You know that EM ball capture problem I and others were having? It was because I flipped my spinner, so when the magnet grabbed the ball and spinner, it grabbed the bottom of the spinner, which blocked the opto and caused the machine to never eject the ball for multiball. The problem is when you flip the spinner back the way it was, you get the same problem of the ball hitting the bottom and bending the arms eventually.

Stern has a HUGE spinner upgrade that they'll eventually send me, but for this one, you have to completely remove the carriage and rebuild all the innards: spinner, bracket, etc. I'm guessing they finally figured it out.

I just installed the Pinwoofer kit yesterday. The latest version is downright awesome. The installation is so simple and straightforward. It took less than 20 minutes.

The sound has to be experienced to be believed.

My favorite so far is Electric Magic Frenzy. The sound effects come alive.

Hit up PinWoofer or check out pinwoofer.com.

Weird the developer called it a “bash toy” guess he’s wrong.

Sorry just don’t enjoy having to tell people over to play “please don’t hit the spinner when it’s spinning, I know it’s hard to keep track during multi ball madness but don’t do it!”

I’ve tried to fix it, hangs straight. Only way it works properly is to hard nudge when the em spinner takes it under the table. A hard nudge it works. Still stupid to even have to work that way and I’m not close to the only one having issues as the last 80 pages will show you.

I have also experienced the "forward nudge to get EM MB started" thing. The few times I've encountered that, straightening out the spinner arms has corrected it. Honestly, I'm more disappointed in the Side Ramp shot than the spinner. That shot is just flawed. One game I somehow managed 12. Next best is 8. I actually lowered the EB for Zep shots to 5 to make it a more realistic goal.

Added a guitar. This seemed to be the only spot that wasn't blocking anything important... not sure I am going to keep it there.

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They sent you one?

I've asked and the response was "we're working on a fix with our engineers"

Whatever that may mean

Ok that looks legit since it has an amplifier. I hadn't heard of this before now. They do address every complaint I had about that garbage that was being sold whenI first got into this hobby 7 years ago. "Yeah let's put huge inefficient woofer in place of the full range cabinet speaker and drive it with the 3 watt stock amplifier...awesome!" I still have a box full of "pinball" speakers I extracted from games because they sounded like mud. They are still useful for magnetizing my screw drivers. 400 bucks though? I'd have to hear it. Don't worry though. Being seen entering your house simply isn't worth the risk.

A little help please. The round rubber behind the ZEP drop targets broke on my premium. I believe I have read that it is an odd ring - maybe 1 3/4". Where can I order this ring? Thanks.

It is 1 and 3/4, you can order most places, I’ve ordered from both from Titan and Marco super bands.

And I just ordered three of each of the rubbers from Titan: The one behind the drops, and the one to the left of the ramp. Both break pretty frequently.

Just had an epic game and I'm still shaking my head because I have no idea what the naysayers are talking about with this game...

I thought I read on here that Stern re-designed the EM spinner brackets and were putting them on newer premium games. Is this true?

I have an April build date and I believe I have the original EM spinner. I'll take a picture when I get back home

I found the post that talked about it, the person got sent a populated playfield because theirs was warped and the EM had different brackets. Post #4313.

are these both 1 3/4 rings that come in black or white ?

What do the original ones look like? I have a recent build premium and don’t have any spinner issues.

The one with the ears that bend into the spinner is the one I have and what most others do to. The other one is just a straight piece of metal.

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Mine looks more like your first pic with straight metal. My build date is April 10. Haven't had any issues with the spinner. Guessing I have the updated version.

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Mine looks the same. One good shot into it when it's spinning will bend it and render it unusable.

That is updated. Older spinners have arms that are more at right angles going into the single tab with holes. The new assembly has the angled spinner arms and more solid side brackets.

Well, that's not good. i try not to bash it while it's still spinning.

Dang, that sucks then because the new ones are just as prone to bending.

I've bent mine back twice now.

I'm babying it myself but it's ridiculous to have to explain that as part of the rules to people when they come play (please don't bash the bash toy and I know you have to charge the spinner but let it charge and THEN shoot it. Also watch your multiball you don't shoot it up the middle when it's spinning or it breaks.)

Yea the new one doesn't seem like a good fix whatsoever. With the angle it got bent first game my buddy played as I forgot to tell him to "take it easy on the spinner (this is so dumb by the way anyone that's making this excuse is also pretty dumb)"

I'm glad some people aren't having any issues whatsoever and I wish that were my case because the main feature of my game doesn't work right whatsoever. Out of 150 games I've played maybe 20-25 where I could actually play the game as designed. Kinda shitty for my first NIB but I have faith that either one of the owners will come up with something better on a mod or the designers will fix their stupid ass engineering mistake.

Shame about the mech - think I will go pro as looks like a really good ruleset.

Is code finished more or less?

In contrast, I have had my premium for about 5 weeks now. It’s been played everyday since and I have not had one Electric Magic spinner issue. Knock on wood! I’ve been hitting the hell out of that thing for hundreds of games. Maybe mine is just built like a tank. I feel bad for the folks out there having issues, but not all machines are having issues.

That's good to know. I thought the same but I was also babying it til my buddy came over and got a multiball and bent it vertical. Terrible design.

Does anybody have a video of how to fix the spinner? These photographs do not show you what he means what do you mean by 45°.

Did you see the key posts at the beginning of the thread,they helped me

ThMy guy just came by and that’s what we did. I appreciate your input, Thanks!

Hey, Ive been looking at picking up a pro. Anyone know if the lighting kits are still available? I went on the stern website and it was sold out.

How difficult is Top of the Charts compared to say Number of the Beast, or Encore?

think about getting a premium its worth the extra and already has the 500 dollar lights

I will, I haven't seen much of them popping up used. I will look at those. Do you have a premium? any problems with the spinner?

if the owners who rated their LZ as horrible they must be willing to sell at a greatly reduced price.If they really own the games at all.you can get a nearly new prem or LE and inspect it before purchase.or they are FOS

I have the LE,flipped my spinner no more trouble .

I dont see used in your area right now but thats only on pinside.I do see NIB in Cincinnati shipped for 7699 dont know your budget though.

My Le is fun as heck I challenged my wife and son to play yesterday and we had a blast.Too bad they knocked some of my initials off on high scores as they both kicked my a$$ .Beginners luck.I cant speak to the pro since I have never played 1 but im sure others on this thread can.

Never know. My wife actually wants this title. Im usually a Stern pro all day, but I think this one has to have the lights. I saw one in Florida for a nice price. Just too far to drive - and with shipping it aint worth it anymore.

Pinball Life has the Expression Light Systems in stock according to their web site;

https://www.pinballlife.com/led-zeppelin-cabinet-expression-light-system.html

If you do go Pro, add the Stern Factory Authorized Shaker also. Got mine at Little Shop of Games though I am sure available elsewhere;

https://littleshopofgames.com/shop/stern-accessories/stern-factory-authorized-shaker-motor-kit-for-spike-and-spike-2-system-pinball-machine-games-502-5027-01/

I have a Pro with these added and love it!