Quoted from Charlemagne1987:

I can’t for the life of me understand why people are making a big deal about the artwork. I think it looks cool and is in keeping with the theme. Vikings WERE violent. The whole theme is about getting to Valhalla, which was the hall of the slain for warriors who died in battle. And whatever the supposed backstory, there were women warriors back then and men fought women in battle. Didn’t any of you see the Viking series on The History Channel?
All this bitching about the artwork is just like all the bitching on the Cactus Canyon Remake thread about whether CGC will make the topper available to SE buyers. What in the hell is wrong with this community? We have two awesome games released by two great companies at reasonable prices compared to what Stern and JJP are doing to us. Let’s celebrate that and enjoy these games!!!!

Quoted from pinballjj:

bitching? nah just playing arm chair pinball graphics designer,

Quoted from TreyBo69:

Who's bitching? It's been a pretty calm discussion about it

It's weird how upset people get when they discuss a product with any sort of criticism, or shut down all thought and make some sort of rant about it.
Enjoy the game. It's only a discussion about artwork on a pinball machine.

Quoted from bobukcat:

I think many of us just thought that (thankfully) people had quit beating that dead horse and moved on. And to be fair there were some people bitching about the artwork for certain.

Quoted from Charlemagne1987:

All this bitching about the artwork is just like all the bitching on the Cactus Canyon Remake thread about whether CGC will make the topper available to SE buyers.

Quoted from sven:

You mean that topper where a man kills people by shooting them, maybe innocent ones as well?! I can't believe people wanting to have that in their homes. </sarcasm>
On a serious note: I never understand the 'with blood is very bad and harmfull for kids, but killed without blood is no problem at all'-idea. And the 'it's an innocent woman!', but a dead man is probably not innocent(?!), so that's no problem at all somehow.

Quoted from bobukcat:

I think many of us just thought that (thankfully) people had quit beating that dead horse and moved on. And to be fair there were some people bitching about the artwork for certain.

Quoted from gonzo73:

So American built and shipped out 20 or so Vallhallas, to bar locations and arcades and Expo.....
Is American going strait into production?
Has anyone got a game at home yet?

Quoted from Vegas9:

Legends of Valhalla voted Best in Show for Modern Pinball at Midwest Gaming Classic!
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Quoted from Charlemagne1987:

I can’t for the life of me understand why people are making a big deal about the artwork. I think it looks cool and is in keeping with the theme. Vikings WERE violent. The whole theme is about getting to Valhalla, which was the hall of the slain for warriors who died in battle. And whatever the supposed backstory, there were women warriors back then and men fought women in battle. Didn’t any of you see the Viking series on The History Channel?
All this bitching about the artwork is just like all the bitching on the Cactus Canyon Remake thread about whether CGC will make the topper available to SE buyers. What in the hell is wrong with this community? We have two awesome games released by two great companies at reasonable prices compared to what Stern and JJP are doing to us. Let’s celebrate that and enjoy these games!!!!

Quoted from Vegas9:

Legends of Valhalla voted Best in Show for Modern Pinball at Midwest Gaming Classic!
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Quoted from NovaCade:

I got a chance to see this in person, and watch it go for about 4 minutes. The Odin figure is garbage. Thats my only real asthetic complaint. I really liked the flow, it plays through modes like a video game, as in, if you beat the mode, it drops you into the next one without having to do certain shots. There are 16 modes plus 2 wizard modes. From what I was told, there are only 20-25 actual machines made currently and all but 5 are on location. However as soon as I was ready to drop in quarters, the code crashed. They filled me in that they are still working through some bugs in the code and periodically the code gets corrupted and needs to be reloaded. So hopefully they get this hammered out before they start shipping. All in all it looks pretty cool espicially when you consider this started as a home brew.

Quoted from Royale-W-Cheese:

We can fix the Odin, or maybe they will with so many sales coming in. Let them make some money and who knows....

