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(Topic ID: 230867)

LED Conversion Diagrams


By chaskett

1 year ago



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  • 9 posts
  • 6 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 8 months ago by Geteos
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#1 1 year ago

This topic is an attempt to get other people to document their LED conversions or at least share their plans with others, so that we don't all have to start from scratch when we mod our next game.

I've converted 2 games to LEDs so far and decided to document what I did to help the next guy, because when I was trying to inventory how many, what kind, and what color I needed, there was nothing that I could find. I didn't want to spend the money on a kit that I probably wouldn't be happy with either. For these games I looked at a ton of pictures of LED conversions, scoured the Member Club topics for each game (which you can't see unless you make a donation to pinside), freeze framing TNT amusement videos of the games, and basically obsessing over the right colors to pick.

Here's the system I came up with: a back box diagram, playfield diagram taken from the manual, and a schedule of lamps/parts for ordering/budgeting.

My first attempt was Pinb*Bot, then came the Black Knight

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#2 1 year ago

Nice work ....

#3 1 year ago

Thanks! Here are some videos:

PIN*BOT

BLACK KNIGHT

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#4 1 year ago

So now that this has been in service a while, do you feel that the under playfield lights for the inserts are fine if you use non-frosted? I was thinking of adding frosted LED (color) under the PF of my Black Knight. My concern is that due to some fading over time of many of the inserts that a non-frosted may blow out the color? However maybe not especially if using color correct LEDs?

#5 1 year ago

If inserts show scratches, discoloration, mylar issues, plastic color degradation, Frosted color match helps hide them.
Clear, for me, is pretty close to frosted in newer games.

As an insert increases in size, frosted will disperse better, but even larger inserts, do better with 2 headed flexes.

All Only my opinion....

Nice job....

3 months later
#6 1 year ago
Quoted from cshelden:

So now that this has been in service a while, do you feel that the under playfield lights for the inserts are fine if you use non-frosted? I was thinking of adding frosted LED (color) under the PF of my Black Knight. My concern is that due to some fading over time of many of the inserts that a non-frosted may blow out the color? However maybe not especially if using color correct LEDs?

Still looks great. I am wanting to get to the Pinbot this winter and add some more lights once I get my new FreePlay40 ramps installed.

1 week later
#7 11 months ago

Did you have to make adjustments as far as power regulation to accept leds on BK? I’m about to do mine and hoping comet non ghosting slide right in with no issue. This will be my first 80’s game...I typically only deal with 90’s - current SS DMD. Your BL looks incredible btw!

3 months later
#8 8 months ago
Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

Did you have to make adjustments as far as power regulation to accept leds on BK? I’m about to do mine and hoping comet non ghosting slide right in with no issue. This will be my first 80’s game...I typically only deal with 90’s - current SS DMD. Your BL looks incredible btw!

Thanks! No special electrical modifications were needed to any sockets or wiring on either machine. Now if you wanted to add LED flashers to the Pin Bot, then modifications are needed for the flasher boards.

#9 8 months ago

I’m surprised you haven’t got more traction with this thread.

I did a google sheet of my Data East Jurassic Park.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VL6EY2foEy2GG9b4U24Dq6RRhcF-90cNPxoPHR_cUYE/edit?usp=sharing

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