In. The logo looks awesome.

I hear people say this and I don't get it. I have GOTLE, ACDC Premium, and SWLE and they're all completely different. You can't say they all have full orbits. You can't say they all have upper playfields or lower playfields. And you can't say the ramps are all in the same location. If you mean they all have fan layouts, then yep...I guess you're right.

Cabinet=great
Armor color=vomit

You'll see it in about two years at a cost of $1500.

You're supposed to take it out first before you play with it.

There's always one...thanks for stopping by the LE thread to shit on our enthusiasm.

Glad to see people cancel their orders based on artwork. I completely get that since I cancel my artwork orders based on how they play.

Still in on my LE, still pumped, never bailing.

Congrats. And I notice the pin matches your avatar. (It matches phil-lee 's too!)

I'm telling you...that fucking blue grows on you.

No...they got it from yours and phil-lee 's avatars.

Don't tell me the Pinside negativity got to you! If I did that, I wouldn't own half my collection...and I love every one of them.

(I personally think too many people around here are smoking WAY too much weed...)

But then it'll clash with the blue on the backbox.

I just ordered a t-shirt so I can be cohesive with my game and tell people, "Hey...F you, man. It's not ugly--those colors work well together!"

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Doesn't matter if you get it from Amazon or the company itself, liquidblue.com - it's backordered so there's a wait. I'm thinking not because of Christmas but because so many LE owners ordered it so they could dress like their game.

Why does it bother you so much? I don't give a rats ass what anybody else buys...and why are you in an owners thread? I'm excited for the game and don't feel like they phoned it in. And since I put my money where my mouth is, that's all that matters.

I paid in full for the same reason. Hopefully our snow melts so I can actually get it in the basement.

I'm going to swap the armor with my JPLE. When I see how perfectly hideous that dark green looks on LZ, I'll swap it back and appreciate the blue that much more.

He likes to pretend.

Oh, c'mon, now...chin up. We're just busting your balls a bit. It's not like you deleted the errant post or anything. Just sayin'.

Well, then, you get what you give.

Decision? I've paid in full!

EDIT: It occurs to me that since this IS an owners' thread, it would be a great place to make fun of the people who are making fun of us (not by name, of course, since that's against Pinside rules). They can't really respond because you're supposed to be an owner to post here. Tick tock the game is locked.

You just described AFM as well. What model of LZ did you order?

That blue is a shade darker in person than it was in the Stern promo shots...and that's MUCH better!

Thank you. I knew that already, which is why I cynically asked the question. This is the owners thread, so you can join the other 5 people that are non-stop bashing the game and trolling excited owners in the hype thread.

And btw...your ramp comment described a ton of pinball games, not just AFM. I can think of a few offhand that have ramp returns on each side of the game, so your troll post was uninformed at best.

EDIT: Never mind. Not worth my time.

I've heard nothing yet.

Kashmir

Yeah...but you can't say it's growing on you because GnR owners will chime in and ridicule you.

I hate you.

Did you save the rubber kit you designed on Titan's website so others can pay homage to your brilliant choice of colors? I'd like to get a set for mine but haven't gotten the game yet so I don't know how many of each to get.

Many thanks for that!

Don't you always have to pay up front for a machine?

I was first asked to pay a deposit. Sent it, but since USPS couldn't even deliver my priority letter in less than 10 days, I was just asked to send the whole thing due to the demand on the LEs and because they'd be shipping within the month. I don't really care when I pay...as long as I don't lose my spot on a game I really want.

Somebody's gonna get video of my shaking my ass while I'm playing to Trampled Under Foot. And if it gets posted on social media, you won't be able to unsee that.

SW is a perfect example. The pro on that game is a little TOO little, but with the hyperloop it's epic. I know people have been dissing the Electric Magic spinner, but to me it looks like fun charging up that magnet.

...and you're in the owners thread because....???

He hasn't in the past. That was my concern.

I'm right there with you, my friend. But that ain't no coffee table book. It's a magazine.

I'm not waiting for it. I'm from Jersey. If nothing else, we're really good at sniffing out scams here in the Scam State.

...and I'm a vote for Pinnovators. Have them in most of my games.

Heaven.

Or he paid his dues working in Hell. I wouldn't want that job.

Automated almost always is the last to have LEs. And they jack the price accordingly as their stock goes down. Guaranteed the last couple will be over 10k. It's how I lost my shirt buying a WOZ ECLE from them. Glad I got one, but I paid dearly for it.

I'll never see the wizard mode because I suck. So I don't care what song it is.

Honor prevents me.

The only time I ever do that is if I'm about to sell the game and haven't achieved wizard mode yet.