Quoted from NovaCade:

Exactly my thoughts with Odin. Thats not going to stop me from owning one at some point. All in all it's a really decent machine.
And I love what this leaves open for the future. This was designed by two guys, in a garage. They did everything and then American decided to pick it up. Stern has been the 900lb gorilla for a while and this I believe could shake up the market and add some more competetion. If they can figure out how to get a model at the same price or $2-$300 below a Stern pro it could be a gangbuster. Not trying to bash Stern per say, but these multiple price increases and toppers that are over a $1k, all rub me the wrong way. A more diverse free market makes companies compete for our cash.

Quoted from NovaCade:

it plays through modes like a video game, as in, if you beat the mode, it drops you into the next one without having to do certain shots.

Quoted from Vegas9:

From left to right: Steve Bowden, David Fix (Director), Michael Grant (Senior Sales and Marketing [me]), Dave Brennan (Service)

Quoted from chuckwurt:

You still have to hit one of the mode start shots. The only block to playing certain modes is the number of weapons you’ve collected. The more weapons you have, the more tiers of modes that are available to you.

Quoted from luvthatapex2:

No actually if you complete a battle (defeat the legend) you get a bonus battle to play immediately. If you fail you have to hit the scoop / shooter lane to start the next battle provided no other modes are running.
You are Correct that weapons are needed to enable the last 12 battles (4 are available at start)
2 weapons for 8 battles
5 weapons for 12 battles
9 weapons for all 16 battles
Thor’s hammer and Valkyries are battle helpers too

Quoted from chuckwurt:

Gotcha. What if I have exhausted all my available battles? I guess I go back to single ball until I have enough weapons to play more modes?

Quoted from luvthatapex2:

No actually if you complete a battle (defeat the legend) you get a bonus battle to play immediately. If you fail you have to hit the scoop / shooter lane to start the next battle provided no other modes are running.
You are Correct that weapons are needed to enable the last 12 battles (4 are available at start)
2 weapons for 8 battles
5 weapons for 12 battles
9 weapons for all 16 battles
Thor’s hammer and Valkyries are battle helpers too

Quoted from NovaCade:

Can weapons only be earned through the weapon shots or are any awarded upon successful completion of a mode?

Quoted from luvthatapex2:

Now if you play all 16 battles, well then you get to RAGNAROK!

Quoted from Twister:

Frank, is RAGNAROK a multiball? Valhalla is a single ball wizard mode?
From what I've seen on the stream, maybe it would be a good idea to add a "health bar" to the battles. I saw it show how many shots there are left but I can't see the progress.

Quoted from NovaCade:

I got a chance to see this in person, and watch it go for about 4 minutes. The Odin figure is garbage. Thats my only real asthetic complaint. I really liked the flow, it plays through modes like a video game, as in, if you beat the mode, it drops you into the next one without having to do certain shots. There are 16 modes plus 2 wizard modes. From what I was told, there are only 20-25 actual machines made currently and all but 5 are on location. However as soon as I was ready to drop in quarters, the code crashed. They filled me in that they are still working through some bugs in the code and periodically the code gets corrupted and needs to be reloaded. So hopefully they get this hammered out before they start shipping. All in all it looks pretty cool espicially when you consider this started as a home brew.

Quoted from luvthatapex2:

No actually if you complete a battle (defeat the legend) you get a bonus battle to play immediately. If you fail you have to hit the scoop / shooter lane to start the next battle provided no other modes are running.
You are Correct that weapons are needed to enable the last 12 battles (4 are available at start)
2 weapons for 8 battles
5 weapons for 12 battles
9 weapons for all 16 battles
Thor’s hammer and Valkyries are battle helpers too

Quoted from DakotaMike:

Hmm, that crash worries me. I had a lot of trouble with buggy code when I owned Oktoberfest. Many crashes and freezes-sometimes in the service menu, sometimes in game.

