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Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
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#111 4 years ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

Since I know a guy who built a StarGazer from scratch, definitely yes. Worth it.
--
Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
http://www.ChrisHiblerPinball.com/Contact
http://www.PinWiki.com - The Place to go for Pinball Repair Info

Totally aggre. I have seen people giving life to pins that were totally destroyed more than once. Plus that in this particular case this Star Gazer it's the only one in the entire country. So right from the start for me to repair it was the only logical decision regardless the time that will take to do so.

Thanks for the links mate. Really helpful.

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#112 4 years ago

Side bars were severely damaged. Hited, scratched, bended etc.

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#113 4 years ago
Quoted from Axaios:

Side bars were severely damaged. Hited, scratched, bended etc.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

You could have probably sanded that then buffed out most of that damage with a buffing wheel and some heavy rouge.

#114 4 years ago
Quoted from PinMonk:

You could have probably sanded that then buffed out most of that damage with a buffing wheel and some heavy rouge.

Totally agree. I did sand them a lot but the damage was beyond that unfortunately. They had very deep scratches and markings. In the before pictures you can't really tell. Plus that I miss the proper heavy equipment.
I had to straight them out first by hammering.
The only way to hid this was to coat them some how.

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#115 3 years ago

This is looking great. I'm excited to see how it turns out in the end. Have you figured out anything more about the different play field art you seem to have?

#116 3 years ago
Quoted from ArcadeRaid:

This is looking great. I'm excited to see how it turns out in the end. Have you figured out anything more about the different play field art you seem to have?

Playfield it's an issue here to be honest. I still don't know what I am going to do with it. Replace it will cost me a fortune. It's not only the purchase of it but also this ridiculous high custom house tax we got here. At the end it will cost double the money for a new playfield. From the other hand it will be nice to keep the re-done playfield. It's a form of art, so why not. But still this will also need to be nicely repaired.

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#117 3 years ago

Front part ready...

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#118 3 years ago

Custom made stencils

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#119 3 years ago

It certainly has its flaws however I am very proud for what it is now compared to what it was before.

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#120 3 years ago
Quoted from Axaios:

It certainly has its flaws however I am very proud for what it is now compared to what it was before.
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It's looking good, especially compared to the trash heap you started with.

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#121 3 years ago

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#122 3 years ago

In a previous post I showed how I painted the side bars. Well this didn't worked out. I didn't like it. So I removed the paint and I sand them to death with many different sand paper sizes. Then I polished them and I think that the result is really nice.

It took me several hours but it was worth it.

My advice, never paint the side bars.

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#123 3 years ago
Quoted from Axaios:

In a previous post I showed how I painted the side bars. Well this didn't worked out. I didn't like it. So I removed the paint and I sand them to death with many different sand paper sizes. Then I polished them and I think that the result is really nice.
It took me several hours but it was worth it.
My advice, never paint the side bars.
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That looks much better.

#124 3 years ago

Almost..

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#125 3 years ago

All boards and display are placed. Payed attention to the notification labels.

Do you guys like the battery mod.

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#126 3 years ago
Quoted from Axaios:

All boards and display are placed. Payed attention to the notification labels.
Do you guys like the battery mod.
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Nice seeing this trash heap restored! Keep it up...

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#127 3 years ago

All documents, labels and covers ready to be placed

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#128 3 years ago
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#129 3 years ago

A great and necessary piece finally arrived.

Many many thanks to greatwichjohn for his help and for the excellent communication. It's very much appreciated.

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#131 3 years ago
Quoted from mof:

Any updates?

Hello,

I am on the stage of repairing the playfield at the moment.
I am missing however some materials and tools in order to make it right and we are under lockdown here. All stores are closed. So I am waiting.

Repaired an Amazing Spider-man and currently repairing a High speed in the meantime. High speed is also stuck due to a huge delay of parts ordered almost 3 months ago.

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#132 2 years ago

Finaly some work on my star gazer

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#133 2 years ago

It's coming along nicely!

#134 2 years ago

Looks good so far and keep sending the progress details. It's tough doing a project that takes awhile but we you do get it done you will be proud number one 1st. Then people who saw were you started with.

8 months later
#135 2 years ago

After a delay of several months I have finally found the time to start working again on this project. Half way to apply a brand new overlay.

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#136 7 months ago

Hello everyone,

Back after a year from my last post on this.

So after many failed attempts to create an overlay which was the original plan I was able to find the right people to help me out.

Pinball Magic gave me the solution by restoring 100% original playfield. Honestly, what an amazing work those guys did for me! Many thanks to daw6205

The only thing left to do is to reassemble the playfield and finally this dream project will be finally completed.
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