I'm getting one because it completes the LE package. Nobody should need to convince you of anything. But what if you're wrong?

Wait...so you're saying I'm NOT an idiot if I don't agree with a game in the Top 10???

On the east coast, they're predicting some sort of coastal storm to roll in Sunday into Monday that could dump some serious snow. Since God hates me, you can plan on LEs arriving early next week when I can't get it into the basement until March.

As long as it came back to me with some free Lermods in it, that wouldn't be such a bad thing.

Sorry...but I've just gotta drop this here. It was too cute to pass up...

Posted this 4 days ago. We're getting that slow moving storm Monday into Tuesday...and I can guarantee they call me to tell me it's arriving one of those days, if not the day after. So it will sit in my house, in a box, until the snow melts and the ground refreezes so I don't sink into the mud. I'll be sure to post pictures of the box that I'll be staring at for a month so you can all ooh and ahh...

You got Steve's attention, Mark! Here's what he said on FB:

MORE INFO ON LED ZEPPELIN PINBALL

I see that Mark on Pinside posted about his Electric Magic unit rising just slightly above the playfield level, and it caused some airball trouble. Here's how to prevent it for now:

When starting a game for the first time, look carefully to see that the EM is flush with the playfield before launching a ball. If it not flush, slide the playfield glass back enough so that you can hit the LED and ZEP targets with your fingers. The EM unit will rise to full height. Close the glass, and resume normal play. The EM unit will now be synched up to work correctly.

We are working on a software fix for this problem.

To clarify an EM spinner adjustment, I use a pair of needle nose pliers to spread the side brackets right above where the spinner wires go through the bracket. I adjusted mine long ago on the game I have been testing, and the spinner has caused no further problems. Yours can be adjusted just like mine.

-Steve

It's right on his page. His posts may not be accessible to people who aren't on his friends list; I don't know how he has his page set for privacy. But he saw that we copied his posts here and put a thank you post up. I love that guy...

Yep. (Not that I would know...I haven't gotten mine yet.)

I'm almost embarrassed that I was one of the people that found it atrocious when the pictures were first released.

I got what they were going for in the color scheme, but the placement of the blue armor clashed with the orange/red on the top part of the cabinet. Also, the Stern pictures made it look like a barfable powder blue...not nearly as dark as it actually is.

Supposedly my LZ shipped out yesterday. Last night there was a tractor trailer accident where the truck went off the road in Pittsburgh. That's between Chicago and Jersey. My wife pointed at the screen and laughingly said, "That's your pinball machine!!!"

Bitch.

*Disclaimer: I love my wife.
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Getting the game Friday. I'm not getting how a spinner can be this borked. It's a freaking spinner...wouldn't it behave the same way any spinner would?

I guess I'm about to find out...but it still can't be as bad as the TK ball lock on STh or the orbit problems on GOT, both of which I've had to suffer through.

And my, how the tide has turned. Happiness here in the LZ thread, with the exception of some tweaks or some out of box issues, and LEs are selling for above MSRP. Meanwhile, GnR $1000 price hikes and no games until summer. I don't care what the GnR fanboys say...I'm really glad I got the LZ and it's going nowhere for a long, long while if at all.

They are pretty and have a wow factor. But that doesn't keep you hitting the start button.

I think just because people are viewing it as just a souped up version of Pinstadiums. But they are interactive with the game, and that's pretty awesome.

Exactly what I was going to say. I usually set my pitch for games at 7+, so I doubt the ball will be getting hung up on anything except the trough.

Well, I'm just as excited to get my game as I am to find out what fresh Stern hell awaits me with this game. I'm still wrestling with my STh a year later, and every game I've gotten has always had some tweak that needs to get done to make it work properly. It's all part of the journey!

But the ball hangup thing hasn't been mentioned before, so that may be a game-specific thing on the one you played.

Anybody that just got their LE: Are these shipping with .91 or .93?

I've seen Stern bork a playfield, spinner, orbit, T-Rex, and a TK lock...but I've never seen them f**k up a certificate.

Actually, looking at yours, it looks like the arm enters the spinner lower on the right side than on the left, which is why the whole thing looks wonky. Especially when you compare it with the picture from sepins just below yours.

#17 in the house! The Saia warehouse, that is. Waited all day and got nothing. Called them at 4:30 and they said they were "going to give me a courtesy call" at 5 (after waiting all day) to say the delivery had been pushed to Monday. Can I come pick it up? Nope. It's already locked on the delivery truck for Monday.

Congrats to all who got theirs...I'm jealous.

If anybody needs me, I'll be in the kitchen with my head in the oven.

