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LEDs - All you wanted to know

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13 years ago


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    #97 10 years ago
    Quoted from Crash:

    I don't know, still quite a bit of flicker in these. They are not designed for slow fading. Pinball Life $0.39 LEDs paired with LED OCD is really the ultimate solution.
    » YouTube video

    I agree with this, but there are actually couple bulb options that eliminate (or drastically reduce) flicker, like Noflix and Ultimate Optix. Basically the type of bulb is a personal choice depending on how bright you want in your insert/GI area. Straying too far from factory spec results in some people (e.g., potential buyers) being turned off

    Brightness Scale:

    1.0x - Incandescent
    1.0x - 1-led
    1.0x - mini SMD
    2.0x - 2-led
    2.5x - super SMD

    There are brighter options as well. Also note that while SMDs are decent as a point source it still has a hot spot, so a clear lens on top of the SMD is supposed to disperse the light an extra 30 degrees.

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    #138 10 years ago
    Quoted from pezpunk:

    i sincerely hope you come across a game with LED OCD in it some day because you will instantly be like "...oh .... now i get it ... man i wish i hadn't shot my mouth off without knowing anything about that product..."

    I agree with this point. People recognize issues with LEDs in the following order: brightness, ghosting, bulb fade, and flicker. Flicker is something that is more noticeable in playfield GI when the ball zips around, but fact is most people don't acknowledge 60hz flicker issues with a television either, so I'm not at all surprised that most people don't notice flickering with LEDs. Thus, without a point of reference most people don't mind a game with LEDs and no OCD board.

    At the most recent Southern Pinball Festival we had 2 SM's with LEDS, one with LED OCD and one without. Most people only had vague knowledge of the OCD board, so when I explained that one game had the OCD and one didn't, everyone immediately acknowledged the visual improvements it made, and their opinions vastly improved of the product... even the EM guys.

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