If the plastic glass guides under the side rails are installed a little off kilter, the glass will be tight.

Until it spins?

Sadly you missed at least a few. GB right ramp, Star Wars fork ramp and hyperloop, Stranger Things lock mech and demogorgon adjustment all come to mind. The Premium/LE features are often the problem area for Sterns, which otherwise are very reliable in my experience. I wish they would put more time in on testing and bullet-proofing these mechs/design features.

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The bottom of spinners tip forward because the playfield is sloped and the spinner is held vertical by gravity.

I agree. I always set them to “off” on newer machines, and even unplug them on 80s and 90s games.

Anyone airballing off the center ramp into the plastic panel (hitting Bonham in the neck)?

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I’m having the shot brick maybe 1 out of 5 shots or so. And I’m at 7.1. I think it’s hitting the clear plastic as well.

I’m enjoying my Premium! Shoots great!

Congrats, and welcome!

Do you guys think that maybe the pro version is a bit easier? The elctric magic mech is cool but it can interupt flow when making good progress on songs. Also, hitting the dead-end target from the upper flipper is easier (but not as satisfying) than hitting the ramp clean.

Anyone feel like the EM mech is over-used? I mean once, maybe twice a game would be good I suppose but 4, 5, 6 times in the same game is too many imo.

Ha! I have mine on hard as well but it seems to come up just as much. Maybe they'll dial it back a bit in code updates. Seems to come up every time I'm in a good song combo groove.

Well different f’n people work on f’n mechs than on the f’n code.

Cool! I've felt all along that Ic on a stick should have been the "object" instead, and have it spin when hit (via a motor) instead of jump. And then of course we need "Achilles Last Stand" in the playlist. Just 4 or 5 more tunes would be great.

Crossover ramp starts super modes and extends playfield x mode (if you're in it).

It's over-used a bit imo, at factory settings. Even moving them to "hard" for the EM makes it come up too much (again imo). It's a cool mech but it blocks some of the shots so it can mess with your song shot-making rhythm. It does lead to a multiball, and the song mode you're in continues so that's helpful, but the mech is up during the multiball too. Scoring seems a bit light. I'd rather see it used a lot less (1 or 2 times per game max) and have the 2nd run through of it have different rules than the 1st.

Sorry but that plunger is hideous

Love the game, hate the shooter (but I’m not a mods guy anyway). Some of you guys will buy anything

Didn’t want to roll it

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The way it's coded now, the EM Mech is not advantageous. I curse it when it pops up because it really gives some bad SDTM feeds and blocks shots. Scores would be way higher without it. Hopefully Stern can find the right balance with it because the mech itself, when working properly, is pretty cool.

They didn't design the game for free side ramps for each plunge, but it's your game, set it up how you like it. Your scores will be higher though. Auto-plunges on multiball will hit the side ramp, extending the playfield x (which you would have started right before multiball, right?), keep draining while MB ball save is on and you'll keep pumping up the playfield x time, plus starting all the super modes.

Feels spot-on to me. All ramps can be made cross-playfield or backhand. No crazy airballs. They will feel strong if you've just played a JJP game, that's for sure.

Latest update is great! Way to go team Stern! Good improvements on the Electric Magic rules, and the faster speed of its motor. EM Frenzy super jackpots are awesome! Some cool new lights as well and some song mode changes. Great stuff! Can't wait for even more!

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I have a large collection and think LZ would be fine as an only pin. It shoots really good and the rules are solid already and still evolving. I have a premium and think it looks great in person. Just classic Zep I art.

It's not grainy like the older Sterns, but there isn't a lot of detail to the art. The pictures on here represent it well.

It's on the second time the EM comes up, if you played the multiball on the first EM "mode". I think it's qualified with spins (like the mb), shots are then lit around the playfield. After so many, super jackpot is lit on the center spinner and jacks way up with the consecutive spins, showing the ever-increasing SJP value on the screen, collected when the spinner stops. Awesome! You can collect a couple before going back to the lit shots. Sorry this is a bit vague and maybe partially inaccurate as I'm watching the balls more than the screen/rules! But the SJP is great!

Popped a 100 million SJP on EM frenzy (thank you playfield x).

Yep, EM Frenzy is awesome.

Dude, get a life. Seriously. Fucking cheerleader.

And you still haven't played it yet I suppose!

Well there's no story line. It's very flowy, combo-friendly game. Keep hitting lit shots to collect gold records in whatever song you're playing. After 5 gold records on a song, you can change the song if you'd like or play for more records. 10 is platinum. All of the songs have different shot patterns.

Then there's the main Zeppelin multiball from the left ramp. And there are 4 tour multiballs, getting progressively harder to enable. All of these stack with the song you are playing so you keep progressing on the song during multiballs - helpful for the hard songs like The Song Remains the Same. Throw in the Electric Magic rising spinner modes (multiball and frenzy), 2 mini wizards modes and the main wizard mode and there is plenty going on. AND, the all-important playfield x which has some unique rules (combos when qualifying it add to the value, more Icarus hits raises the value when in it, side ramp extends timer).

The primary theme though is playing through the songs and collecting the songs shots. So pretty straight forward with mostly flow, lots of combos, lots of back-handable shots.

I own both and have them side by side and they are completely different games. I don't care much for how GNR shoots and the plunger lane is a design flaw in my opinion. I say this because, as you know, there are very very long ball saves on all of the song modes. The plunger drops balls into the lower middle playfield, and collisions send many straight to the outlanes only to be re-plunged and continue the flail, hoping you can build the song values (with very mysterious rules about how to do this - yes, hit the lit shots and collect the band members but it's very unbalanced from song to song). Then collect band members again and start another song. Theme integration is great, and the same goes for the lights and art. The rules are a one-trick pony though as they stand now.

As a shooter, LZ is much different (better imo). Snappy flippers of course, and a great playfield layout. Great songs and a good light show too (though not up to GNRs level). The rules are on the simple side and maybe a touch uninspired, but with some unique touches like the playfield x rules, and the qualifying tour mode rules. Still, a lot of fun to shoot and jam to the tunes. I dig it. I have the premium. Oh, and like GNR, it can play a little long.

Lastly, there is a game progression: you try to advance through all the songs, one at a time. Once up to 5 records, you can hit the top scoop and move to another song. So, you try to play for all 10 tunes to get the Top of the Charts mini-wiz mode, which is a lot like Sea of Simulation on TRON where you re-visit each song to collect enough additional records to advance each to platinum.

Well I’m still in the Honeymoon phase with LZ but Iron Maiden is pretty damn good. I’d say IM.

C’mon out to Mars sometime (near Pittsburgh) and play a few games!

Offer stands anytime! Have a good weekend! - Joe

Congrats and enjoy! Be sure to install the latest code before playing the game (to protect the spinner).

I thought ? Multiball was "Celebration Day". Does it just call the mode that but not play the song? Haven't made it there yet....