What are you guys using to lube the spinner? I usually use a tiny bit of Superlube synthetic, but that's not really an "oil."

Also, anybody install the Pinwoofer GT Super kit? Wondering how improved the sound is...I'm about to get one. After all, it IS a music pin.

Screw it. I'm just taking the plunge on this. It's a music pin; it deserves the best sound possible.

I have issues with a weak shooter rod, but that's tied directly to the age of my "game."

I have no issues with the Zeppelin shooter rod because I don't have one yet. So...hooray?

I just ordered a 3'x5' one of these to go under the machine. I'm sure Doctor6 will think it's "super-gay."

https://inkteeshop.com/product/led-zeppelin-area-rug-amazon-best-seller-sku-2430-rug/

Finally got my game after being lied to (twice!) by the shippers, then having to drive to the sketchy parts of NJ to pick it up from another shipper's warehouse...and waiting 45 minutes in the cold for them to unload it from the truck. Got it home, set it up, and it played nearly flawlessly out of the box. (Ball just hung up on the front lip of the EM mech).

My buddy and I started out first game with my wife looking on. The first faux-British callout made everybody look at each other like, "What the f**k???" We all thought they were the most annoying callouts ever. So I went into the settings and changed the attenuation on the music and callouts and the game was pretty epic after that point. Now my friend wants one, and he's so cash poor now, he can barely afford to pay attention.

Good God...somebody get someone that's actually British and not sounding like a pretentious prick to do the callouts. It's really the worst part of the game.

Hell, at this point I'd take the sheriff from Stranger Things...and he sounds like he's half asleep.

"Um...yeah...jackpot."

What the hell is THAT???

Oh...did you photoshop that? I thought it was in the game, which is why I got all excited.

Yeah...I took Psw757 's hint. Sorry about that. It's a feature I never use, which is why I didn't even consider it. Duh.

You can.

Oh, it'll grow on you alright. Read through the 11 pages of rules Stern posted...it'll give you a better idea of how to think when you're playing. The suggestion to move along to the next song after 5 gold records was a good one as well.

PS - I LOVE that when you finish a tour mode, the poster says "Sold Out" the next time the menu comes up. Really nice touch!

Anybody else having issues with Icarus binding up and not jumping? I took it out, greased it (SuperLube), and put it back in. He jumped for the first few times, then got stuck, then jumped again. Not sure if the slots he rides in are lined up right or not. Has anyone seen this?

Thank you! That would have driven me nuts. And in return, let me say that Lermods hermit is an awesome mod. For those of you considering getting Mezel's Big Ben mod, you can get both. Big Ben goes in the right back corner and the hermit fits beautifully facing the playfield just in front of the upper flipper (so it looks exactly like the picture!).

Thanks for some awesome work, Rob, and for the info on the dickless wonder.

Oh...and wouldn't it be easier just to widen the slot with a small file?

Have you read the rulesheet? There has never been a game that's connected to the music as much as this game. The shots actually change with each section of the song (verse, chorus, bridge, solo). It's pretty amazing. If you haven't checked out the rulesheet, read all 11 pages. You'll be glad you did.

Update on the Icarus-jam problem: Before I removed it to sand the rod as suggested by a helpful Pinsider, I loosened the screw on the top of the assembly just a touch (the one just in front of Icarus). He worked perfectly after that...no sanding required. You just can't overtighten that screw. BUT...if you don't reinstall it without some blue Loctite, you run the risk of it falling out with all the vibration coming off that thing.

Just a suggestion for anyone with that problem. Back the screw off a bit until he's moving freely, or reinstall not as tight with Loctite on the threads for peace of mind.

I just want to give kudos to Pinwoofer for an incredible speaker and amp setup. The settings given earlier in this thread were fantastic. I just have to tweak mine since I'm also using a 12" Costco Klipsch subwoofer in tandem with Pinwoofer. Haven't found the sweet spot that removes any standing waves, and while I know I don't REALLY need the extra sub, it does add a nice rumble to the game.

Pinwoofer is professionally assembled, packed, and supported. The installation video is fantastic, and I have to say that EVERY company should support their products as well as Dan does. Truly amazing that you can reach him by phone throughout most of the day, and I really appreciate his patience. (The guy must get the same damn questions all week...)

Highly recommended! And yes...I know that between the Pinwoofer and Klipsch, I spent another $500 on the game. But it's a music pin by an amazing band and IMO it deserves the very best. THANKS DAN!!!

I don't like you very much right now.

