New Kensington, PA
Has anyone swapped out their leg bolts for something a little more fancy?
I was hoping for more a machined look, like something with a allen head. Preferably in black.
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That do sell black legs bolts.
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=141
Allen head will just make the next guy swear at you when he can't find a wrench for that one game where the previous owner put in non-standard bolts. 
I don't care about the next guy on this particular machine. It's a virtual. And I won't be selling it. Heck, it's barely even started yet.
I think Black allen head leg bolts would compliment certain games, Centaur comes to mind, perhaps the Pinbot family of games.
Quoted from ccotenj:it is your machine.... use whatever you like...
it isn't like they are permanent...
Use some locktite on Allen head button tops and strip them. Now it's permanent... Wait, what were we trying to do again?
I just wanted to fancy-up the ugly (in my opinion) leg bolts.
I'd love to get rid of them all together, but alas, they are needed.
Quoted from mrofnoc:I've got SS button head allens on all my pins.
Can you post a picture - I would like to see what this looks like.
Quoted from Patofnaud:That do sell black legs bolts.
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=141
Allen head will just make the next guy swear at you when he can't find a wrench for that one game where the previous owner put in non-standard bolts.
Yeah these are a big improvement to the regular silver ones especially if you have black powder coat for lockdown and legs. You can also go a step further and get black leg levelers as well.
it wont help you with your look- but on a on some nice wooden wood rail legs i refinished i studded them (the cabinate) and went with some polished blind copper acorn nuts, i thought the copper set off nice against the wood.
Quoted from Billy16:Those look nice. Where would one buy these?
That's where I go when I need stuff. I actually change out all hardware w/ Stainless when I do a restore. Looks SO much better.
Those do look nice! Thanks for the picture.
Are they threaded all the way to the head? And if so, does that not concern you that the leg is then bearing on the thread instead of a bolt shank? I looked for partly threaded button head screws and could not find any.
Do you use 3/8-16 x 2.5" bolts (screws actually when they have a button head...)?
Quoted from RacerRik:Those do look nice! Thanks for the picture.
Are they threaded all the way to the head? And if so, does that not concern you that the leg is then bearing on the thread instead of a bolt shank? I looked for partly threaded button head screws and could not find any.
Do you use 3/8-16 x 2.5" bolts (screws actually when they have a button head...)?
Your welcome! Thanks, I like em too 
I put them in same as the standard bolt, get them all close to tight, then start snugging them up w/ all the pins weight on them. I couldn't find them w/ shank either. Sounds like the correct size, just matched em up w/ stock ones.
Quoted from mrofnoc:Also, I always got my pockets caught on the bolt heads when sliding in between pins. No such problem with these.
I've ruined two pairs of shorts this way, glad I'm not the only one.
Quoted from SKILL_SHOT:maybe some ARP bolts?
These would be sweeeeeet.
Quoted from mrofnoc:Here's a pic.
That's a nice look. Do you have a part number for easy ordering?
Quoted from Foo:That's a nice look. Do you have a part number for easy ordering?
Never had a Part # for bolts, screws, etc. Just tell them the size or show them the bolt and ask for it in Stainless w/ button head allen.
I have used chrome ones for years.
http://www.boltdepot.com/catalog.aspx?gclid=CNGbqp7e0rECFcFd7AodqQgAgg
I am thinking he is talking about these:
http://www.boltdepot.com/Socket_button_head_Chrome_plated_grade_8_steel_3_8-16.aspx
Brad
These would be cool - but a bit on the spendy side...
http://www.arp-bolts.com/kits/ARPkit-detail-b.php?RecordID=2470
Quoted from RacerRik:These would be cool - but a bit on the spendy side...
http://www.arp-bolts.com/kits/ARPkit-detail-b.php?RecordID=2470
Ya, those are cool. Spendy indeed and I'd be rite back to ripping my pockets.
Those are nice. Free shipping and handling here:
http://www.jegs.com/i/ARP/070/613-2500/10002/-1
And like anything else, you can search the web for the lowest price!
Brad
Quoted from mrofnoc:and I'd be rite back to ripping my pockets
I don't think you would catch pockets on those. The heads are small and smooth. I just have a hard time rationalizing the price.....
Quoted from PghPinballRescue:You'd only need to buy 4. No need to replace the back ones since nobody will ever see it anyways.
That's not a bad idea!
Okotoks, AB
I cannot believe leg bolts bother people this much.
Quoted from ls1chris:if it wasn't such a PITA to have to pull a PF out everytimeyou wanted to move, i would weld up the holes and weld nuts on the inside of the legs and bolt the legs from inside the cabinet out .
Its no worse than obsessing over any other cosmetic part of pinball. Of course, "we don't play the cabinet" but you do look at it and have to slide past the nuts sometimes, so why not dress it up and prevent "pocket snag" at the same time!
Quoted from PghPinballRescue:You'd only need to buy 4. No need to replace the back ones since nobody will ever see it anyways.
if i was going to do this, i'd HAVE to buy 8... whether they could be seen or not, i would KNOW they were different... 
Quoted from ccotenj:if i was going to do this, i'd HAVE to buy 8... whether they could be seen or not, i would KNOW they were different...
OCD much?
Yeah, me too. I'd have to buy 8, too.
By the way, if anyone wants the ARP bolts, I found them at Lightning Motorsports for $18.51 per 5 pack.
http://lightningmotorsports.rpmware.com/arp/arp_fasteners_12point_bolts/6132500/i-516516.aspx
even at $18 for fricken leg bolts? THEY ARE LEG BOLTS. If they arn't rusty, they are good. Hang a drink holder on them and you won't even know they are there. It's almost like you guys try to invent things to piss money away on that don't matter. If you put all that money together, you could probably buy 5 or 20 more EM's.
Quoted from RacerRik:Its not pissing money away - its an investment! We all know mods are worth double your money back when you sell a game - right?
You shouldn't even joke about stuff like this because 82% of this board will believe it.
ARP bolts are hardened steel not used for pinball but racing applications when strength counts, if you want to get fancy buy titanium.
Speaking of blowing money - I bought the Pinbits Lightning Bolts for my ACDC. That was $150. And they put a huge smile on my face every time I play the game. I think they are just awesome, but really they don't change the way the game plays either.
It's kind of like buying nice wheels for your car - it does not make it drive any better. But it makes you feel good when you see how cool it looks.
speaking of bolts, does anyone know where I can source some 8-32 x 3/4" carriage bolts in black oxide?
like these, (link below), but I only need a quantity of 100 (I don't feel like dishing out for a full case of 8,000)
http://www.fastenersuperstore.com/partNumber/442633/CBFT/Bolts/8-32-X-34-Carriage-Bolts-Steel-Full-Thread-Black-Oxide
edit:
found them, and of all places, ebay. go figure. now, my joust will have nice, new shiny black carriage bolts to hold the new reproduction cabinet plastics
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