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Colored LEDs - Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.


By Mad_Dog_Coin_Op

1 year ago



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    #1 1 year ago

    I just looked at a pin today and was blown away by how bad the LEDs looked in it. What is people’s obsession with creating color zones in their games. Now personally, I love LEDs, They use way less juice and have a superior output without heat issues. Used correctly they can really make your pin pop. When misused they can ruin the look of the game. Backglasses, playfields and plastics are created with with different colors and shades for a reason. Turning these areas into all one color with an obnoxious cluster of LEDs just seems worng to me. Does anyone else out there think like me?

    #3 1 year ago

    newbies are the worst with led's! usually they grow out of it!

    #4 1 year ago

    Well the game I looked was bad and he wasn’t a newbie. I think he might be color blind. It is the only thing I can think of that would explain it. I don’t want to call him or his game out because he is a fellow Pinsider.

    #5 1 year ago
    Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:

    I don’t want to call him or his game out because he is a fellow Pinsider.

    Then you should advise him to stay out of the no-rainbow-thread-puke club thread. Lots of folks in there will not be as nice as you in there. There's certain levels of LED madness when you start to go with anything but white - some are not so bad, and some are totally awful. You are right, some can be explained away with the newbie excuse, but some cannot. I can't stand colors behind photographed translites, especially with people in them. Similar to one I saw recently:

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    #6 1 year ago

    In my Waterworld I put a blue LED in the back for some GI and a lighter blue LED in the middle of the play field. Just enough to set a mood, but not to much where the whole machine looks like the top of a police car. Sometimes less is more.

    #7 1 year ago

    For me LEDs in the inserts is a must. The color is so much better. I usually do not put colored ones in the backbox and very rarely do I put them in the GI.
    I think it looks terrible when people will do all four corners of their machine in different colors. It makes the pin look like the Simon memory game.

    #8 1 year ago

    I’ve been saying “just because we can, doesn’t mean we should” to people a lot lately about many things....driverless cars, computer screens on refrigerators, asking a whore about her one night stand 12 years ago with the current president....etc, etc.

    #9 1 year ago
    Quoted from wayout440:

    Then you should advise him to stay out of the no-rainbow-thread-puke club thread. Lots of folks in there will not be as nice as you in there. There's certain levels of LED madness when you start to go with anything but white - some are not so bad, and some are totally awful. You are right, some can be explained away with the newbie excuse, but some cannot. I can't stand colors behind photographed translites, especially with people in them. Similar to one I saw recently:

    My guess here is the flaking allows bright white to bleed through. The purple hides it a little?

    #10 1 year ago

    I thought the “color zones” LED trend died years ago. Ugh.

    Color-match the inserts all you want. Hell, add a color to a clear one if you really want, but if you are using something other than warm or cool white in your GI, you better have a damn good reason.

    Bonus tip — warm white highlights warm colors in the art — oranges, reds, yellows. Cool white GI helps bring out colors on the cool end of the color spectrum (blue, purple). Which one looks better can depend on the artwork of the game (I wouldn’t recommend mixing them though).

    Additionally, warm white makes a game look more “vintage”, while cool white will make a game look more modern. Most people seem to prefer warm white GI, but it’s subjective and situational.

    #11 1 year ago
    Quoted from pezpunk:

    Color-match the inserts all you want. Hell, add a color to a clear one if you really want, but if you are using something other than warm or cool white in your GI, you better have a damn good reason.

    I'm using Sunlight from comet

    #12 1 year ago
    Quoted from 85vett:

    I'm using Sunlight from comet

    Which is a warm white. Good work.

    #13 1 year ago
    Quoted from pezpunk:

    Which is a warm white. Good work.

    Hey Pez!

    2 different Kelvins by approx. 1000 degrees.

    Art

    #14 1 year ago

    Warm white is a general term that includes brand-specific colors such as Comet’s excellent “sunlight” LEDs.

    I would not recommend orange GI, though, which seems to be what some people are trending towards.

    (Ps - actual sunlight is about 5600 Kelvin and would be considered cool white in LED terms)

    #15 1 year ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    My guess here is the flaking allows bright white to bleed through. The purple hides it a little?

    I've never heard of a translite flaking. If you are talking about Hef's suit, there appears to be some kind of damage there....and I don't think color is helping.

    #16 1 year ago

    I don't consider Comet's "sunlight" a warm color. It just feels like a nice medium white to me. Works well for everything.

    #17 1 year ago
    Quoted from wayout440:

    I've never heard of a translite flaking. If you are talking about Hef's suit, there appears to be some kind of damage there....and I don't think color is helping.

    Yes, that's what I was referring to.

    #18 1 year ago

    Hey OP just head up over to the Puke Club and have a beer!

    #19 1 year ago
    Quoted from Allibaster:

    I don't consider Comet's "sunlight" a warm color. It just feels like a nice medium white to me. Works well for everything.

    The sunlight bulb is a nice middle ground. Natural/cool white is a bit too blue, warm white is a bit too yellow.

    I don't have a warm white on hand, but here is sunlight and natural white:
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    #20 1 year ago

    Yawn. Who cares?
    Tired of this subjective matter. Do you criticize the way people dress? The color the paint their walls?
    Change your own games and let people do what they want.

    #21 1 year ago
    Quoted from dudah:

    Change your own games and let people do what they want.

    how is criticizing someone's color choices preventing them from doing what they want?

    #22 1 year ago
    Quoted from dudah:

    Yawn. Who cares?
    Tired of this subjective matter. Do you criticize the way people dress? The color the paint their walls?
    Change your own games and let people do what they want.

    Sure people can do what they want. People will put silly rims on cars, paint they houses unconventional colors, and put big hollow gauges in their ears. The idea is simply to educate about what may be more pleasing to the eyes for the *majority* of hobbyistst.

    There will be those choosing their own paths regardless, and a few might agree that they like it as well. Not everyone was happy with the blue/red GI theme I chose for Pinbot. I didn't invent it, I copied it from others that liked it. Maybe it was an unpopular choice but it was what I enjoyed at the time.

    #23 1 year ago

    This thread should be renamed “Colored LEDs ...” not all LEDs are bad. They minimise electrical requirements and keep things from getting too hot

    #24 1 year ago

    Even shuffle bowlers are not immune to the LED treatment. This was on craigslist recently:
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    There was a color changing LED rope above the bowling pins (you can see the remote for it in the photo), but tasteful LEDs behind the backglass.

    #25 1 year ago
    Quoted from dudah:

    Do you criticize the way people dress?

    Not usually.

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    #27 1 year ago

    I keep waiting for the color bombing of games trend to pass, but it simply won't die. Color matching inserts with LEDs is actually pretty great. It makes the colored inserts look nice and rich. But putting anything but white in GI is really rough. It messes up the look of the artwork, it's more dim than white light, and it just looks plain terrible. If you play your games a lot and are doing more than just mindlessly flipping, I have a hard time understanding why you would color up your GI.

    I have a tough time playing games with wonky colored GI. I've played enough pinball over the years that I'll just avoid machines that that goofiness.

    #28 1 year ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    Not usually.

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