I keep moving it because for me, the music is never loud enough - but when you jack the music, the sound effects blow the roof off your house. And I don't think there's a way to balance those two...they both get louder. I keep moving the speech one along with it, trying to find that sweet spot where I can hear what they're telling me to do, but I don't REALLY have to hear that horrible fake British accent.

You have to read the rulesheet that Stern put out. I've read it, and I still can't get gold records for some reason.

Yeah, if you were missing a nut, that was TOTALLY wrong. But I just think it's weird that all I had to do was back that screw off just a hair in front of Icarus and it fixed everything. Easiest thing ever.

It's those two side by side USB inputs on the CPU board. You put it in first and THEN turned the game on, right?

Also, making sure you unzipped the downloaded files and dragged all three folders into the root directory of your USB. That makes a difference as well.

Took the words outta my mouth. The problem is it appears that anything with the zeppelin logo or symbols on it are being shut down. They REALLY are tight with that license...

Well, there's a first time for everything...

I was playing this game tonight and not holding the ball on my flipper at all. I mean...I was really trying. I bricked so many shots in a row that the game went into ball search right in the middle of my ball. FML...

This is correct. I was going to post a bunch of diagrams showing what happens, but you beat me to it. If your ball hits the bottom of the spinner as it's spinning, that's when the problem occurs because the upward force on the bashed spinner slowly bends the arms down, which causes the bottom of the spinner to hang more forward than designed, which in turn causes the ball to hit the bottom more and more, exacerbating the problem. There is no fix for that besides stronger flipper arms. And if they're fatter, then you have to have new supports with bigger holes. I think it could be an ongoing problem.

It does happen. I had this problem once and LTG helped me out with getting the spinner to sit straight up and down again (can't remember what game it was). Most spinners sit relatively vertical. This one has a little angle at the bottom, which actually gives it more of a kick when the ball hits it and makes it spin even more. BUT...the downside is that if you hit it during the spin you can knock the arms out of the 90 degree angle at which they should be exiting the sides of the spinner. I saw it immediately when I removed the spinner. Straightened the arms out and the angle of the spinner when reinstalled was back to the way it was and it works perfectly.

For now.

I actually think they may be a little thicker...but they get the crap knocked out of 'em.

Sign up for the notification from Mezel. You'll get an email when they're back in stock.

Put in a piece of painters tape temporarily if you're worried about it. Looks like ass but gets the job done.

That's right where I stuck my hermit, since it's dark over there and there's not much going on.

Yeah, but it's really small and you can barely make out what it is. You really don't even notice it unless you're right on top of it and looking at it. I considered that it was two great albums, but no other really good place for the hermit since I'm putting the Big Ben in the back corner.

There are NO holes anywhere around there. After much brainstorming about how to route the wire to the back of the playfield (under plastics? along the side rail?), I just decided the easiest option was best: Gorilla tape directly down the side to the underside of the playfield. Luckily, LZ has some of the best clearance on either side of the playfield, and the thin wire fits easily and is protected by the tape. You don't even see it.

I'm pretty sure those come up to stop the ball when the magnet is lit to catch it. That way, even if the ball overshoots the magnet, it'll doink off the posts and back down to the magnet. Check it next time you light the magnet.

Where? Is it archived anywhere?

Bottom should be towards the flippers.

The only problem with reversing the spinner (and it's a minor one, truthfully) is that you won't get as many spins off of it if the bottom is tilted away from you because the force on the spinner won't be as great. Simple physics. It would take you longer to charge the magnet or achieve spins in a tour mode. If that matters to you.

Put me in the camp of reversing the spinner. I finally got tired of bending the wires back into position, so I flipped it. I thought it would limit the spins more by tilting backwards, but I was wrong. It spins like a m****rf****r...and keeps spinning. I'm done taking that thing out, so whoever was the first to try this, I owe you a beer.

I originally would have agreed with you, but after seeing all three in person...well...nope.

Who did you buy your pro from?

I was trying to be gentle.

Need more info on this, because sometimes the game will shoot a ball into play when the ball is locked, and it'll doink off the LED targets, fall into the EM area, and knock both balls forward through the spinner. OR...your time will expire to shoot a left or right eject scoop to lock more balls, and it'll just release the ball to start your multiball. It's the machine's not-so-subtle way of saying F.U.--you suck. (Steve Ritchie would just tell you when playing ACDC...LOL!)

In related news, I suck so bad at this game, I can't hit 3 of the most important shots to save my life. And as I stated before, it's the only game I'm so bad at that ball search was initiated in the middle of my game.

My point is that there's a timer on that magnet. If you don't knock the ball out within a certain time, it releases the ball. That's normal.

Ha! Those were the ones I liked the best because it fit the color scheme and LE theme the best.