Yep. Same issue. I took it out, carefully bent it back to flat (except the small portion that holds it on its rack) , and replaced it. That worked for probably 300 plays but it happened again last night. I followed the same procedure and seems to be working again, not hanging up. I am trying to get a couple of spares because I expect that it will continue to happen and eventually break from the bending back into place.

Thanks for the post!

Yes. I see the same behavior. It is most noticeable when going for the upper lock to change a song after achieving 5 gold records. I would imagine it would be a clear path to the lock but it definitely gets impeded at the diverter and doesn’t make it to the lock. Usually drops into the pops. You have any luck in determining a cause?

Thanks for the tip. I may test that out when it bends out of shape and hangs up again.

Thanks for the info! It’s tricky because I can’t really see into the device without removing it which I don’t want to do. (And being a noob I don’t truly understand how it functions). I’m surprised no one else has seen the behavior. Still pretty playable though. Just makes it a little tougher.

Hello - What an amazing group! I love how supportive you all are of each other. I am honored to tag along for the ride. This is my first owned machine (Pro). Loving it!

I am curious how you have your machines set up for scoring. I played around with mine to start but have reverted to factory default. Is that how you all have been playing? The Pro version comes with Zeppelin Lock, Left Lane Ball Save, & Tour Qualify, all set on Easy, & Beginning of Ball Save set at 2 times. Is that how you all are playing?

Any insights are appreciated.

Thanks for the info. I expect Pinwoofer tomorrow. I also ordered The Cabinet Expression Lights (not standard on Pro, as I am sure you are aware). They are on back order but they say will ship in March, though I wont count on that.

Thanks!

Thanks for the tip! I am checking them out. I really like the look of the Deluxe 5.25 kit but am not sure if it would work with the Pyles from the Pinwoofer kit and if it is simply a matter of removing foam so it can be seen. I plan on playing around with the foam (or whatever it is) when I install the Pinwoofer speakers. Again, thanks for the input. It means a lot that you would take the time.

Definitely need the mounting rings on the Pro because it comes with smaller stock speakers. 4" maybe?

Yep! Mine arrived yesterday, for install tomorrow. Beautiful packaging job, Thanks!!

Very helpful, and timely as I plan to install today. I will dial in based on your settings and go from there. You will have saved me a lot of time and guesswork, not really knowing what I am doing. Thanks!!

Up and running with Pinwoofer and could not be happier with the sound. Huge upgrade from the stock speakers, which were not bad, but....It's like the difference from Imax and standard sound at the movies.

Huge shout out to Dan from Pinwoofer who reached out proactively before I started my install to make sure I was all set, and see if I had any questions. Between the videos and instructions on line I felt like I had already done the install before I even started. Everything was very as described and very straight forward! Great product and company! Thanks to all who recommended them!

I’m thinking of purchasing a Shaker Motor Kit to upgrade my Pro. Is the effect worth it? Should I worry about increased wear and tear on the machine caused by the increased shaking. I appreciate your thoughts.

https://www.pinballlife.com/metal-cabinet-protectors-set-of-4.html

Thoughts on Metal Cabinet Protectors linked above?

Seems like a no brainer based on cost but not loving the idea of screwing them into the cabinet. I was going to purchase some plastic ones but Pinball Life recommends the metal ones for cabinets with decals so the decals don't wrinkle. Do you recommend cabinet protectors? I appreciate your insights! Thanks.

Thanks! You set me straight. I knew this was the place to come for advice.

Well, the inevitable has happened. After repeatedly complaining that my PinWoofer enhanced LZ Pro was too loud and "makes the house feel like trucks were constantly driving by", my wife gave the final ultimatum, it was Pinwoofer or her.......I am going to miss her. She was a good wife.

Very nice, congrats!

It looks like you have the premium but your speakers look like the LE. How did you do that? Very cool.

Perfect, thanks! My next little project...

Nice flipper toppers! Do you mind if I ask where you got them? Thanks.

Thanks! I was actually talking about the stickers on the flippers. Sorry for the confusion.

Who cares what it is ranked? It is unquestionably, undeniably, inarguably, the best game in my collection!

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I am a noob so double check my info but I think the speakers you supply the link to are 4 inch so you would not need the adapter for 5.25 speakers. Double check me though. I got the Pinwoofer set up with the 3 way Polk 5.25 speakers and included amplifier which I think sounds great. I am sure you will be well served either way. Just speaking about my personal experience.

Glad to hear the 5.25 brackets are coming in next week. I'll be placing an order for the combo including them and the Deluxe 5.25" Speaker Light Kit!

At that point I will have the most beautiful LZ Pro on the planet, no, make that the most beautiful in the known universe!

Pinball Life has the Expression Light Systems in stock according to their web site;

https://www.pinballlife.com/led-zeppelin-cabinet-expression-light-system.html

If you do go Pro, add the Stern Factory Authorized Shaker also. Got mine at Little Shop of Games though I am sure available elsewhere;

https://littleshopofgames.com/shop/stern-accessories/stern-factory-authorized-shaker-motor-kit-for-spike-and-spike-2-system-pinball-machine-games-502-5027-01/

I have a Pro with these added and love it!

You are describing my experience on my Pro pretty much right on. I have broken 1 bil once, and have top scores in 600 to 500 range but majority of games in 15-80 mil range with first ball almost always not good. Not complaining (LOVE the game) but it's eerie that we are having the same issue with 1st balls.

