I do, and am a huge fan of both games. While I can appreciate the question, the games play much differently. The rules structures differ significantly, in my opinion. The horseshoe loop and fork ramp in SW are a must for completing modes and posting large scores. The side ramp and IcarusX structure provide that challenge for LZ. The Steve Ritchie flow is evident in both games, and there is a similar smooth feel when you get some combos going. Both of these games are keepers for me, and playing one doesn't make me avoid the other.

I have them. Completely different games and layouts. And SW is WAY harder than Zep.

Got my premium set up yesterday also great out of the box, the premium is definitely worth the extra dough.

Did you see my post just a few ahead of yours? Yeah, I have both. IMO they don’t feel similar at all.

I have both and agree. The games feel nothing alike aside from tons of flow and satisfying ramps.

How can I improve my score when my wife and kids are game hoggin

Man The topper adds another level to this game! Tilted the spotlights to the perfect angle and these lights bounce around the room as I play. Total blown away by the game. Exceeded my expectations as a first time buyer.
Sorry Hard to get everything in focus

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Hot Spinner Action! Still loving the crap out of this game.

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Judas Priest dude. I think that’s more than my GC on my game. In my defense I’ve only had it for a week, but I’m pretty sure I’ll never approach this. Well done.

That’s a classic scene...I assume You know the joke behind it.

You'll get much better at it in time. My GC after one week was only 1/6 of what my GC is now. The rules for the songs are very straight forward. The rules for the MB's are fairly nuanced and take time to get better at scoring in the MB's. Add the new Band Boost(I still just call it the boom button) and it takes some getting used to.

http://tiltforums.com/t/led-zeppelin-rulesheet/6878

Can someone explain or confirm the em spinner rule.

You spell led zep by hitting the targets, the mech comes up.
You then hit the spinner to charge it until it can then lock a ball.
It then goes down and you hit either the back eject or the left eject to get it to come back up, hit the locked ball and you start mb.

The question is whether it could come up by hitting anything else or after a period of time it comes up automatically? I thought I saw it come up without hitting an eject, maybe due to time? I also see the shoot again light is flashing before the mb starts so thinking time is a factor to start things.

What is the best way to loosen up the spinner on the Electro Magic playfield? Mine is a little tight and does not always fall back down

It will come back up on its own if you don't hit an eject but it will only be a two ball mb at that point. Also, the jackpots will be minimized because the eject shot is a hurry up. Hitting the eject brings another ball out into the shooter and makes it a 3 ball mb to start with. The rules are pretty nuanced. Check them out in my previous post above yours.

To maximize scoring in EM MB. After you lock one ball in an eject, try to lock another ball in the other eject. Then when it serves another ball out you smack the other ball that is being held in the magnet. All of these phases are on hurry-ups, so the quicker you do them, the higher the payoff. I like to short plunge the third ball to try to avoid it going into the back of the EM. If that happens you lose your chance to lock that 3rd ball. And yes, if you are too slow the MB will begin on it's own.

The rules in EM Frenzy are completely different.

I’m having the same problem. Many times it just gets stuck horizontally and the ball will go right through without registering.

Another problem I’m having (I’m gonna search the thread to see if it’s a known issue and someone has a fix, but figured I’ll post it anyway), on too many occasions now I’ll lock a ball in the EM spinner, the mech will go down into the play field and it won’t give another ball to plunge. It just goes into ball search mode. A few times now it will just keep doing that over and over.

Have had the game for two days now and it’s on 1.02 code. Early issues to sort out.

...I always wondered if they couldn't get the rights for something from Led Zeppelin IV Side 1, or if they intentionally licensed Kasmir to make the guy on the date look like an idiot...

I wonder if these 2 issue are related,Not registering a ball sounds like the opto is not working.The spinner may need a drop of lubricant on each end.worth a try on the spinner.Not sure on the opto.

I know it’s been discussed already, but which lubricant is recommended? And is it the type of thing you’d just pick up at a hardware store?

I used tri flow but wd40 or any oil should be fine.just takes a little

Could be both, but he definitely looked like an idiot...just hilarious.

Ball search when locking into EM is not a code problem, or everyone would be having the issue. It's a spinner issue. See the many many posts about the spinner. Basically, bend the two spinner mounting brackets outward(unless you have the new design). Then straighten out the bent spinner and lube with super lube, tri-flow, or whatever you have.

https://www.pinballlife.com/super-lube-all-purpose-oil.html

Ordered, thank you.

My game was built just two weeks ago, so it’s the new design. I guess the new design isn’t perfect either.

I like Dupont teflon Chain wax. goes on as a liquid and dries as a super slick wax that won't attract dirt. Tends to last a little longer than super lube. NEVER use WD40 for anything pinball related

I like Dupont Teflon Chain wax. It goes on as a liquid and dries as a super slick wax that won't attract dirt. It also tends to last a little longer than super lube. NEVER use WD40 for anything pinball related.

I used the Teflon lube Gel I had laying around that I use on EM games. Just a little on a q-tip...

I flipped my spinner. No problems at all with the spinner...just with the game reading a ball lock.

Arrived today. No notice that it shipped. Fits the colors for LE really well.

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Awesome! Who did you order from?

Game Exchange of Colorado. Same time as the shooter but that showed up awhile ago.

Does anyone else feel like the flipper mechanism on this game is a lot louder than on most other games???

Topper looks cool!!! I just love toppers. I have them on all my 45 games. Lol. Some originally came with the game. Like Whirlwind and Tales from the Crypt to name a few. Enjoy!

Anyone have issues with the ball getting hung up on the rear edge of the black plastic when the EM is raised
Mine looks to sit a little too high above the playfield when the EM is raised, is there an adjustment that can be done?
I have to shake the machine vigorously to jar the ball loose from this position
Otherwise everything else is great

Mine gets hung up on the 2 back support rods occasionally. Not sure what you can do about it- good time to grab another beer.

Pablo from Stern overnighted me two opto boards for the EM spinner when mine went bad. Excellent customer service! This game is such a blast! I find myself playing at much higher volume than any of my other pins and really rocking out! The flow is outstanding!

tri flow works good I should not have said wd40

Just waiting for the LZ topper I ordered months ago. Come on Stern.

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The Congo topper is incredible!!!!