This is just like Elvira's House of Horrors, where if you actually finish a movie/mode, then you start a brief bonus mode, afterwhich the house is immediately lit for the next mode. Normally you have to hit the house an increasing number of times after each mode. I really like this type of thing, as it gives you an extra incentive to complete your modes, and when you're having a good game you can really build momentum.

Quoted from Jediturtle:

Quick note about the flipper power. I played multiple machines at both Expo and MGC...probably all of the LoVs at each show (and I'm 99% sure they were literally the same machines). The flippers at Expo definitely felt weak. Shots were make-able, but seemed to be just barely in some cases. At MGC they felt like completely different flippers. Strong, snappy, and easily powerful enough for any shot on the game. They felt very much like Stern flippers to me.
MGC has it's own custom made, dedicated power grid with PLENTY of juice, and it sounds like the Expo power may have been lacking in some areas. So either they cranked up the power on all the flippers between shows (less likely) or having adequate power made a HUGE difference (very likely).

Quoted from Jediturtle:

Quick note about the flipper power. I played multiple machines at both Expo and MGC...probably all of the LoVs at each show (and I'm 99% sure they were literally the same machines). The flippers at Expo definitely felt weak. Shots were make-able, but seemed to be just barely in some cases. At MGC they felt like completely different flippers. Strong, snappy, and easily powerful enough for any shot on the game. They felt very much like Stern flippers to me.
MGC has it's own custom made, dedicated power grid with PLENTY of juice, and it sounds like the Expo power may have been lacking in some areas. So either they cranked up the power on all the flippers between shows (less likely) or having adequate power made a HUGE difference (very likely).

Quoted from Jediturtle:

Quick note about the flipper power. I played multiple machines at both Expo and MGC...probably all of the LoVs at each show (and I'm 99% sure they were literally the same machines). The flippers at Expo definitely felt weak. Shots were make-able, but seemed to be just barely in some cases. At MGC they felt like completely different flippers. Strong, snappy, and easily powerful enough for any shot on the game. They felt very much like Stern flippers to me.
MGC has it's own custom made, dedicated power grid with PLENTY of juice, and it sounds like the Expo power may have been lacking in some areas. So either they cranked up the power on all the flippers between shows (less likely) or having adequate power made a HUGE difference (very likely).

Quoted from Methos:

I played 5 of them at MGC, and the flippers felt weak. I was not at Expo so can't comment on the comparison, but some of the machines struggled to get the shot up the center ramp. Looks like a great game overall.

Quoted from Vegas9:

Legends of Valhalla voted Best in Show for Modern Pinball at Midwest Gaming Classic!
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Quoted from cjmjmm2006:

Legends have arrived at Helicon Brewing today!
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Quoted from brenna98:

Streaming LOV this Saturday 8pm CST twitch.tv/buffalopinball

Quoted from Yelobird:

Any rough idea when these are going to ship?

Quoted from RikV:

Deluxe version I presume? Is this one of the field demo/beta test models or is this a full production model?

Quoted from brenna98:

I don’t have sales info. Steve Bowden will need to communicate that.

Quoted from rockrand:

Usually American has games ready to ship at the time of announcement so I am surprised we have not seen much action,
Maybe production problems!

Quoted from brenna98:

Streaming LOV this Friday 8pm CST twitch.tv/buffalopinball

Quoted from Twister:

A jukebox mode in attract mode would be cool ...

Quoted from brenna98:

I may have bent Frank's ear on this

Quoted from NoQuarters:

So Steve Bowden has filled Michael Grant's position ? Also good luck and Best wishes to Michael Grant at his new job. I am sure he will be missed at AP and also be a great addition at his new place of work.
Shout out to Michael for doing a great job during his tenure at AP ! Always enjoyed communications with him via net and phone.
It would be nice if AP would communicate what the pricing will be for the Classic model. Still unknown. Or unknown when they will announce the pricing. I emailed David Fix about the same time as Michaels departure as Michael deferred me to Mr. Fix, but have had no response on that question.
If Steve Bowden could shed any light on this question I am sure there a number of folks that are wondering about Classic models.