It took me a couple weeks to get used to it when I first put them in....now....I want all my playfields lit up so I can play in the dark without any dark spots I might lose track of the ball

I think if you do not like it from the start you won't get used to it. I like the bright lights so for me it is good. I just installed their kit in my TZ and love it. I have not done the strip lights yet but will in the next few days.

It took about a week to get used to the brightness of STLE. At first I thought I was going to have a seizure but now it is more tolerable while still being pretty bright.

Depends if your a pessimist or an optimist... I see incandescents as too dark.

I have 4 led bulbs in most of my games. Kits are lame you are better off just buying leds as you need them to suit your taste.

I installed the kit in my POTC and love it my wife says it's too bright but she has gotten used to it now. I installed the strips and if I did that again I would follow their suggestion of NOT installing the back one on the plastic glass channel as it does cause reflection off my plastic ramps. It doesn't bother me enough to change it but I can see how it would bother some people. Best advise I can give you is play the hell out of your machine till you get used to it and if you never get used to it well atleast you played alot of pinball

LEDs are a very personal thing. For the most part, I like mine to be dimmer than most people do. I find overly bright inserts to be somewhat annoying. This is why I do custom LED conversions on all my games. Even when I buy a game that already has LEDs, I generally end up swapping out a good percentage of them. Another factor that affects the perceived brightness of inserts is the GI. If your GI is too dim, the inserts can appear overly bright (i.e. WOZ). This is why I am a big advocate of using spotlights to supplement your GI lighting. It's not necessary on all games, but spotlights can make a big difference when they are warranted.

Personally, I find the best way to balance bright inserts is with smokin' stupid ridiculous bright warm white GI.

Few suggestions on this.

1. If you made all the bulbs super brights by popping caps then it may be incredibly bright for ya. In the instructions we mention this and send all frosted for that purpose, but depending on game, how many white inserts there are it can be bright.

2. Putting all the spotlights and LED strips in actually help the insert brightness distraction. It will adjust the contrast ratio basically. Without the lighting extras it can be like watching an old CRT TV on super bright with all the room lights out, it hurts your eyes. So, somewhat of the same idea.

If you did do all supers for the inserts shoot me a PM and we can work on some solutions since that can be really bright for some!

Also, whites are the brightest bulb. So, of course switch out and play around with what works for you, but they will be brighter on the eyes than reds. If there happens to be a clear somewhere on the GI that you can then it will be distractingly bright. I'd sub those for a frosted and feel free to let me know too if that happened with the kit and we can get it updated. Sometimes people are much taller or shorter than us so the bulb can be seen easier and subbing it with a frosted is key.

If you haven't installed the led strips and spotlights, then the inserts are going to seem way too bright. The spotlights and led strips add a lot of ambient light and help reduce the contrast from the inserts. Its extremely important to install the whole kit before judging it.

Very important in TZ. The lower light strip lights the flipper area so you can see the ball and play better.

I finished my TZ tonight with their kit and the strip that goes under the apron, where the balls drain, you can see it in the DMD. I have to remove it. Can't play it with it there.

Unfortunately, nothing can be done on certain games with the decals on dmd panels. I attached some pics i just took of my tz and then afm with no reflection. I am 5'10" so i can see if taller like 6foot plus it would go into the dmd on those games.

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If you pull the front light strip, I would recommend moving one of the slingshot spotlight sets from the top bolt to the bottom bolt to illuminate the area between the flippers better.

Yeah I was about to suggest that. The glare guards stop it. But I stood on my tippy toes and I could see the reflection even with the glare guard in so I see how taller people would still get the glare.

Guard doesn't help. It is right the middle of the dmd for me.

How tall are you?

6 foot 1.

I'm 5'10" and don't play standing tall. I probably become 5'7" or so when playing to get a better angle on the ball and such. Not super crouched or anything. If I stand up as tall as I can it starts to appear on the DMD so I can see being 6'1" having it on the DMD possibly, depending on stance.

James has a good point. Regardless, of Kit, strips, Bulbs, DMD glare protectors...... Ambient lighting, Ones height and angle, and personal sensitivity, dictate so much on how things look.
A universal answer that fits everyone is generally not possible. While you cant change your height, you can work with the pin and ambient lighting. Experimentation is the key, maybe some dimmer switches in the room, so that ambient light is adjusted more then just "on" or "off" Every bulb in a game can have its brightness, by product, adjusted from `
`1-10. Tweaking it for yourself is the Fun!