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LEDs in GI comparison by Collin


By Collin

6 years ago



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#1 6 years ago

I'm pretty sure there was another thread out there doing this, but just felt like I may as well share. I've been working on putting LEDs in all my games (I'm neutral on the look overall, but feel like reducing heat is worth it.) I figured it couldn't hurt to take some pictures of different types of bulbs in GI, and I had my Fish Tales opened up already, so thought I may as well use that. Hopefully this helps someone!

1. standard bulbs (left) vs. Cointaker warm white Retros (right)
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2. Cointaker warm white Frosted (left) vs. Cointaker warm white Retros (right)
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3. Cointaker cool white Supers (left) vs. Cointaker warm white Retros (right) 0710131916.jpg

Observations:
-Any LED is going to be brighter than a standard bulb.
-Retros and Frosted both seem to disperse light pretty well, and provide more light spread out over at least as great an area as standard.
-Retros and frosted are VERY similar in terms of amount of light and area of dispersement. Retros may be slightly brighter, but frosted are substantially less expensive.
-Supers seem to not throw light in as many directions; looking at the slingshot plastic, you can see dark areas where they don't illuminate very well.
-Largely personal preference, but GI (at least for games of this era) looks best in warm white.

My personal opinion:
Retro > Frosted > standard bulbs > Supers

Cost be damned, retro is the nicest, but Frosted is by far the best bang-for-the-buck.

#2 6 years ago

Where are the pics?

#3 6 years ago
Quoted from bearsfan27:

Where are the pics?

Use your imagination!

They were lost in (cyber) space.

#4 6 years ago

not seeing to much difference

#5 6 years ago

dang...going to have to experiment with the retros...the supers seem to spill more out of the sides of the slings where the retros have less spill and more illumination in the plastic...

nice work...thanks for posting

#6 6 years ago
Quoted from dementedwarlok:

not seeing to much difference

Most of the differences are rather subtle; I added some conclusions to the first post.

#7 6 years ago

yeah I am thinking the same I would like those for this EM i just bought they are pricey but look to be well worth it.

#8 6 years ago
Quoted from burningman:

dang...going to have to experiment with the retros...the supers seem to spill more out of the sides of the slings where the retros have less spill and more illumination in the plastic...
nice work...thanks for posting

Yeah, and the evenness of how the light is dispersed really makes the retros and frosted better. For GI, the supers kinda look like ass, in comparison.

#9 6 years ago
Quoted from dementedwarlok:

yeah I am thinking the same I would like those for this EM i just bought they are pricey but look to be well worth it.

I've got a Gottlieb Totem ('79, Solid State, but very similar look to an EM.) The retros look great in inserts, but frosted are perfectly sufficient. Retros above the playfield keep the original look of the game and improve brightness enough to be well worth it, in my mind.

#10 6 years ago

Nice comparison and write up, thanks!

#11 6 years ago

Nice work. Thanks.

#12 6 years ago

Thanks again Collin...I have a ton of supers in my CFTBL and Dredd...but was looking for something nice but not over the top for the Elektra, Gorgar, and Flash...looks like the retros are going to be the way to go for the GI on them.

#13 6 years ago

Don't forget the 2-LED (dome style) from CT. They look like Retros but are cheaper and don't blow your eyesockets out if you look at them directly. I prefer these in most areas for GI. If I need brighter in areas where the light won't be seen directly by the eye (under plastics), Retros are good but it's also worth trying Pinball Life 4-LEDs. The spread is great and they don't "spot".

#14 6 years ago

Burningman, I'll do something similar with Space Shuttle soon - I've already got some pictures of different LEDs in the inserts of that one, and will do the same with the GI in a bit.

#15 6 years ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

Don't for get the 2-LED (dome style) from CT. They look like Retros but are cheaper and don't blow your eyesockets out if you look at them directly. I prefer these in most areas for GI. If I need brighter in areas where the light won't be seen directly by the eye (under plastics), Retros are good but it's also worth trying Pinball Life 4-LEDs. The spread is great and they don't "spot".

Whoa, good call on that! I'd totally overlooked those, and am kicking myself for that now. It looks like those are only available under the GI section (which I'd passed up while looking at the other type-specific sections.) Next time I order from Cointaker, I'll snag some of those.

#16 6 years ago

Hey Collin...if you don't mind keep us posted as you try different LED's...

I am finishing up getting ready to tear down Dredd...but already have the LED kits for it so its going to be few weeks before I order up the older games LED's...

#17 6 years ago
Quoted from Collin:

Whoa, good call on that! I'd totally overlooked those, and am kicking myself for that now. It looks like those are only available under the GI section (which I'd passed up while looking at the other type-specific sections.) Next time I order from Cointaker, I'll snag some of those.

Something else to consider - while a Retro might not hit your eye from the players perspective (under slings, for example) - if you have a bunch of games in a row, they might hit your eye while playing another game. Another reason I like the 2-LED ones. They offer the same "feel" and spread of a Retro due to the old-school bulb dome...but are just less harsh on the eye. I tried retros at first and they did look great...but then I played a game next to that game and my eye was just drawn to the intensity of the game next to me, distracting me from the one I was playing.

#18 6 years ago

Great comparisons, thanks for the post. I've been wanting to put some LEDs in my games but don't want to spend the money on a bunch of different types to see which ones look the best. I actually liked the look of the frosted the best.

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