One advantage that I think I am unfairly giving myself is awarding extra ball at 150 mil instead of free game. The free game seems senseless on a free play machine. Everything else is factory default except I brought the flipper power down. Am I cheating? What are you all doing? I would really be interested to hear how everyone has theirs set up.

I need to improve my shooting because I have only gotten through 5 songs twice and 3 tours once so I am playing EB to EB just to extend my game. A good game for me is when I get to second Tour Multiball and light the associated EB. That can give me the possibility of nailing 4 songs and associated EB plus the EB I give myself for 150 million points usually around the same time. At that point I can hopefully get Mothership Multiball. That is as far as I have gotten so far.

I’m working on my shots and combos. Gotta find the sweet spot. So far I think it is around 2 scotches or 3 beers.

Any advice on “dialing in” the right orbit shot into the Song Change Kick Out? I am hitting something around the diverter in hard shots. Soft shots make it through smoothly. Thanks in advance for any insights!

Thanks RexPins! I have the same wear pattern and I was thinking the same thing about the ball getting air and catching the gate. That would make sense with the slower shots making it thru smoothly. I am going to try a small bend of the ball guide, inward at the top. I’ll let you know.

Please keep us up to date if you hear anything else out of Stern Support.

Sounds around the same set up I have. Level showing 6.5 on the pitch with front legs all the way in and back legs about 1/2 way.

Pinwoofer Spike-2 kit works for LZ Pro, https://pinwoofer.com/pinwoofer-gt-8in-5-25in-spike-super-kit/

I got the shaker linked below from Little Shop of Games (others carry it) and have had great performance.

https://littleshopofgames.com/shop/stern-accessories/stern-factory-authorized-shaker-motor-kit-for-spike-and-spike-2-system-pinball-machine-games-502-5027-01/

LZ PLAYER TIPS:

Anyone master the partial right flipper press to activate only the lower right flipper. I can do it just standing around but during live play I have had no success. I am wondering if anyone else can do it regularly. It would be handy for extreme backhands up the right orbit. Every once in a while I hit a live ball right into the upper flipper that would go up the orbit if I could do it. No finesse! (So my wife tells me)

I added Expression Lighting to my Pro and absolutely recommend doing so. Huge addition to the playing experience!

It was not difficult. The trickiest part was proper placement of the decals to line up their graphics with graphics on the light strip but very doable with a little patience. It is recommended that you remove the playfield. Not hard especially if you have one other person to help lift it out of the cabinet (but doable solo).

Here is a link to a video showing how to remove the playfield;

Here is a link to a video walking you through the install process;

Shout out to Speaker Light Kits! I installed the Speaker Light Kit - Type 13 http://www.speakerlightkits.com/Type-13.html & The 5.25" SPIKE 2 Speaker Plate Set sold as a bundle on my Pro. Looks awesome and the instructions were incredibly thorough so even I could install them easily. They look great with the 3-way Pyles I got with my Pinwoofer set up. Easy project, great addition!

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Post 1122 starts a bunch of Zep cards on the following thread:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/custom-apron-cards-printable-versions-only

I think I found the inspiration for Ick on a Stick

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I have noticed the same thing occasionally after Tour MBs since the last code update. Bug? New coded feature? Anyone else notice this?

Thanks for the explanation!

Don’t bash the Pro! I love it. It’s a great game!

I recently added a Polk PSW10 subwoofer to my LZ Pro. I already had the PinWoofer set up with the GT amplifier (highly recommended!) so I reached out to them for advice on the cleanest, most efficient way to incorporate the additional subwoofer into my existing system. Dan PinWoofer quickly responded, recommending the BBU (Bass Boost Unit). Though it cost a little more than alternatives it looked to be the cleanest, most controllable, way to integrate the subwoofer into my system.

Install is simple and the performance is excellent.

Dan has gone above and beyond with the quickest response time in the industry to my noob questions. (Including responding instantly, on a Sunday, to a question that I later realized was already answered in the documentation he had previously provided me with). I can’t say enough positive things about Dan, Pinwoofer, and their products. From the moment I ordered the BBU, through quick shipment, good packaging, installation assistance and guidance, settings advice, and finally, outstanding performance, this is a great way to improve the sound on your Pin! I highly recommend it!

https://pinwoofer.com/pinwoofer-jjp-bass-boost-unit/

Add me to the club. Just added them in over the weekend and really adds to the overall look of the playfield! Also, high quality, well packaged, and speedy delivery! Thanks @InscribedSolutions !

3rd and final product pitch of the day for me;

Just added in the Stern Insider Connect. I did not like the intrusive design of the apron display on the unit provided by Stern so I opted for Gotfrogs METAL STERN INSIDER CONNECTED QR CODE READER COIN DOOR MOUNT.

Quick delivery and great packaging. Simple install and an elegant alternative to a less obtrusive QR reader on the machine.

Thanks GOTFROGS!

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1295-gotfrogs/05778-metal-stern-insider-connected-qr-code-reader-coin-door-mount

Very interested to see how this turns out. Good luck!

I requested a replacement from Stern through my distributor and they sent me a new one at no cost. Granted, this was over a year ago before supply chain issues were prominent so I can’t attest to how long it will take to receive the replacement.

I have not seen this one before. Looks like an easy fix with some superglue to reconnect the body with the hair and wings. I guess he flew too close to the sun.....

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